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Aug 15, 2009 5:12 am

[quote=utcheachea] [quote=B24] And FYI, that was not intended at all to be a knock against pharma salesmen or military veterans - it is just an observation. 

 

The other thing I will say, is that about 90% of the FA’s in my region came from banking, insurance, or brokerage prior to joining Jones.  I know this because we get a roster at the summer regional meeting, and it lists everyone’s former ocupation.[/quote]



thank you for answering my question without attacking me. these other people are crying like little kids…



i wasnt trying to disrespect jones, some of you people are waaaay to sensitive. i said that jones fa’s dont seem as educated as fa’s from other firms (i have no clue why you got mad, everyone agrees that it’s true.) I’ve never met an FA from a firm that didnt have a degree, neither one of the people I met from Jones went to college. Obviously that hasnt stopped them from doing well, so what are you people getting so upset about?



To the whiny bitches, point out something i said that looked like I was trying to “make Jones look bad”



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The president at the local ML branch didn’t go to college. Btw on EVERY job posting for a FA at ML,MSSB, UBS etc. says “Bachelor degree not required.” Every firm hires guys/women without degrees, as long as they have 5+ years work/sales experience.

Here is an actual MSSB ad from careerbuilder.com

Job Requirements
Bachelor’s Degree and/or a minimum of 5 years related experience (i.e., sales, commercial banking, financial wholesaler) Demonstrated ability to sell Strong work ethic and ability to multitask Competitive and results oriented Demonstrated ability to develop and cultivate relationships Interest in financial markets and investments Excellent problem solving, networking, communication, interpersonal and organizational skills Preferred Experience
Prior sales experience Prior business owner/ entrepreneur Prior professional service career (Legal, Accounting, Education, Military) Other Qualifications Candidates must:
Be authorized to work in the U.S. without restriction as to duration. Pass a Background Check. Pass any applicable pre-employment tests.
Aug 15, 2009 12:10 pm

[quote=utcheachea] [quote=B24] And FYI, that was not intended at all to be a knock against pharma salesmen or military veterans - it is just an observation.



The other thing I will say, is that about 90% of the FA’s in my region came from banking, insurance, or brokerage prior to joining Jones. I know this because we get a roster at the summer regional meeting, and it lists everyone’s former ocupation.[/quote]



thank you for answering my question without attacking me. these other people are crying like little kids…



i wasnt trying to disrespect jones, some of you people are waaaay to sensitive. i said that jones fa’s dont seem as educated as fa’s from other firms (i have no clue why you got mad, everyone agrees that it’s true.) I’ve never met an FA from a firm that didnt have a degree, neither one of the people I met from Jones went to college. Obviously that hasnt stopped them from doing well, so what are you people getting so upset about?



To the whiny bitches, point out something i said that looked like I was trying to “make Jones look bad”



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Who is “everyone” and where does it say that they “agree that it’s true”?



I don’t even work for Jones, and really don’t like them as a company, but to disrespect the people who work there as “less educated” - that’s crap.



Just like anything else, it is the same proportion of people at every firm that either has or doesn’t have a degree. The people who have the ability to do this all share similar qualities. Before you start calling people whiny bitches, it might be a good idea to have three years under your belt. Then you might be able to name call.
Aug 15, 2009 12:33 pm
utcheachea:

To the whiny bitches, point out something i said that looked like I was trying to “make Jones look bad”

    [quote=utcheachea]Their FA's don't seem quite as educated as FA's from other firms[/quote]   Umm, I'm with Moraen also.  I'm not from Jones either, but I'd find it hard to not take offense at a potshot like this from someone who's not even in the industry. 
Aug 15, 2009 9:30 pm
3rdyrp2:

[quote=utcheachea]To the whiny bitches, point out something i said that looked like I was trying to “make Jones look bad”



[quote=utcheachea]Their FA’s don’t seem quite as educated as FA’s from other firms[/quote]





Umm, I’m with Moraen also. I’m not from Jones either, but I’d find it hard to not take offense at a potshot like this from someone who’s not even in the industry. [/quote]



people from jones have cosigned that statement though…its not a potshot, its a stat…big difference



Aug 16, 2009 4:52 am

who are these people? Porkerboy? He’s a scumbag. Stilljones? He should have been aborted at birth.

