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Jun 29, 2005 7:43 pm

 I have been at MS for almost two years. I did not learn much from the training program at all. Most of it was alot of smoke. However I see that they have since changed the program for new trainees and it seems to be better. In my oppinion it is not the training you receive that will make you succesfull. You either have the desire and drive to make it, or you will simply fail.

Jun 30, 2005 8:59 pm

Put can't read either.   And because he LIES all the time, he thinks everyone else does.

Unless my manager has an emergency, either he or his representative trains me.  It did help to work with my mentor, and my relationship with her will continue throughout my career.  RJ will financially reward my mentor if I succeed.

Get a training outline.  Work hard.  Don't listen to idiots like Put.  Best of luck.

Jun 30, 2005 11:37 pm

[quote=maybeeeeeeee]

Put can’t read either.   And because he LIES all the time, he thinks everyone else does.

Unless my manager has an emergency, either he or his representative trains me.  It did help to work with my mentor, and my relationship with her will continue throughout my career.  RJ will financially reward my mentor if I succeed.

Get a training outline.  Work hard.  Don't listen to idiots like Put.  Best of luck.

[/quote]

Let me see if I have this right.  The girl said that she receives one hour a day of her manager's time, so I challenged that.

Now the girl says that she gets an hour of time from her manager or "his representative"--yet she has the gall to refer to me as a liar.

Again, she has zero experience in the business, has yet to take her exams which she will surely fail, and has all the credibility of a fifteen year old air head who is all caught up in the rush of her first pep rally.

"Give me an R, give me an A, give me a Y........give me a break.
Jul 1, 2005 4:58 pm

Already passed the tests big mouth.

What kind of manager are you?  You spend hours here on this sight.  That is obvious from the number of posts you make.

If you cared about your firm you would be helping your firm by bringing in clients or training the people who do.

What a worthless loser you are.

Jul 1, 2005 5:21 pm

[quote=maybeeeeeeee]

Already passed the tests big mouth.

What kind of manager are you?  You spend hours here on this sight.  That is obvious from the number of posts you make.

If you cared about your firm you would be helping your firm by bringing in clients or training the people who do.

What a worthless loser you are.

[/quote]

Sight is the abilty to see--this is a site, as in job site.  A location, a site like a camp site.  Then there is cite, which is something else.

As for what I do, I work in an office and one of the things that I work with is my computer.  I am contributing to this forum an average of eight times a day--since I am here from roughly 8:45 till right at 6:00 I'm here to correct fools like you less than once an hour.
Jul 1, 2005 7:14 pm

And the majority of your posts are 17 paragraphs long, which probably take you at least 20 minutes to not only conjure up but also to write. Then, not wanting to risk that your ‘superior intellect’ is questioned due to poor grammar and spelling, you probably spend 5 minutes proofreading and spellchecking your posts. Then you spend 10 minutes reviewing your worthless post by injecting it with bull$$$t. All told, you probably spend, on the conservative side, about 30-35 minutes PER POST. Times that by 8 per day, and you are getting alot of work done at your “major NY based wirehouse”… JOKE…

Jul 1, 2005 7:52 pm

[quote=blarmston]And the majority of your posts are 17 paragraphs long,
which probably take you at least 20 minutes to not only conjure up but
also to write. Then, not wanting to risk that your ‘superior
intellect’ is questioned due to poor grammar and spelling, you probably
spend 5 minutes proofreading and spellchecking your posts. Then
you spend 10 minutes reviewing your worthless post by injecting it with
bull$$$t. All told, you probably spend, on the conservative side, about
30-35 minutes PER POST. Times that by 8 per day, and you are
getting alot of work done at your “major NY based wirehouse”…
JOKE…[/quote]



Ah Blarmston, it’s so pathetic to be so jealous.  Why do you feel
like this, because I point you out with mocking disdain?  Well,
demonstrate behavior not worthy of mocking and I would find it
difficult to continue.



