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Jun 18, 2009 1:12 am

I appologize I mispelled farce. My mistake, but I’m glad you took the due diligence to lookup words you do not understand.

Jun 18, 2009 3:52 am

Have to defend the truth at all times. The call happened 48 hrs ago. Your firm made a bad decision hiring a 68 year old. Has him doorknocking around me, and probably figure he will fade away in a few years if he makes it that long.

At least they will keep the picture framer employed with one more office to furnish.
Jun 18, 2009 2:01 pm
JAXSON:

[quote=Alice Cooper] [quote=Spaceman Spiff][quote=Borker Boy]Are you in a strip mall, Spiff?

  I believe technically yes.  However, I the other occupants are dentists, doctors, chiropractors, and insurance agents.  So, is there a Subway, or a tatoo shop in my strip mall, no.  Call it what you will.  [/quote]


Strip mall.
[/quote]   If a kid kicks a Backside Heelflip on his new Ellismate deck in front of your office, you are in a strip mall.[/quote]   Then I'm not in a strip mall, I'm in a professional office complex.  I've never seen a bike in here much less a skateboard.     
Jun 18, 2009 2:33 pm

[quote=footsoldier]With that said, I don’t believe your story.  It’s the truth…I ain’t lying.

  Are you expecting us to believe that a 67 year old made it all the way through several interviews, both on the phone and in person, and didn't ever mention that he only wanted to work part time?  The reason he wanted to work part-time now was a change in his financial situation (I didn't press any further) occurred. Maybe he found out while he was door knocking it wasn't going to be that easy.   Why is he worried about leaving Jones and who owns the assets?  Does he want to pass them on to his kids or grandkids when he dies?  It just doesn't make any sense to me.  And it wouldn't make any sense to one of our recruiters or our interviewers in the field. That during those interviews there wasn't any discussion about knocking on doors, starting from scratch, 60 hour work weeks, etc?  Did he think the practice doorknocking was just for fun?   Maybe he read his contract before he signed it. Any reasonable person would or should have concerns about their exit before they start. That is a prudent and responsible thought process for a true business owner. He claims he likes doorknocking and hard work. Maybe he's a great salesman. I never met the man until he called.   Something about this conversations stinks. What stinks is your firms hiring practices? I just find it outrageous they hired him in the first place.   Spiff...when it sounds so bad, the messenger must be making it up. Unlike you, I don't have time for fictional communication. [/quote]   I still think that something stinks with this situation.  It may not be your story, but it might be the info you're getting fed from the new Jones FA.  Jones doesn't hire part time FAs.  He must have had wax in his ears or blinders on when he was going through the hiring process because they make it very clear that it is hard work to build a business from scratch.  Doorknocking, hours of calling, meetings, appointments, etc don't add up to part time work.       This guy had to have done a great job selling himself to EDJ.  I think in my many years of training new FAs (IRs back then) I had maybe three guys come through my class that were over 60.  I don't remember what happened to them.  I do remember that they struggled with the doorknocking.  Just the physical part of walking like that day after day.  Most of the guys like that were hired to take over an office or do a GKN with the RL or some Seg 5 guy.  They weren't starting new/new.    Contrary to the opening comments about the Jones hiring practices, they actually do a pretty good job.  There are going to be some folks that get through that make you scratch  your head.  But then there will be some that you wonder if they can tie their own shoes, but yet become wonderful advisors. 
Jun 18, 2009 2:35 pm
JAXSON:

[quote=Alice Cooper] [quote=Spaceman Spiff][quote=Borker Boy]Are you in a strip mall, Spiff?



I believe technically yes. However, I the other occupants are dentists, doctors, chiropractors, and insurance agents. So, is there a Subway, or a tatoo shop in my strip mall, no. Call it what you will. [/quote]Strip mall. [/quote]



If a kid kicks a Backside Heelflip on his new Ellismate deck in front of your office, you are in a strip mall.[/quote]



Jaxson -



Backside heelflip? Ellismate Deck? What are you 13? Grow up and come back after you hit puberty.
Jun 18, 2009 9:27 pm

The fact that he doesn’t seem to need the money is what will assure his failure.  One of my close friends at SB was in his mid-60s when he signed on.  He was retired Air Force, AND retired from Honeywell, plenty of money stashed away, and six figures in pension income.  So how motivated is HE to bang on doors and make phone calls?

Not at all.  He stuck around until the salary ran out, now he’s looking to open a restaurant.

Jun 20, 2009 12:54 pm

[quote=Incredible Hulk] [quote=JAXSON] [quote=Alice Cooper] [quote=Spaceman Spiff][quote=Borker Boy]Are you in a strip mall, Spiff?[/quote]

 
I believe technically yes.  However, I the other occupants are dentists, doctors, chiropractors, and insurance agents.  So, is there a Subway, or a tatoo shop in my strip mall, no.  Call it what you will.  [/quote]Strip mall. [/quote]
 
If a kid kicks a Backside Heelflip on his new Ellismate deck in front of your office, you are in a strip mall.[/quote]

Jaxson -

Backside heelflip? Ellismate Deck? What are you 13? Grow up and come back after you hit puberty.[/quote]   Numbnuts -   Nope, but the kids outside your office are.   At what age am i supposed to forget evrything growing up? Let me guess, you don't keep up with any childhood passions? Do you have too many bad memories locked away? Someone touch you in your special spot as a youth? Piss off you boring old f***!
Jun 20, 2009 12:58 pm
Spaceman Spiff:

[quote=JAXSON][quote=Alice Cooper] [quote=Spaceman Spiff][quote=Borker Boy]Are you in a strip mall, Spiff?