Aug 16, 2009 11:00 am

Ouch! I wasn’t part of this discussion except for an appropriate marketing comment!

And, I don’t know what it is like in all your hillbilly and red-neck regions; but in mine, I think there were more people with master’s degrees than people with no degree.

Aug 16, 2009 3:11 pm
utcheachea:

[quote=3rdyrp2] [quote=utcheachea]To the whiny bitches, point out something i said that looked like I was trying to “make Jones look bad”

  

 [quote=utcheachea]Their FA’s don’t seem quite as educated as FA’s from other firms[/quote]

 



Umm, I’m with Moraen also.  I’m not from Jones either, but I’d find it hard to not take offense at a potshot like this from someone who’s not even in the industry.  [/quote]



people from jones have cosigned that statement though…its not a potshot, its a stat…big difference



[/quote]
Stat? Citation, please.
Aug 16, 2009 3:53 pm

[quote=SometimesNowhere]

[quote=utcheachea] [quote=3rdyrp2] [quote=utcheachea]To the whiny bitches, point out something i said that looked like I was trying to “make Jones look bad” [/quote]



[quote=utcheachea]Their FA’s don’t seem quite as educated as FA’s from other firms[/quote]





Umm, I’m with Moraen also. I’m not from Jones either, but I’d find it hard to not take offense at a potshot like this from someone who’s not even in the industry. [/quote]



people from jones have cosigned that statement though…its not a potshot, its a stat…big difference



[/quote]Stat? Citation, please. [/quote]



I agree. Other than the regional leader, most people had degrees. I know at least six of us had master’s and two had law degrees.



Cite your source and post the links.
Aug 16, 2009 5:52 pm

It is odd that Borker has not been around. My guess is he’s planning his exit from Jones.

Aug 17, 2009 5:51 am

Stilljones, I’m busting ya. Porkerboy killed himself. He couldn’t look at himself in the mirror anymore. Going out every day and door-knocking for a company and a cause he despised was too much. He didn’t no what he stood for and decided to end it.
…That or he got fired. Either way its for the best.

Aug 17, 2009 2:22 pm

SVM you are just out of college and have absolutely no world experience outside of sucking from your parents teet and you are busting on guys like Still@jones and borkerboy who have at least ventured into the arena and gotten knocked around ? Unreal.

Aug 18, 2009 12:03 am

[quote=Ron 14]SVM you are just out of college and have absolutely no world experience outside of sucking from your parents teet and you are busting on guys like Still@jones and borkerboy who have at least ventured into the arena and gotten knocked around ? Unreal.[/quote]

Your a d***. Borkerboy insulted his firm and his fellow employees every chance he got. To be able to get up every day and do something you despise is spineless. He was a joke.

What does my age have anything to do with this? Maybe I should tell you my height too? Or maybe say that my dad could beat up your dad. What is the the 7th grade?
Are you better then me because your closer to death? I guess if that makes you feel superior, go for it. Or maybe it has to do with the fact that I’m starting at a firm that you were let go from? Who knows.

I bust still@jones for several reasons. One he’s a fellow Joneser, two his posts are hilarious, they really do make my day, and three the irony of his username. It’s all in jest.

As for Borkerboy, from the first day I posted on this board he was a d*** to me. He is spineless and he was “sucking on edward jones teet.” It has nothing to do with “getting knocked around.” Please I have quite a large amount of sales experince for my age. Grow up.

Aug 18, 2009 12:08 am

Borker actually makes me want to kill myself.  Dude is so negative!