As for the fact that I am smart enough to write several paragraphs on
different topics–don’t blame me if my VAST experience provides me lots
of insight into the industry.



Don’t you wish you had done half of what I have done–it would make you
well rounded too.  Good mental health dictates that you should
want to be like me instead of jealous of me.



Finally to the time it takes for me to share.  I am the smartest
man in th world so what flows through my fingertips is rarely
proofread–as evidenced by the occasional mistake.  I suppose I
spend a minute or two on a message.



Tell me something.  In another context you sneer at those of us
who populate the executive suites–we are unnecessary, dead wood, and
so forth.



How does that jibe with declaring that I should be too busy to have the time to share my points of view?



Thanks for caring so much–I understand, there are a great many people who spend way too much time wishing they could be me.

Jul 1, 2005 8:24 pm

"I am the smartest man in th world so what flows through my fingertips is rarely proofread--as evidenced by the occasional mistake."

Funny thing is you believe that... Joke

"In another context you sneer at those of us who populate the executive suites--we are unnecessary, dead wood, and so forth."

Please provide an example of that and I will never post again.. It will give you something to do this weekend..

Jul 1, 2005 8:28 pm

PUT,

If you are so wise and experienced, why do you only post on the rookie & trainee section. I guess you aren't smart enough to be able to add anything in the sections where the more experienced brokers post. Plus, they would be more likely to see through your scam.

I'd be willing to bet a $100,000 that you are not what you say you are. No respectable company would promote an arrogant, narrow-minded fool like you. And if by accident they did, they would quickly rectify the situation.

Anybody can register on these forums and pretend to be anything they want to be. Hell, I could claim to be a billoinaire oil tycoon and you couldn't dispute it. The fact that you try so hard to impress us with all that you claim you are is proof that you lack true self-esteem and self-worth. I think you are a poor, lonely old man that has no friends.

Jul 1, 2005 9:46 pm

[quote=Coag]

PUT,

If you are so wise and experienced, why do you only post on the rookie & trainee section. I guess you aren't smart enough to be able to add anything in the sections where the more experienced brokers post. Plus, they would be more likely to see through your scam.

[/quote]

Why don't they post here?  Could it be that there is not enough time in the day to post everywhere so I"ve chosen to post here?

What is the "scam" that you envision?

[quote=Coag]

I'd be willing to bet a $100,000 that you are not what you say you are. No respectable company would promote an arrogant, narrow-minded fool like you. And if by accident they did, they would quickly rectify the situation.

[/quote]

It would be fun to read what I say that you find to be narrow minded.  As for arrogant--that, of course, is in the eyes of the beholder.  Those who envy me find me arrogant, those who also live enjoyable lives do not.

Tell me, what do you find offensive--that I am living a full life or that I talk about it?

Regarding things I say.  Are you in the camp that believes that freedom of speech only goes "so far" and that when somebody, such as you, gets your feelings hurt that speech went too far.  Do you believe that we should be immune from reading things that we don't agree with?

[quote=Coag]

Anybody can register on these forums and pretend to be anything they want to be. Hell, I could claim to be a billoinaire oil tycoon and you couldn't dispute it. The fact that you try so hard to impress us with all that you claim you are is proof that you lack true self-esteem and self-worth. I think you are a poor, lonely old man that has no friends.

[/quote]

True, but do you find that I am lacking in knowledge about the industry--or is what troubles you my tendency to say things that are not all warm and optimistic?

A number of weeks ago one of you whined that I was hurting their feelings because I was not offering nothing but upbeat, postitive, points of view.

Why do you suppose any adult would whine, ".....you're right, but it hurts my feelings for you to say it."

In the last few days there has been a lot of attention to Bill Cosby as he travels around the country telling the Negroes that they are the cause of their problems.

