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Jul 28, 2007 12:27 am

So I was just in the mall today to get a link put into my watch and ran into my favorite NFL player, our star cornerback.  I had the balls to go up to him and start a conversation as we walked through the mall.  I didn't ask him for an autograph, didn't tell him I managed money, I just looked good in my suit, shook his hand and introduced myself and started talking about training camp, his health, and finally about his charity.  Basically I told him I want to get involved in things I can stand up for.  He gave me the info to contact his mother, who runs the charity, and get involved that way.  I told him, "I bet people come up to all the time to find out how they can help the causes you support, don't they?"  He said, "Actually no, nobody really wants to know how THEY can help."  To which I replied, "Well my name again is Snaggletooth and I would like to help.  Hopefully we'll be in touch.  Nice meeting you."

Who knows if it can get any traction, but I would love to help out.  It's kinda like a shoot for the moon and if you miss you hit the stars deal.  If ever there is a chance to talk to him professionally, it can only come after meeting him and putting in hard work.  If I never get a chance to manage any of his money, but can help on his foundation, maybe I'll get to meet other players.  It is a dream goal, but something for me to try at least.   

And if I miss both the moon and the stars completely, at least I got to talk with the guy whose jersey I wear every game day (I know, not very classy).

Jul 28, 2007 2:11 am

There are no stars between us and the moon. Nice job, though.

Jul 28, 2007 2:13 am

The NFL Players Association has a program to certify Financial Advisors to work with their members. Players, as I understand it, are not obligated to use these Advisors, but they are obviously encouraged to, since they all go thru a screening process. If you can get friendly with this guy, even if you dont get his number, look at the program - that creates a conversation - which might at least lead to referrals to his friends/teammates.

Jul 29, 2007 2:00 am

[quote=Bobby Hull]There are no stars between us and the moon. Nice job, though. [/quote]

 I don't care what anyone says about you, I enjoy your sarcastic remarks.  

Jul 29, 2007 2:14 am

[quote=Bobby Hull]There are no stars between us and the moon. Nice job, though. [/quote]

Boy this IS a TOUGH crowd

How about shoot for the moon end up in the stratosphere. Will that satisfy your astonomical requirement?

Good job Snaggle.

Jul 29, 2007 2:38 am

[quote=gad12]

[quote=Bobby Hull]There are no stars between us and the moon. Nice job, though. [/quote]

 I don't care what anyone says about you, I enjoy your sarcastic remarks.  

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Being me is a lot of fun.

Jul 30, 2007 3:50 pm

Nice work snaggle... Most people wouldnt have the sack to walk up and start a conversation...

Working with people you see on TV on Sunday afternoon's is definately a trip.. A team in our office works with about a dozen football players, and its always good times to have a chat with them in the office the day after they score 3 touchdowns...

Jul 30, 2007 3:56 pm

Most people wouldnt have the sack to walk up and start a conversation...

What's the point from a business standpoint if he's not going to ask for an appointment?

Jul 30, 2007 5:24 pm

[quote=Bobby Hull]There are no stars between us and the moon. Nice job, though. [/quote]

BH, Thanks for the astronomy lesson.

Question: If his shot misses the moon what would happen in the vacuum of space? The projectile would continue moving, affected by gravity, until it hit something. Maybe not a star, but something. It's possible, given that the universe is constantly expanding,  that snag's shot would continue forever. More likely, gravity would limit it to a low earth orbit where his shot is much more likely, if it were to survive re-entry, to hit Cleveland. So, aim for the moon, hit Cleveland.

By the way, nice job snag.

Jul 30, 2007 6:26 pm

[quote=BondGuy]

[quote=Bobby Hull]There are no stars between us and the moon. Nice job, though. [/quote]

BH, Thanks for the astronomy lesson.