  I believe technically yes.  However, I the other occupants are dentists, doctors, chiropractors, and insurance agents.  So, is there a Subway, or a tatoo shop in my strip mall, no.  Call it what you will.  [/quote]


Strip mall.
[/quote]   If a kid kicks a Backside Heelflip on his new Ellismate deck in front of your office, you are in a strip mall.[/quote]   Then I'm not in a strip mall, I'm in a professional office complex.  I've never seen a bike in here much less a skateboard.     [/quote]  You would be correct Spiff. I saw an EJ office this weekend that was on the side of a Papa Johns. His office would probably suck. Yours... not so much.
Jun 23, 2009 5:17 pm
JAXSON:

[quote=Incredible Hulk] [quote=JAXSON] [quote=Alice Cooper] [quote=Spaceman Spiff][quote=Borker Boy]Are you in a strip mall, Spiff?



I believe technically yes. However, I the other occupants are dentists, doctors, chiropractors, and insurance agents. So, is there a Subway, or a tatoo shop in my strip mall, no. Call it what you will. [/quote]Strip mall. [/quote]



If a kid kicks a Backside Heelflip on his new Ellismate deck in front of your office, you are in a strip mall.[/quote] Jaxson - Backside heelflip? Ellismate Deck? What are you 13? Grow up and come back after you hit puberty.[/quote]



Numbnuts -



Nope, but the kids outside your office are.



At what age am i supposed to forget evrything growing up? Let me guess, you don’t keep up with any childhood passions? Do you have too many bad memories locked away? Someone touch you in your special spot as a youth? Piss off you boring old f***![/quote]



No, I think you should display your passion for skateboarding proudly. In fact, I’d suggest making it your primary means of transportation. Go to your clients house on it, assuming you have them. I’d also display your Ellismate Deck proudly behind you on your desk. I think it would really help you lock up the under 18 demographic in your area. Don’t forget to put on your Van’s shoes and pull your pants 6 inches below your waist for the full effect. Some people outside the industry looking in would actually consider you my peer. That’s the most depressing part of this.
Jun 23, 2009 6:25 pm

Hulk - I think it’s interesting that you know what skateboarders wear, but are critical of them. I believe JAX was making the point that some EJ offices are in areas where kids skateboard, NOT that he skateboards around them, or cannot separate his personal life from his business life.



I play Halo, do you think that I actually have controllers hooked up the TV in my office? My guess is, most people can be professional without giving up the things they do for fun.



The most depressing part is that EJ has done such a good job marketing itself, that people think the pimply-faced kid up the street is my peer.

Jun 23, 2009 7:16 pm
Moraen:

Hulk - I think it’s interesting that you know what skateboarders wear, but are critical of them. I believe JAX was making the point that some EJ offices are in areas where kids skateboard, NOT that he skateboards around them, or cannot separate his personal life from his business life.

I play Halo, do you think that I actually have controllers hooked up the TV in my office? My guess is, most people can be professional without giving up the things they do for fun.

The most depressing part is that EJ has done such a good job marketing itself, that people think the pimply-faced kid up the street is my peer.

  What's wrong with that?
Jun 23, 2009 9:04 pm
Spaceman Spiff:

[quote=Moraen]Hulk - I think it’s interesting that you know what skateboarders wear, but are critical of them. I believe JAX was making the point that some EJ offices are in areas where kids skateboard, NOT that he skateboards around them, or cannot separate his personal life from his business life. I play Halo, do you think that I actually have controllers hooked up the TV in my office? My guess is, most people can be professional without giving up the things they do for fun. The most depressing part is that EJ has done such a good job marketing itself, that people think the pimply-faced kid up the street is my peer.









What’s wrong with that?[/quote]



Spiff, nothing as long as you unhook them before the clients walk in



Jun 23, 2009 10:16 pm

True. Just got to put them in your drawer.



Speaking of… What do you have going on right now ice?

Jun 24, 2009 7:04 pm

Where do I put the wireless guitar for Guitar Hero? 

 
Jun 25, 2009 2:57 am

Door knocking practice starts at 10am. Meet me in front of the Super Cuts.

Jun 25, 2009 3:51 am

[quote=Behavioral_FA]

Door knocking practice starts at 10am. Meet me in front of the Super Cuts.

[/quote]  
Jun 25, 2009 3:52 am

[quote=Spaceman Spiff]Where do I put the wireless guitar for Guitar Hero? 

 [/quote]   You and my father-in-law.  Prefer Rock Band.  The cool thing about the guitar is that you CAN actually hang that up in your office -   I think that's what Wind does (sorry buddy, couldn't resist).