There are a few of us who are willing to say the tough things--and millions of you nimrods who will gnash your teeth in angst and whine, "You can't say that!" or "Stop talking about me!" or some other form of self delusion.
Jul 8, 2005 4:29 am

[quote=Coag]

PUT,

If you are so wise and experienced, why do you only post on the rookie & trainee section. I guess you aren't smart enough to be able to add anything in the sections where the more experienced brokers post. Plus, they would be more likely to see through your scam.

I'd be willing to bet a $100,000 that you are not what you say you are. No respectable company would promote an arrogant, narrow-minded fool like you. And if by accident they did, they would quickly rectify the situation.

Anybody can register on these forums and pretend to be anything they want to be. Hell, I could claim to be a billoinaire oil tycoon and you couldn't dispute it. The fact that you try so hard to impress us with all that you claim you are is proof that you lack true self-esteem and self-worth. I think you are a poor, lonely old man that has no friends.

[/quote]

haha another post hating put trader....

Jul 8, 2005 12:29 pm

[quote=Yuppie]

haha another post hating put trader....

[/quote]

Can you imagine what a loser this Yuppie soul must be?

I have spent my life being "hated" by losers and in recent years there have been more and more of them.
Jul 8, 2005 1:33 pm

[quote=FinclPlngPro][quote=Put Trader] [quote=maybeeeeeeee]

Once again babbling from fools.  Here is the training program I received as a new person starting out at RJ.

60 min. everyday in training with branch management on selling skills

60 min everyday with my mentor to go over my studies for exams

2 weeks in Florida mostly product knowledge

2 weeks back at branch for more selling trainig

2 weeks back in Florida for even more training.

This is a complex field and your clients expect you to be an expert.  Every branch at RJ is not the same.  ASK FOR A TRAINING OUTLINE WHEN YOU ARE INTERVIEWING BECAUSE IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR IN YOUR SUCCESS.

Hope that helps and good luck.

[/quote]

There is not a branch manager alive who has an hour a day to devote to training a girl to sell.

Spending an hour with a mentor on exams is a waste of time--mentors know close to nothing about the exams and would barely pass if they had to take it themselves.

Going to St. Pete for two weeks is a good thing--check and see how long Merrill rookies spend in Princeton.  How about SSB--how long do they spend in Hartford.  What about Wachovia--I suspect they're taken to Richmond, but for how long?  How about UBS--time in Weehawken and the city.  How long?

Two weeks is not an extraordinarily long time.

But the biggest joke of these programs is the promise that branch managers and mentors will share "quality time" with rookies--it just doesn't happen.
[/quote]

FYI...Merrill no longer sends new FA's to Princeton...

[/quote]

Since when? You sure about that?

Jul 14, 2005 3:28 pm

[quote=inquisitive]

[quote=BBaruch]

If you have an opinion as to which brokerage
firm(s) are the best ones to start a financial advisor/consultant
career with I would appreciate your input.  I live in San
Francisco and would like to know which firms to approach and or
avoid?  Ideally, I would like to be at a firm where pushing proprietary or insurance products is not the goal. 

(Merrill, Citi/Smith, Morgan, AGE, RJ, Waddell, etc.)  

Who would you like to work for?
[/quote]
Of those you provided, maybe AGE and Morgan

[quote=BBaruch]Who would you not work for? [/quote]
Merrill Lynch

[quote=BBaruch]

Who has the best training program?

I have taken the Series 7/63/66 before and passed, it is not a problem. My seven has merely lapsed so I just need a new sponsor.   

Thanks

[/quote][/quote]


Inquisitive:

Thanks for the straight forward response. I'm between MS, UBS, and AGE.
I was told by MS Branch Manager that there's a penalty for leaving before 3 years to JOIN ANOTHER firm; but not if I just leave the business.

1) Is it true that they dont go after those changing careers?

2) Does AGE or UBS make you sign the same contract?

3) If you were 25 years old, with little experience in sales, and not many contacts with money to invest, which company would you choose, MS, UBS, or AGE?

