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Jun 13, 2009 2:37 am

Not sure if Ron was telling the truth or not… but let’s be honest.  Anyone can post numbers :)  I’m sure he had no reason to lie but it’s not like the word of god.

Jun 13, 2009 2:59 am

If I was going to PM numbers and lie I would have made them much better. They were average, nothing great. Basically 65k gross year 1 and 100k year 2. I am sure wirehouse guys are now going to rip me, but they are what they are. All I was saying is that I was not fired from Jones.

Jun 13, 2009 2:35 pm

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Jun 13, 2009 2:57 pm

[quote=voltmoie]Not sure if Ron was telling the truth or not… but let’s be honest.  Anyone can post numbers :)  I’m sure he had no reason to lie but it’s not like the word of god.
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I don’t think anything would be more important to Ronald than leading people on here to believe he’s successful.  It creates a lot of pressure for him and thus leads him to do whatever is necessary to keep up the rouse.

Jun 13, 2009 3:01 pm

[quote=wind3574]Ron, You sound exactly like me when I was trying to defend myself with my numbers. Funny how things work…[/quote]

'cept I more or less believe you’re telling the truth since you don’t really seem to care what people on here think of you as opposed to anything Ronald claims as he desperately seeks acceptance.

Jun 13, 2009 3:21 pm

[quote=BerkshireBull]

[quote=voltmoie]Not sure if Ron was telling the truth or not… but let’s be honest. Anyone can post numbers I’m sure he had no reason to lie but it’s not like the word of god.

[/quote]I don’t think anything would be more important to Ronald than leading people on here to believe he’s successful. It creates a lot of pressure for him and thus leads him to do whatever is necessary to keep up the rouse.[/quote]



What’s a “rouse”?



Jun 13, 2009 3:48 pm

[quote=Moraen] [quote=BerkshireBull]

[quote=voltmoie]Not sure if Ron was telling the truth or not… but let’s be honest. Anyone can post numbers I’m sure he had no reason to lie but it’s not like the word of god.

[/quote]I don’t think anything would be more important to Ronald than leading people on here to believe he’s successful. It creates a lot of pressure for him and thus leads him to do whatever is necessary to keep up the rouse.[/quote]



What’s a “rouse”?



[/quote] Methinks he meant “ruse,” which is an attempt at deception or trickery.

Jun 13, 2009 5:42 pm
BerkshireBull:

[quote=wind3574]Ron, You sound exactly like me when I was trying to defend myself with my numbers. Funny how things work…[/quote]

'cept I more or less believe you’re telling the truth since you don’t really seem to care what people on here think of you as opposed to anything Ronald claims as he desperately seeks acceptance.

  Ummm.....I'll give you a chance to retract that statement...   [quote=wind3574]...I don't have to defend myself...I've already proved my performance to Spiff....everyone knows....if you perform well, the wholesalers come crawlin....and nevermind that I called quite a few just after eval/grad to meet with, so i could get to know them and their funds (and not just preferred funds)...You don't know me dude or what I do.....Morphius...Kindly refer to the post as well and spend your time trying to criticize someone else, who honestly gives a f***......Otherwise, you'll just keep wasting your time....



I think i'll repost a quote I posted awhile back.....

"Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded" [/quote]   [quote=wind3574]Spiff thanks alot. I could really care less what these dudes say about me anymore. I  have no reason to defend myself. I've shown you my numbers so they would shut up and they have tripled since then. I work hard and with the success I have received, have learned alot more than the average joe broker because of the amount of accounts/money/trades I have dealt with.  4 months is not a long time. But when your overly successful and have dealt with wholesalers from many different fund familes, (which by the way, American funds in my region alone has 1 major wholsaler, the internal, and 1 wholsaler for each segment, so all these dumb comments about me saying most are idiotic). I don't know EVERYTHING, but obviously i am doing something right, or I wouldnt be getting attention from Jim Weddle and the GP's at PDP which is where I am right now, considering i haven't posted.   You guys honestly need to grow up. I posted a very what I thought, informative post and again got bashed. I made no grave to lay in. I said a few things, that everyone called me a liar on, I proved them and now its time to shut up about it. Find someone else to spend your days worrying about. Actually, I could use some advertising checks from RR.com for bringing the ratings up.....[/quote]   [quote=wind3574]Maybe it's a southern thing, but people here don't want an advisor that talks over their head, talks analytically, and constantly talks investments. Most of the Clients and Prospects I have, want someone who can get things done with their investments, but most of all CARE ABOUT THEM.  You don't talk about that fishing trip Joe just went on, that he'd been savin all year for, then he could give a sh*t about you. Just the way things are...... It's funny because the only reason I ever start defending myself, is when I get pricks like you who start running your mouth off about me...Some people like to hear the good news..and find it uplifting...I know thats how I operate..I like to hear someones doing great...it makes me motivated......But I' dont really care much anymore...Your at the same place as me Voltmoie.......but are you sittin at $30,000 gross in 3-4 months? $12,000 this month so far? 700% of standard maybe? NO!...low hanging fruit my ass.....I work hard...and I'm not about to mistake hard work for luck..like you.....and thats why you continue your crap with me....Just ignore the posts when I post for people....Maybe other people actually think I give good advice....or not...but there are some that might appreciate the help....So shut up...   If I remember correctly, you were pmming me to call you and give you some pointers...hmmm.....[/quote]   [quote=wind3574]Lets not forget studying for Insurance Exam, since my state takes forever. I don't care anymore what people say about me. Read the whole post. She got attacked for no reason, and I was just explaining it to her thats all.  Funny thing is, It's all true! Any problems with that, I don't care.  I spend a total of about 15-20 minutes throughout the day looking at this forum, although it may be a few different times, that in no way equates to all day. The rest of my day is on a strict schedule unless i am out of town. There is a difference in working hard and working smart..... The smarter you work, the less stress you have and well the more successful you are.   I am not abrasive. Actually a really nice guy. It would be hard to be doing as well as I am and be a jerk...don't ya think? I just come here looking for more positive attitudes. I'm not about to switch names and this and that just to make you guys quit. When you are tired of arguing amongts yourself, you will. I'm just here to share ideas and stuff. Like I said I am not replying to anymore of those hateful posts, so lets keep em that way and use this site for what its for. I might learn alot from you guys and vice versa.[/quote]   [quote=wind3574]I'm getting accounts because I care about the people and talk to them. Regardless of whether or not you beleive me, I don't care. I am just trying to be encouraging and my numbers are 100% correct. I know this market is tough, but if you get out and talk to people, point out where they could be better off...It's not that hard to bring in accounts in a market like this. The hard part is keeping accounts after being in the business for quite some time. It's easy for a nice looking, very personable, small town boy, who graduated from a local Big 12 college to come in and swoop accounts out from under an advisor with $100M book, who hardly calls them and charges them a wrap fee.....   I thank the Jones guys for trying not bash my statements.  Just because you other guys didn't learn the processes before your can sell and you can't bring that in within 2 months , doesn't mean I can't.  I wish I could just post my numbers from Joneslink, to make you look like idiots for arguing in 3 pages, instead of encouraging people who might be having a rough time.[/quote]   [quote=wind3574]This is the kind of negative postings that I am talking about. There are always a bunch of people who take someone elses success and say its bs. You guys don't have to believe me, I am the one who's dealing with it everyday. I am just trying to tell the guy who posted this, that there are success stories out there. Regardless of the negative crap that is posted by most of you non-jones guys who jump firm to firm. Do your little calculations and try and figure out my numbers, I don't care. Bottom line is my can sell was the beginning of the year and I am sitting at $2M in assets. I have grossed $20,000 since then. Just because it's transfered over, doesn't mean you get paid on it. If your such a veteran, you would know that. I just love the  "Its not possible" attitude that is in your posts. Thats EXACTLY how you encourage people to do well.   I don't follow the Jones script. I found that difficult in the beginning, so I just kind of made it my own and it has been really successful for me. Regardless of what you think, facts are thats were I am......Last week I pulled in a $1M account thats not even added to the $2M in assets yet, so my third month alone could very well be a $20,000 gross by itself with all the other things I have working. [/quote]   Lmao!  He cares so little that he'll let you know 30 times that he doesn't care at all.   http://forums.registeredrep.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=8989&KW=&PID=143064#143064
Jun 13, 2009 6:43 pm

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Jun 13, 2009 11:25 pm
wind3574:

Miss a bond sale doing all that or just have THAT much time?

  All I did was cut and paste your last 5 posts.  Took about 30 seconds.  Actually I felt bad dogging you on that, I just had to say something when Berkshire decided to point out that you don't seem to care what people think of you when I made a post about the exact opposite thing a few weeks ago.  My apologies, I know it was a d!ck thing to do, but I went for the cheap laugh. 
Jun 14, 2009 12:48 am

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Jun 14, 2009 12:48 am
BerkshireBull:

[quote=voltmoie]Not sure if Ron was telling the truth or not… but let’s be honest.  Anyone can post numbers :)  I’m sure he had no reason to lie but it’s not like the word of god. [/quote]

I don’t think anything would be more important to Ronald than leading people on here to believe he’s successful.  It creates a lot of pressure for him and thus leads him to do whatever is necessary to keep up the rouse.

  If I was seeking acceptance I would lie about my numbers because 65k/100k over a 2 year period is nothing to brag about. How exactly are those numbers leading people on here to believe I am successful. For one, those numbers fall between below average / average. For two, posting numbers just invites criticism. You guys are dumber than I thought.
Jun 14, 2009 12:49 am
iceco1d:

[quote=maddog][quote=Ron 14]Voltmoie wouldn’t take me up on my offer even after I PM’d him every single month of my EJ commissions for the 26 months I was there so maybe you will. Do you want me to UPS my EJ awards to you ? I know you won’t earn them because you are too busy babbling on this site.

  R,   What was the offer?   Why don't you just go ahead and post your 26 months?  I am interested in seeing them so I can see what the benchmark is.  I was at EDJ to for awhile and have a useless drawer full of shovels, certificates, 'one-two-punchers'.   [/quote]     You know you're lazy when you abbreviate the name "Ron."  [/quote]   Nice post.  I guess being on here less than two years, being in the business for less than two years and trying to keep up your average of almost 5 posts a day - one shouldn't expect quality of post, just a post.
Jun 14, 2009 6:53 pm

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Jun 14, 2009 10:52 pm
wind3574:

[quote=Ron 14] For one, those numbers fall between below average / average.[/quote]

So, in the business 2-3 years and your numbers are below average/average and you are giving me sh*t, telling me i’m worthless at my job only because i’ve been out 6 months now… and i’m at 700% of expectations consistently…hmmmmmm …awkward

  700% of what hurdles? Just curios.
Jun 15, 2009 12:34 am

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Jun 15, 2009 1:03 am

Wind I told you that you don’t have all of the answers 6 months in. You seem to think you have this business pegged. 700% of standard 6 months in is the equivalent of tripping over one big rollover, it means nothing. I myself tripped over a 400k rollover in month 2. I was 500% of standard or something close. It means nothing. It proves nothing.

Jun 15, 2009 2:20 am

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Jun 15, 2009 4:10 am

Windy, when is the book coming out?

Jun 15, 2009 4:12 am

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