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Jul 10, 2005 9:18 pm

[quote=Roger Doger]
Many agricutural professions are dangerous jobs. Every farmer has lost a friend or family member in a job related accident.

I've delivered death claims in the last few years for people crushed to death by round bales, fifth wheel trailers, or from rather innoccuos events like falling off a fence (hitting their head on a brick), or being shot due to hunter error. A few years ago, a dust explosion in a large silo killed several of my clients. That's life to those that feed your sorry arse.
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And, just exactly what does that have to do with the price of eggs in Greece?

Oh wait, you're getting all sensitive--you're wanting the boys and girls who read this to know that you insurance guys are really nice guys because when somebody dies you deliver checks?

Is that it?

Jul 10, 2005 9:47 pm

[quote=Sensitive Roger]

He’ll write me a check for his life insurance (average $24,000), and
he’ll fund him and the wife’s IRA. He’ll pay more in
commissions hedging his production than the typical broker can earn off
of a $1,000,000 account without being accused of churning (you know
what that threshhold is, right?).

[/quote]



Let me see if I have this right.  You have clients who are capable of funding IRA’s for themselves and their wives?



Why it’s hard to believe that anybody is that flush.



As for churning.  It’s not based on how many dollars in
commissions an account generates, nor is it based on the losses
suffered.



It’s based on something known as the turnover ratio and it is
impossible to say how many dollars in commissions a $1 milllion account
will generate.



Isn’t it great that Put Trader is here to keep your BS in check?

Jul 10, 2005 10:00 pm

[quote=Put Trader] What always escapes those who live fantasy lives is things like this.[/quote]

The only fantasy here is that you're actually in the craft of advice.

[quote=Put Trader] We all have an insurance agent.  He or she is not a welcome addition to our social circle, he or she is tolerated as a necessary evil.[/quote]

Most insurance agents would not want to join a club that would accept the likes of you.

[quote=Put Trader] Nothing more and nothing less.[/quote]

In your case, you're always less.

[quote=Put Trader] Tell us Roger, how did you come to sink to being an insurance agent?  I refuse to believe that you walked across a stage somewhere picking up a high school diploma thinking, "Yep, thirty years from now I'll be an insurance agent......"[/quote]

Selling life insurance is a calling, among those of us who know how to sell it, especially those of us who sell a lot (to quantify, a lot is 1,000+ lives per year).

You're not good enough to be a life insurance agent of note.

Go find your crack pipe, boy. Time or your fix.

Jul 10, 2005 10:03 pm

[quote=Put Trader]For what it's worth, Gus and Steve found it necessary to merge the firm with another in order to stay in business.  They did well for themselves, especially Gus, but at the end of the day he's still just an insurance agent.[/quote]

The difference between you and me is I know them personally, and have worked with them on joint cases.

All you know is what you can find on the lobotomy box in front of you, piker.

Go light up, crack boy.

Jul 10, 2005 10:12 pm

[quote=Roger Thornhill]

[quote=Put Trader]For what it’s worth, Gus
and Steve found it necessary to merge the firm with another in order to
stay in business.  They did well for themselves, especially Gus,
but at the end of the day he’s still just an insurance agent.[/quote]

The difference between you and me is I know them personally, and have worked with them on joint cases.

All you know is what you can find on the lobotomy box in front of you, piker.

Go light up, crack boy.

[/quote]

I too have a BBA from SMU.  As I said I am from Texas, I know my way around the state and those who make it go.
Jul 10, 2005 10:17 pm

[quote=Put Trader] I too have a BBA from SMU.  As I said I am from Texas, I know my way around the state and those who make it go.
[/quote]

Do all crack babies go to SMU, too?

Let me guess....South Dallas is where you're from, right?

Jul 11, 2005 1:26 pm

[quote=Put Trader] We all have an insurance agent.  He or she is not a welcome addition to our social circle, he or she is tolerated as a necessary evil.

Nothing more and nothing less.

[/quote]

Just when you think Put doesn't share a single trait with sentient beings…..  <?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

Jul 11, 2005 6:19 pm

[quote=Put Trader]

[quote=Roger Thornhill]

[quote=Put Trader]For what it’s worth, Gus
and Steve found it necessary to merge the firm with another in order to
stay in business.  They did well for themselves, especially Gus,
but at the end of the day he’s still just an insurance agent.[/quote]

The difference between you and me is I know them personally, and have worked with them on joint cases.