I hope he’s been absent because the Prozac has finally kicked in.


Aug 18, 2009 12:09 am

Watch out Volt, his protector, cough Ron69, cough might come and stick up for him.
I guess I’m not acting my age. Sorry Ron. I’ll be more mature next time.



Aug 18, 2009 12:31 am

You guys bashing Borker… would you think you know more than an E-5 in the Army who still had a few years left before he got out? Unlikely. My guess is even at his slackest, he’d make a pair of newbies look like chumps.



I know his posts were getting a little out of control, but he still has a LOT more experience than you two. No offense volt - I know you are working your ass off. I haven’t read too many of your posts svm, but I think you both could learn a little bit from Borker’s attitude, if not him.



His Edward Jones experience could end up being yours.

Aug 18, 2009 1:06 am

I have no comment on his experience, he could be a rock star.  My comment is on his attitude, which SUCKS.

I do know one thing … the moment I start hating where I’m at I’m gone.  You will not see me bitching on this forum about Jones the way he did.  You’ll see me asking lots of questions about going Indy and leaving, contact or no contract.


Aug 18, 2009 2:43 am
svm21:

[quote=Ron 14]SVM you are just out of college and have absolutely no world experience outside of sucking from your parents teet and you are busting on guys like Still@jones and borkerboy who have at least ventured into the arena and gotten knocked around ? Unreal.[/quote]

Your a d***. Borkerboy insulted his firm and his fellow employees every chance he got. To be able to get up every day and do something you despise is spineless. He was a joke.

What does my age have anything to do with this? Maybe I should tell you my height too? Or maybe say that my dad could beat up your dad. What is the the 7th grade?
Are you better then me because your closer to death? I guess if that makes you feel superior, go for it. Or maybe it has to do with the fact that I’m starting at a firm that you were let go from? Who knows.

I bust still@jones for several reasons. One he’s a fellow Joneser, two his posts are hilarious, they really do make my day, and three the irony of his username. It’s all in jest.

As for Borkerboy, from the first day I posted on this board he was a d*** to me. He is spineless and he was “sucking on edward jones teet.” It has nothing to do with “getting knocked around.” Please I have quite a large amount of sales experince for my age. Grow up.

  I didnt even know you were at Jones until you just said it. I have posted my numbers so you can claim I was let go all you want. I actually wish they would have fired me about 3 months in because I would be even further ahead.
Aug 18, 2009 3:41 am

Look, Im sure the guy has/does/will do great things in life. However, if i begin to loath Eddie Jones. I will leave. Simple as that. I will not go on this board and spew hate speech. Alright maybe hate speech is extreme, but my point stands. It’s bullsh*t that he would go out and sell someone on his firm, the ideals, products, approach not to mention himself, only to know inside that he didn’t believe it himself. He wasn’t only cheating the little old lady down the street, he was cheating himself. I’m sorry, but I can’t respect someone that does that. I don’t care what hes done or if he’s a rockstar or not. That means squat to me. He was a fake. A phony. And at a time when our commitment, transparency, and honesty is being tested at all time highs he’s jeopardizing it. I’m glad he’s gone. In addition you would think, well you would hope, that a vet has more integrity then he displayed in every post. I guess not. Go ahead flame me. I don’t mind. I stand by what I said.

Aug 18, 2009 3:47 am

I am with you on that point. I began to loathe Eddie J and I left within 2 months. Full disclosure though, I have spewed some minor hate towards them on this board but not much.

Aug 18, 2009 3:54 am

See Ron the difference is, is that you are no longer at EDJ. You had enough integrity, balls, moxy, whatever you want to call it, to leave. He didn’t. In my book that makes him a loser. It’s one thing to have a realistic view of your firm and take good hearted jabs at it. It’s another thing to hate, and i mean HATE your place of work. Ugh, it makes me sick. I couldn’t look at myself in the mirror if I hated my job as much as he displayed. Ugh. I’m done with this thread.