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Jan 9, 2007 5:51 pm

Apple.........WOW, they just leapt 5 years ahead of the competition. Glad I

have that one in my IRA.



http://www.apple.com/iphone/



Jan 9, 2007 6:09 pm

from SeekingAlpha.com



Losers:



Motorola (MOT): Company is struggling amid low-margin phone devices.

The Q's success is questionable. I'm already looking at my Q like its an

Edsel.



LG, Samsung et al: These phone makers have made a big push by

bundling in music with phones. Apple is going to use its iPod/iTunes

juggernaut to raise big problems for other phone makers. Picture an MP3

player market scenario.



Windows Mobile OS: Microsoft's Windows Mobile is serviceable, but it's

less elegant than what Research in Motion or Palm can offer.

Nevertheless, Windows Mobile has made a lot of inroads, but now it'll

have a version of OS X to battle.



Sprint (S): The company is already struggling and now it faces Verizon

Wireless and Cingular, which will have Apple's marketing heft riding

shotgun. Don't be surprised if a "for sale" sign goes up on Sprint soon.



iPod: Huh? Don't be surprised if at least some iPod sales get cannibalized

by the iPhone. After all, the iPhone is basically a bundle of phone meets

iPod.



Research in Motion (RIMM): A week ago, RIM's Pearl, also sold by Cingular,

was going to be the must have phone of 2007. That title didn't last long

and now it has to compete for shelf space at Cingular.



Palm (PALM): Company can't hit its numbers or its product timelines. Now

Palm is stalled out on the tracks looking at RIM in one direction and Apple

in the other. Time to go private?

Jan 9, 2007 7:38 pm
skeedaddy2:

Apple.........WOW, they just leapt 5 years ahead of the competition.


I suppose if you want an Ipod integrated into your Berry/Treo, fine. Beyond that, what's special?

Jan 9, 2007 8:26 pm

(How was your holiday trip? We ended up in NYC for New Years Eve, it was

great.)



It's really better that you watch Steve Jobs' keynote presentation to see

the demo. But I will summarize:



It's the fact that the device is a mic and a screen, largest of any on the

market BTW.



It comes with 8 megs of memory: forget about those 1 meg SD micro

cards.



The secret sauce is that it is software driven and everytime you sync, you

will be automatically updated.



Patented new user interface: you only need your finger to navigate all of

the applications.



Random access voicemail: you don't have to listen to three or four

meaningless voice msgs. to listen to the one you want.



The internet is in your pocket: Experience true html... no more watered-

down WAP browsing including Google maps.



It's compatible with a Windows PC but runs on Mac OSX.



Apple stock at new high, the others got clobbered.

Jan 9, 2007 8:59 pm

How was your holiday trip? We ended up in NYC for New Years Eve, it was great.)


Had a great time, thanks. NYC had to be great with the nice weather and all..




It's really better that you watch Steve Jobs' keynote presentation to see
the demo.


I'll do that.


But I will summarize:

It's the fact that the device is a mic and a screen, largest of any on the
market BTW.


I thought the size was a drawback. I'll have to look closer.




It comes with 8 megs of memory: forget about those 1 meg SD micro
cards.


W/O an MP3/Itunes player I doubt I'll use the meory in my Treo...

The secret sauce is that it is software driven and everytime you sync, you
will be automatically updated.


Sounds good.

Patented new user interface: you only need your finger to navigate all of
the applications.


Uh, that's all I use now. Should I have been using my feet? 

Random access voicemail: you don't have to listen to three or four
meaningless voice msgs. to listen to the one you want.


I suppose there's a way to let me know which one I want?




The internet is in your pocket: Experience true html... no more watered-
down WAP browsing including Google maps.


Again, sounds good. I  might use it more.




It's compatible with a Windows PC but runs on Mac OSX.


So long as I can use MS office....

Apple stock at new high, the others got clobbered.



I have no doubt it's good for Apple, I was selfishly thinking of why I'd want it.  

Jan 9, 2007 9:27 pm

My Fusic is already an MP3 player (not the best one I've had, but one none the less) the micro sd holds a GIG (there are 2 Gig Micros in Japan, or at least there are supposed to be).