All you know is what you can find on the lobotomy box in front of you, piker.

Go light up, crack boy.

[/quote]

I too have a BBA from SMU.  As I said I am from Texas, I know my way around the state and those who make it go.
[/quote]

A BBA from SMU?  Wow.....in most places that's about as good as a GED from the US Mail.....
Jul 11, 2005 7:07 pm

[quote=joedabrkr]


A BBA from SMU?  Wow…in most places that’s about as good as a GED from the US Mail…

[/quote]



Shows how little you know about anything outside of New York.



Years ago I shared a room with a guy from New York at a conference in
Washington DC.  He could not grasp the idea that NBC was not on
Channel 4.  New York is a great place–New Yorkers are, on
balance, dumb as stumps.

Jul 11, 2005 7:57 pm

[quote=Put Trader] Years ago I shared a room with a guy from New York at a conference in Washington DC.  [/quote]

I actually believe this sentence. What else did you two share? Did he give you the "common courtesy" that Gunnery Sergeant Hartman talked about?

Jul 11, 2005 8:13 pm

[quote=Roger Thornhill]

[quote=Put Trader] Years ago I shared a room with a guy from New York at a conference in Washington DC.  [/quote]

I actually believe this sentence. What else did you two share? Did he give you the "common courtesy" that Gunnery Sergeant Hartman talked about?

[/quote]

Tell me Roger,  have you ever been to a conference where they had you sharing rooms with somebody else--for a number of years it was all that ever happened, especially among the younger participants.

If you didn't the only reason would be because you didn't go to any conferences.

Anyway, when you were sharing a room with a fellow participant did you........oh never mind.  Can you grasp the immaturity of your post?
Jul 11, 2005 8:24 pm

[quote=Put Trader] Tell me Roger, have you ever been to a conference where they had you sharing rooms with somebody else--for a number of years it was all that ever happened, especially among the younger participants.If you didn't the only reason would be because you didn't go to any conferences.[/quote]


Ah, the benefits of being the next generation. I never had to slum it like you, crack boy.


It's easy to get your own room. You have to ask for it. You didn't ask, so you didn't get. Or maybe you wanted to sleep next to another boy. Yeah, that must be it.

Jul 11, 2005 8:26 pm

[quote=Put Trader]

[quote=joedabrkr]


A BBA from SMU?  Wow…in most places that’s about as good as a GED from the US Mail…

[/quote]



Shows how little you know about anything outside of New York.



Years ago I shared a room with a guy from New York at a conference in
Washington DC.  He could not grasp the idea that NBC was not on
Channel 4.  New York is a great place–New Yorkers are, on
balance, dumb as stumps.

[/quote]



Sorry to burst your bubble you silly little man, but I actually
graduated from UT-Austin with a BBA.  SMU was where you went when
Daddy had some money and you weren’t smart enough to get into the
business school at UT, or the engineering schools at RICE or A&M…



"Shows how little you know about anything outside of New York…"



No Put…it shows how once again your tendency to resort to ad hominem attacks has backfired…

Jul 11, 2005 8:42 pm

[quote=Roger Thornhill]

[quote=Put Trader] Tell me Roger, have you
ever been to a conference where they had you sharing rooms with
somebody else–for a number of years it was all that ever happened,
especially among the younger participants.If you didn’t the only reason
would be because you didn’t go to any conferences.[/quote]



Ah, the benefits of being the next generation. I never had to slum it like you, crack boy.



It’s easy to get your own room. You have to ask for it. You
didn’t ask, so you didn’t get. Or maybe you wanted to sleep next to
another boy. Yeah, that must be it.

[/quote]



Nonsense.  The only reason you never shared a room at a sales
meeting was because you never went to a sales meeting while still young.



Regardless, are you bright enough to grasp the immaturity of suggesting
that two guys sharing a room at a conference were doing anything other
than sharing a room at a conference?



You and Mojo–you insurance guys–are fixated on immature topics. 
Yours is guys sharing rooms at a conference while Mojo routinely “craps
his pants.”   Some day you’ll be mature enough to leave
bathroom and bodily function humor behind–like normal people do at
about age eight.



