Hey all...another question
What are the possible negative effects from leaving something off my employment history when talking to a potential employer?
I am not suggesting that I am going to willingly decide to not tell someone where I worked in the past, but quite the contrary. I plan on fully disclosing everything. My issue is that there are some jobs I have held that I honestly can't remember all the details. Like there is one place that I can not for the life of me remember when I worked there (I think I only worked there for a few weeks). There are some when I know I was working somewhere but I can not remember what the place is called. Being in school, I worked some odd jobs for a few weeks that I just can not remember much of anything about them other than the fact that I worked and got paid. I would say its maybe 3 jobs max that are a little fuzzy to me.
Is there a way to check my employment history by looking it up through my social security number?
If they can find it, then I should be able to find it. In case I can not though will this be a problem?
I would just list the places you've recently worked at or that you worked at in the past that were more long term. You might make a note that you worked several temporary odd jobs while in college. That's just my advice, not sure how that would work out but at least you're not making it look like you're hiding anything.
Compliance departments will be able to tell you what to do -- that's a better choice than asking us! I can tell you this came up when one of my associates was getting registered -- since she was also going to school full-time, our compliance department had her just put down full-time student and didn't worry about the odd part-time jobs (as long as it wasn't something industry oriented).
Its a pretty subjective situation it seems to me. I am not willfully failing to make any disclosure, I simply do not have all the information to make an accurate one. These jobs that I am referring to had nothing to do with this industry or anything pertaining to the industry. They were silly little jobs I took in order to secure a few dollars for myself. I am not so much concerned about not disclosing these to my future employer but more so, if I have to disclose them for the U4 then there might be some issues that arise. The last thing I want to do is be terminated because I failed to mention some job I held for 3 weeks. I guess the best course of action is letting them know I held some odd jobs that are of no real consequence while attending school and then compliance can tell me how to handle it from there. When they ask me to fill out a complete work history I will list only the significant jobs and make a note that there were 2 or 3 others but are of little significance.
If someplace really wants to hire me I am sure that fact that I cannot remember a gig I had for 3 weeks, 4 years ago, is going to be a deal breaker. Compliance can take it from there.
Thanks for all the replies!!
After reading the original post several times , much like RRBDLAWYER , I find myself wondering why this is an issue or concern.
No, I am not hiding anything. (if you have read any of my previous posts, you would know my laundry is already out of the bag) Your trying to figure out the psychology behind my post but there is really nothing there than what is written. I have no problem disclosing things but there are a few instances where I can not remember exactly when I worked somewhere as in if I gave a time frame it would have to only be the year and not the month in which it was worked. I am also pretty sure I had a job or two I am not remembering. I remember briefly working at a call center for all of a week and half but quit because it was interfering with my schedule. I don't remember when I worked there or the name of the place. I mean when the time comes it might hit me or it might not.
Maybe it just sounds more serious than it actually is but it shouldn't. I came to ask all of you because I do not feel this issue is serious enough to consult a lawyer or anything like that. RRB made a few statements and from the looks of it, the process I laid out for myself still works (plus some additional tweaks). I will tell the employer that I had a few jobs that are a little fuzzy regarding the details and then when I have to fill out my U4, their compliance department will be able to tell me how to proceed.
I am still curious, is there anyway to check my employment history? This whole post becomes a non-issue if I can check it because then I can give the all details regarding all of my past jobs.
And thanks for all the help and advice!!
Guy...are you serious? I read your other post the other week about the being arrested 4 times and if they could find out that either( I know, I know it wasn't your fault). You're not going to beat the system here. Being a broker isn't like any other job. There's consquences including jail time and serious fines. You may be able to get hired without them finding about your little odd jobs or your mug shots, but if your clients every submit one written complaint, questions your advice, or even curiosity, your firm will do a complete full background check and won't miss a thing. They will even check your credit to make sure you are in a healthy financial position to even be advising for your clients best interests. ( and not your own) One of the guys on my team is a multi-million producer he's like 55, and every time he renews his series 7 he gets red flagged for a time he got caught smoking pot in college. He has to send a written response explaining the situation that happened 30+ years ago( he couldn't start out as a broker either) Why would anyone want to take this risk in you? When they find out these things you have chosen to "leave off" they will come down on you with the full power of the law....... it's not worth it. Get a job selling insurance or even research sales to banks and B/D's. When you have a proven track record ( a year or so) you can roll into the branch and say "Yea I did this and that in college moved around, got into trouble, grew up, matured over the last year, and produced XYZ at this company, what's up.....)
JTX are you serious??? You took this post and ran the complete wrong way with it!!
I asked a simple question...I am not trying to beat the system. Seriously buddy, sloooowwwww dowwwwwnnnnn.
Its not like I am worried because I was running prostitutes into the country and using them as drug mules and beating kids as part of my 3 week job. If I do what you just told me to do, the same problem arises with not remembering the dates and all the details of those few odd jobs. They want 10 years...1 year from now will be the same thing. Plus, I do not think I ever mentioned getting convicted of anything regarding illegal drugs...or even charged or arrested or w/e the f* w/ drugs.
I also never said I was not going to fully disclose everything(work, arrests...dont get me started on that topic again though--it has run its course)...I simply had a question and you neglected to answer it but now I digress.
Anyone else know if there is any way in which to check my work history? Nothing comes up in my credit history when I check that so maybe there is another way?
Well they were W-2 jobs but I just never kept any record of that stuff...some of it goes back to before college so I never thought I would need that stuff again (pay stubs and things like that) I do not think I even filed taxes until I was over 18. It probably is not such a big deal, I was just wondering particularly to how it would relate to my U4 because I am only 22 and that means all of my work history applies (from 14+)
Your position may well be quite valid as to not remembering each " Casual " job. I do point out that legally this position places you and your employer in by legal terms " A Position Of Trust " and you are in an industry that is highly regulated.
If my assumption is correct that you are not an older person , that by definition would mean you had several positions for short periods of time whilst going to school? I would doubt that the employemnt period of two days cutting grass for ABC Gardening would be an issue.
The legal post is quite correct and if you have an issue that may be of concern , I would contact your solictor and ask for a legal opinion.