For myself, I don't see the Iparadigm, I would much rather pay a monthly fee for unlimited downloads rental (but the phone can't take them, far as I have been able to discern) than paying $.99 per song for ownership. This is why I prefer Rhapsody.


I know people love the idea, but it makes zero sense to me. Meanwhile, Sprint is supposedly testing/offering a technology that will give your home modem a 250mile radius. With that I would be able to access my Rhapsody playlists, Pandora's box, my own website with all my vinyl, tape and cd's loaded at it. Why would I bother paying extrafor music etc again again again?


I don't believe in the satellite radio concept either.


The winner in this will be the company that comes up with a new power solution (something different from these batteries that will get eate up by this mobile gadgetry.


Mr. A

Jan 9, 2007 9:29 pm

"With that I would be able to access my Rhapsody playlists, Pandora's box, my own website with all my vinyl, tape and cd's loaded at it." in my car!


Mr. A

Jan 9, 2007 10:09 pm

I'm not an early-adopter, but you can't help be in awe how Apple can

deliver such a different experience in consumer electronics. They set the

bar very high and have left many companies in the dust.



I chuckled when MSFT unveiled the new IE explorer with tabbed browsing.

I've been using that for 3+ yrs with Safari. Then, they come out with the

Zune, 6 years after the iPod. BTW, I've never had to do a reset on my iPod.



Coming soon....Vista. Well, Vista only works with PCs that cost over

$2000. If you compare a $2000 PC with a $2000 Mac, it won't be a

difficult choice, especially when the MAC can run both OSX and Windows

programs.



As an aside, we have had to return my kids Xbox 360 twice in less than a

year. Once because the Bluetooth wireless remotes stopped syncing and

now because it overheated and quit. They only play it on weekends,

house rules.

Jan 9, 2007 10:18 pm
mranonymous2u:

My Fusic is already an MP3 player

For myself, I don't see the Iparadigm, I would much rather pay a monthly

fee for unlimited downloads rental (but the phone can't take them, far as I

have been able to discern) than paying $.99 per song for ownership. This is

why I prefer Rhapsody.

Mr. A





Different strokes for different folks. I prefer to own my music and rent my

movies. I don't carry my music around. Instead, I love being able to sit down

in front of my entertainment center and have 2000 songs at a push of my

remote control...no more CD carousels.

Jan 10, 2007 4:42 am

I thought the Iphone was neat but for the price it's probably going to come out at I think I'll take a look at one of the other phones as my next cell. I was looking at the Cingular 8125 and it has ABSOLUTELY everything I need (ok..want).  I like the PDA functionality along with the ability to create, edit, and print Excel and Word documents as well as use the bluetooth to make wireless presentations with powerpoint.  The biggest bonus is that it has built in WiFi so I don't have to get a seperate data plan for surfing the web.

Jan 10, 2007 7:35 am

"Instead, I love being able to sit down in front of my entertainment center and have 2000 songs at a push of my remote control...no more CD carousels."


Yes different strokes. I love sitting down in front of my entertainment center and having 3,000,000 songs at the push of a keypad... Oh yeah, I have that same 3,000,000 in my office, and where ever I take my laptop.


Pandora is an interesting free music system http://www.pandora.com/  (free registration required,but it's worth it) that streams music along the lines of the music you already like.


I also will say that the sd Micro was exciting to me when I bought my daughter the Sansa mp3 player last June. Then when they had one in my phone and I found the 1 gig version (I ran out and bought more Sandisk, which was not the greatest buy I've ever made, nor the worst but ....ok) I was blown away.


Mr.A

Mar 5, 2007 8:29 pm

Palm Inc., maker of the Treo smart phone, is working with investment

bankers to explore its strategic options. The Sunnyvale, Calif., company is

working with Morgan Stanley to evaluate options ranging from a sale, an

investment by private equity or a purchase of its own, people familiar with

the matter say.

Mar 15, 2007 1:21 pm

I went from the treo 600 to the 650.


Then I switched from a ppc6600 to 6700. WM5 BLOWS AWAY PALM, so bad it makes me wonder how treo is still alive. Oh right their die hard fan base. But look! Even Treo now has a WM5 based phone. So Sad.


Dont even get me started on the iphone. If you do however, I will tear it apart!

Mar 15, 2007 7:01 pm

I bought a MacBook last November, and it's a piece of garbage.