But your fixations don’t stop at the roommate issue–your frenzy of
crack this and crack that are truly pathetic.  What happened
Roger, a drug habit got out of control and your life spiraled downward
so far that you have nothing to do but invent a job you wish you had on
a computer message board?




Jul 11, 2005 8:54 pm

[quote=Put Trader]  …while Mojo routinely “craps
his pants.”    


[/quote]



haaaa-haaaa-haaaa-ooops (I’m hee-hawing like a donkey) - thanks for
noticing - btw, pssst… pass me a depends - come-on, you know I’m good
for it.

Jul 11, 2005 8:55 pm

[quote=joedabrkr]



Sorry to burst your bubble you silly little man, but I actually
graduated from UT-Austin with a BBA.  SMU was where you went when
Daddy had some money and you weren’t smart enough to get into the
business school at UT, or the engineering schools at RICE or A&M…



"Shows how little you know about anything outside of New York…"



No Put…it shows how once again your tendency to resort to ad hominem attacks has backfired…

[/quote]



Nah, I ended up at SMU because of a girl–the cutest little thing in the Metroplex.



It was a real crisis because my two best friends from high school went
to College Station.  She and I went down there all the time to see
them and to this day I wish I had a pair of senior boots.



But, alas, love won out and I ended up watching the Corps parade in downtown Dallas instead of marching in it.



As for having parents with money–yes I do, but I was required to earn my own way since I opted to not go to a state school.



Finally, thirty five years later it doesn’t make a damn.  Just
today I was in a frame shop when a cute young thing came in to have her
diploma framed.  The shop wanted $225 to frame it.  I stood
there and watched her as she weighed the pros and cons and decided that
she’d "think about it."



When she left I told the guy he should be ashamed of himself–taking
advantage of the time of year and the pride in having a diploma. 
He responded, "When you spend as much to get one of those as she did,
what’s an extra couple of hundred?"



That’s a form of "Somebody is going to screw them, it might as well be me."



Back to the girl at SMU.  We dated through the years, got engaged
and then I went off to do my duty.  She had a degree in bio
something or other and went to work at MD Anderson where she met a
young doctor.



They got divorced a few years ago–serves her right.

Jul 11, 2005 8:57 pm

[quote=Mojo]

[quote=Put Trader]  …while Mojo routinely “craps
his pants.”    


[/quote]



haaaa-haaaa-haaaa-ooops (I’m hee-hawing like a donkey) - thanks for
noticing - btw, pssst… pass me a depends - come-on, you know I’m good
for it.

[/quote]



Mojo

July 11, 2005

Age 7 years 8 months

Jul 11, 2005 9:11 pm

[quote=Put Trader]  

Mojo

July 11, 2005

Age 7 years 8 months

[/quote]



You crafty old bastard. Seven and two-thirds is also the average age
for a Mensa member and the number of different jobs a resident mensan
has each decade. You mix subtle coloring well.

Jul 11, 2005 11:56 pm

[quote=joedabrkr]Sorry to burst your bubble you silly little man, but I actually graduated from UT-Austin with a BBA. SMU was where you went when Daddy had some money and you weren't smart enough to get into the business school at UT, or the engineering schools at RICE or A&M...[/quote]


That's almost verbatim what my brother in law said. He's an Aggie. The day after Thanksgiving, I root for the Longhorns, though. I can't help it. [quote=joedabrkr]No Put....it shows how once again your tendency to resort to ad hominem attacks has backfired.....[/quote]


Jul 11, 2005 11:59 pm

[quote=Put Trader] Nonsense.  The only reason you never shared a room at a sales meeting was because you never went to a sales meeting while still young.

***Snipped Neurotic Drivel***[/quote]

I was 21 when I went to my first home office school in Mecca. It wasn't my first junket, though. I went on my first junket when I was 19. That was just an internship, though. They wanted me to stay after graduation, so they sent me places. I didn't have to share any rooms, though. Perhaps your firm doesn't care about you as much as all mine have cared about me? *chuckle*

I'm not counting the ones I went to with my family growing up, just the ones I earned for being a Top Gun Producer at every firm I've worked with.