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Ron, I certainly understand your point, if you can make a SUBSTANTIALLY higher payout at another firm, and your a good producer why not switch? But the problem is, by this theory, every Seg 4 and Seg 5 at Jones should switch firms for the bigger payout. We all know that I'm the furthest thing from a Kool-Aid drinker (OOOOHYEEAAHH) but I think that Seg 4&5 guys have some connection, other than payout, with Jones. They like where they are, they like their region, they like their offices, biz plan, boa...whatever. I understand all of the complaints about Jones, really, I do. I just think that once some people hit Seg 5 they're happy to be where they are.[/quote] I agree and that makes sense. I think time and comfort can add to loyalty and I am fine with that. I am just saying someone as good as he claims he is should have the ability to create his own empire without needing help from Jones.[quote=Ron 14]Volt if he has all of the answers which he does. If he is killing it and is “good at what he does”, which he claims, then he should absolutely leave Jones. He is lighting it up, not EJ. At any point Jones could chop every FA under 5 years and there is nothing either of you could do. They could also cut the payout to 25% and there is nothing either of you could do. Its like the 24 yr old in my old region, straight from college who had a CPA dad and Surgeon Mom. She made Seg 4 in 1 year, just killing it. (Also spoke at every region meeting about what was working for her) Why the hell would she stay at EJ ? I have no clue but she does. With those connections she was going to be successful no matter what. I don’t think Wind is well connected which makes his numbers even more impressive. He should leave immediately.
I know this will probably get me called an idiot or a coward, but this is the one time I agree with Wind. I took a hard look at the Indy route about a month ago. While I would make a little more money in the long run, and would have a bit more control over my expenses (this is a big deal for me, I don’t think I utilize what I pay 62% to get), for all its faults I happen to like the big green Kool-aid machine, at least how it’s mechanized around me.
I know the argument from guys like Morean will be that you can build your own culture, buy your own trips, pay for your own assistant, etc. In that case I would rather be Vice President instead of President. Let someone else make the agenda while I do what I enjoy.
Sometimesnowhere - That is an honest assessment and I respect that. I wasn’t necessarily taking a shot at Jones I was just taking an indirect shot at Wind because he seems to think he has it all covered. With his opinion of himself he doesn’t need any type of firm on his business card because he is the next Ron Carson anyways!!
Yeah, I saw that. I started my post before you posted yours, then posted after. I didn't mean it as a response to you...wasn't trying to pile on.Sometimesnowhere - That is an honest assessment and I respect that. I wasn’t necessarily taking a shot at Jones I was just taking an indirect shot at Wind because he seems to think he has it all covered. With his opinion of himself he doesn’t need any type of firm on his business card because he is the next Ron Carson anyways!!
[quote=SometimesNowhere] I know this will probably get me called an idiot or a coward, but this is the one time I agree with Wind. I took a hard look at the Indy route about a month ago. While I would make a little more money in the long run, and would have a bit more control over my expenses (this is a big deal for me, I don’t think I utilize what I pay 62% to get), for all its faults I happen to like the big green Kool-aid machine, at least how it’s mechanized around me. I know the argument from guys like Morean will be that you can build your own culture, buy your own trips, pay for your own assistant, etc. In that case I would rather be Vice President instead of President. Let someone else make the agenda while I do what I enjoy.
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Sometimes - awesome post. Yes, I think it’s better to be on your own. And my region sucked big time. But it’s not for everybody. There were times (like the first two months waiting for clients to send back the transfer forms) that I thought maybe I made a huge mistake.
All of that doesn’t mean that being at Jones is a bad thing. Or being at a wire. Or being at a bank. To each his own I say. I like what I do now. I just like being in control of the direction of the firm. The only way is Indy.
You mean the only way to go is Windy![quote=SometimesNowhere] I know this will probably get me called an idiot or a coward, but this is the one time I agree with Wind. I took a hard look at the Indy route about a month ago. While I would make a little more money in the long run, and would have a bit more control over my expenses (this is a big deal for me, I don’t think I utilize what I pay 62% to get), for all its faults I happen to like the big green Kool-aid machine, at least how it’s mechanized around me. I know the argument from guys like Morean will be that you can build your own culture, buy your own trips, pay for your own assistant, etc. In that case I would rather be Vice President instead of President. Let someone else make the agenda while I do what I enjoy.
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Sometimes - awesome post. Yes, I think it’s better to be on your own. And my region sucked big time. But it’s not for everybody. There were times (like the first two months waiting for clients to send back the transfer forms) that I thought maybe I made a huge mistake.
All of that doesn’t mean that being at Jones is a bad thing. Or being at a wire. Or being at a bank. To each his own I say. I like what I do now. I just like being in control of the direction of the firm. The only way is Indy.