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Oct 20, 2006 12:30 am

Metlife looks like they are recruiting MBA's with sales exp.



UBS has a nice deal for experienced people with MBA's.





Anyone know any other great opportunities to explore.

Oct 20, 2006 12:37 am

Both of the above firms pretty much suck.  Then again, they don't suck as much as World Financial or Ameriprise.  Ultimately it is YOU who determine your successs, not the firm.

And oh yeah, by the way....


Go Cards!!!!!

Oct 20, 2006 1:13 am
joedabrkr:

Both of the above firms pretty much suck.  Then again, they don't suck as much as World Financial or Ameriprise.  Ultimately it is YOU who determine your successs, not the firm.

And oh yeah, by the way....


Go Cards!!!!!


Joe's been in the sauce again...

Oct 20, 2006 1:32 am
Indyone:
joedabrkr:

Both of the above firms pretty much suck.  Then again, they don't suck as much as World Financial or Ameriprise.  Ultimately it is YOU who determine your successs, not the firm.

And oh yeah, by the way....


Go Cards!!!!!


Joe's been in the sauce again...



You had to go there?

Oct 20, 2006 10:31 am

I think much of it depends upon where your MBA is from and what type of sales experience you have.<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />


 


An MBA from the <?:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />University of Phoenix online with used car sales experience does not offer the same opportunities as a Harvard MBA with experience running your own business.


--WM

Oct 20, 2006 11:51 am
WealthManager:

I think much of it depends upon where your MBA is from and what type of sales experience you have.<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />



An MBA from the <?:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />University of Phoenix online with used car sales experience does not offer the same opportunities as a Harvard MBA with experience running your own business.


--WM



Let me write that down, I think I'll get my wife to embroider it onto something I can hang in my office.

Oct 20, 2006 12:52 pm
Devil'sAdvocate:

Let me write that down, I think I'll get my wife to embroider it onto something I can hang in my office.



You’re right, I was stating the obvious.  I guess I should have finished my thought before posting the message.  These types of things happen when you focus more on work than the message board.<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />


 


My opinion is that there are many opportunities for those who have MBAs from schools that stand out and who have backgrounds that stand out. 


 


AirForce, do you fit into this category?  If so then you should be talking to recruiters who deal with the top firms.  If not then maybe a recruiter can help but I would think that the opportunities aren’t all that much greater than someone without an MBA or past sales experience.


 


--WM


Oct 20, 2006 12:58 pm
WealthManager:

I think much of it depends upon where your MBA is from and what type of sales experience you have.<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />



An MBA from the <?:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />University of Phoenix online with used car sales experience does not offer the same opportunities as a Harvard MBA with experience running your own business.


--WM



Exactly right. Both will get into the training program at top tier firms. One year in, the Phoenix used car guy will be at the top of his class for AUM, new accounts, and gross, versus the Harvard business guy, who will be looking for a new career. Two of the three Harvard MBAs I've work with have failed. Wait, I'm wrong! 66% failure rate is a normal loss experience. Hmm, why is it that the Harvard guys don't do any better than the Lincoln tech guys?


Could it be, that beyond buying you a seat in the training program, a high priced education is of little value in our business?


There are many opportunities for MBAs to excel in our business, just know up front that the MBA, regardless of where earned, is useless beyond the hiring process. It might buy some positive reactions from prospects, but in the end it's the work product that counts. Part of that,a large part, is intangible. It's the trust part, the feel good part. It's the old Nick Murray saying part "People don't care how much you know until they know how much you care." Quaint, I know. Also true. Delivering this to the client is, unforunately, not something you can buy at Harvard. 


OK, I believe having an MBA is a very good thing. Just don't put too much weight on it. Point made.


Oct 20, 2006 12:58 pm

GO DETROIT! 4 and out this series!



No Harvard here, but one of the top 1000 schools



I am just someone who reviews all of one's options. Forget it I think I am going to go to IRAQ.

Oct 20, 2006 7:33 pm

Tigers and Cards World Series?


Y-A-W-N, I wonder what's on the Food Channel this weekend?

Oct 23, 2006 9:10 am
AirForce:

Metlife looks like they are recruiting MBA's with sales exp.

UBS has a nice deal for experienced people with MBA's.


Anyone know any other great opportunities to explore.


Make sure that you emphasize having an MBA to evrybody that you talk to.

Oct 23, 2006 9:23 am

The guy (or gal) with the Harvard MBA is most likely going into IB and NOT retail sales.  Comparing a Harvard or other top tier MBA to Phoenix is absolutely ridiculous.

Oct 23, 2006 12:07 pm

To me is is not about where your MBA is from, but how you sell yourself and the MBA, you could have a MBA from Harvard and that does not mean you are a good sells person, you have to have the desire and the drive to be the best.

Oct 23, 2006 12:16 pm

Point taken, CMB, that the degree doesn't guarantee you anything, but let's be realistic about WHO is going to Harvard and who is getting an online MBA.  I think the people who have an MBA from a top tier school are plenty driven.  You have to consider what the career track for a Harvard MBA could be.  How many Harvard alums went into the MBA program with their sights set on being an FA, especially if they are focusing on finance?  I'd guess next to none.    

Oct 23, 2006 9:36 pm

One with an MBA can use that at the end of their title. As for an MBA with minimal experience... This is someone who needs to get out and get some experience before they enter this career. As with any relationship one has to be able to relate to the client. If you have not been around the block and have the social skills you will not obtain the trust and build the relationship.



We all know when we meet someone if they are for real or just trying to sell us something. This is experience and comfort interacting with people from all areas of life.

Oct 24, 2006 12:16 am
AirForce:

One with an MBA can use that at the end of their title. As for an MBA with minimal experience... This is someone who needs to get out and get some experience before they enter this career. As with any relationship one has to be able to relate to the client. If you have not been around the block and have the social skills you will not obtain the trust and build the relationship.



We all know when we meet someone if they are for real or just trying to sell us something. This is experience and comfort interacting with people from all areas of life.



Dude you're doing it again...offering advice when you don't even have any experience in the business....

Then again this advice is pretty sound!

Oct 24, 2006 9:56 am

MBA??  Who cares.  As a fellow MBA - I've found that it's now the new standard of education.  It's what a college degree was 20 years ago.  This 'job' is about the individual.  A friend of mine was (sold his practice) a top producer and never graduated high school.  Now he's retired at the age of 52.


Anyway - go TIGERS!! 

Oct 24, 2006 11:17 am

Joe I can start to talk, things are moving forward.

Oct 30, 2006 5:49 pm
AirForce:

Metlife looks like they are recruiting MBA's with sales exp.


Smutlife recruits anybody who is stupid enough to apply there.

Oct 30, 2006 6:14 pm

As somebody who has spent their entire career watching what all of the firms are doing I will say that MetLife would be a fantastic place to spend a career.


Well known name, very memorable advertising, and enough products to satisfy 98% of the people a salesman is likely to encounter, and one of Wall Street's technology legends at the helm.


Only a fool would not consider MetLife.