Thank you in advance.
Jul 14, 2005 4:39 pm

[quote=SaySo]


3) If you were 25 years old, with little experience in sales, and not
many contacts with money to invest, which company would you choose, MS,
UBS, or AGE?



Thank you in advance.

[/quote]



Hear ye, hear ye–this is a learning opportunity.



The answer to that question is "None of the Above."



Sayso, you’re too young to be in this business–you have no credibilty and the entire deal can be boiled down to credibility.



Go sell insurance like Roger or Mojo–the criteria to get a job with
their firms is to apply–and get some experience.  When you’re
about 35 you’ll still have little credibility, but at least you’ll have
some.

Jul 14, 2005 7:48 pm

[quote=Put Trader]
Hear ye, hear ye--this is a learning opportunity.

The answer to that question is "None of the Above."

Sayso, you're too young to be in this business--you have no credibilty and the entire deal can be boiled down to credibility.

Go sell insurance like Roger or Mojo--the criteria to get a job with their firms is to apply--and get some experience.  When you're about 35 you'll still have little credibility, but at least you'll have some.
[/quote]

The lesson learned here is that puttyndacrack could not make it at 25. He's never made it at any age. He is a failed planner, so you can't learn anything from him.

Jul 14, 2005 9:00 pm

[quote=Put Trader]

[quote=SaySo]


3) If you were 25 years old, with little experience in sales, and not
many contacts with money to invest, which company would you choose, MS,
UBS, or AGE?



Thank you in advance.

[/quote]



Hear ye, hear ye–this is a learning opportunity.



The answer to that question is "None of the Above."



Sayso, you’re too young to be in this business–you have no credibilty and the entire deal can be boiled down to credibility.



Go sell insurance like Roger or Mojo–the criteria to get a job with
their firms is to apply–and get some experience.  When you’re
about 35 you’ll still have little credibility, but at least you’ll have
some.

[/quote]



Put, thank you for your opinion. I know I can make it at 25, 35, or 45.



The question really was, at 25, which company provides the best learning opportutinty.



Thanks anyway.

Jul 14, 2005 9:02 pm

[quote=Roger Thornhill]

[quote=Put Trader]
Hear ye, hear ye–this is a learning opportunity.

The answer to that question is "None of the Above."

Sayso, you’re too young to be in this business–you have no credibilty and the entire deal can be boiled down to credibility.

Go
sell insurance like Roger or Mojo–the criteria to get a job with their
firms is to apply–and get some experience.  When you’re about 35
you’ll still have little credibility, but at least you’ll have some.
[/quote]

The lesson learned here is that puttyndacrack could not make it at 25. He's never made it at any age. He is a failed planner, so you can't learn anything from him.

[/quote]

Roger, valuable insight. How would you answer my question? At 25, which company provides a better learning environment: MS, AGE or UBS?

Thanks in advance.
Jul 14, 2005 9:07 pm

[quote=SaySo]



Roger, valuable insight. How would you answer my question? At 25, which

company provides a better learning environment: MS, AGE or UBS?



Thanks in advance.

[/quote]



He works for an insurance company. All he knows about those three

firms is the street where the local branches are in his town.



Without a formal education he would never be invited in for an interview so there is no reason for him to know any more.



Can you tell any of us why you would approach complete strangers–keystrokes on an Internet website–and expect to get advice.



For all you know Roger is a ten year old wasting his summer vacation,

yet you actually ask him where you should go to work. You’re

going to base a lifetime decison on that?

Jul 14, 2005 9:37 pm

"For all you know Roger is a ten year old wasting his summer vacation, yet you actually ask him where you should go to work."

And Put, for you, you are on this internet forum wasting the last few remaining years of your life typing garbage that 96% of this forum mocks you for... I probably suggest this to you every 2 weeks- back away from your computer and get out there and embrace your golden years, you will be dead soon so enjoy it...