Question: If his shot misses the moon what would happen in the vacuum of space? The projectile would continue moving, affected by gravity, until it hit something. Maybe not a star, but something. It's possible, given that the universe is constantly expanding,  that snag's shot would continue forever. More likely, gravity would limit it to a low earth orbit where his shot is much more likely, if it were to survive re-entry, to hit Cleveland. So, aim for the moon, hit Cleveland.

By the way, nice job snag.

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That's a good thought BondGuy, but I would rather miss everything entirely than hit Cleveland.  Anything but Cleveland.

Jul 30, 2007 6:26 pm

Hey, keep setting your goals high.  Good for you.  It is kind of like elephant hunting.  You only need to bag one.  Sounds like you are happy and you are the only one you need to please.

Jul 30, 2007 7:20 pm

[quote=snaggletooth][quote=BondGuy]

[quote=Bobby Hull]There are no stars between us and the moon. Nice job, though. [/quote]

BH, Thanks for the astronomy lesson.

Question: If his shot misses the moon what would happen in the vacuum of space? The projectile would continue moving, affected by gravity, until it hit something. Maybe not a star, but something. It's possible, given that the universe is constantly expanding,  that snag's shot would continue forever. More likely, gravity would limit it to a low earth orbit where his shot is much more likely, if it were to survive re-entry, to hit Cleveland. So, aim for the moon, hit Cleveland.

By the way, nice job snag.

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That's a good thought BondGuy, but I would rather miss everything entirely than hit Cleveland.  Anything but Cleveland.

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Yeah, I know what you mean. Thirty years ago Cleveland was plunged into bankruptcy. They took the road signs down from I-80 and everything. Yet, the city is still there. I think it has something to do with the Drew Carey show. As he says, Cleveland Rocks!  I don't get it.

Back at the mall. You now need to consider how to proceed with NFL mom. As tempting as would be to be down with whatever their charity does, I would say only get involved if you can become a true believer. Mom and the rest of the volunteers are just that.

Since you might want to give of yourself look to volunteer for groups in whose cause you believe. Your genuine contribution will shine through. Fellow volunteers will see this and relate to you on that level. Wall of trust climbed, naturally when they need help or advice who are they gonna call? That would be you.

All charities attract people with dough. Unlike NFL players most of these people have real money and no need to throw it away supporting an entourage or diamond studded 24's for the Escalade. Which brings up another downer of having to deal with sports celebrities. You need to live big. Big car, house, clothes and lifestyle. These guys are into wasting money on a massive scale. Stepping out of the Accord wearing a Men's Warehouse suit just isn't going to cut it with this group. This I know from witnessing a broker in my office court NFL players.

Ironically, for years I did business with a NBA team owner. I did a lot of biz with this guy and my Honda Accords never bothered him.

Still, hat's off for the great approach you used with this player. That's a good lesson for us all. And as BH has correctly pointed out, most of us don't have what it takes to do what you've done.

Good Luck!!!!

Jul 30, 2007 8:05 pm

i know a broker who got a famous nfl gm as a client by cold calling him. the owner of the team was doing a secondary offering on his reit(the brokers firm was underwritting the issue).

the broker called the gm and pitched him on why he should own shares in his boss's company. the broker went on to get some players as clients and was invited to all kind of team events.

so anything is possible

Jul 30, 2007 11:28 pm

Know a guy who has a team exec. as his client and has picked up at least one player.  He picked up the team exec by dripping on him.

Jul 31, 2007 5:29 am

So on an NFL note, who here manages Michael Vick’s money?  If he’s guilty and goes to jail, what happens to his accounts?  I guess if he (more likely his lawyers/advisors) were smart he’d have trusts and annuities or whatever so nobody could touch the money.  Does the state freeze it?  How do you protect your assets when you go to jail for dog fighting? 

Jul 31, 2007 12:24 pm

You guys crack me up…

Jul 31, 2007 4:08 pm

Good thing Vick has all that money out on the street working for him… That little interstate distribution ring he had going on ( the initial reason the Feds started looking at him) will ensure he has some cash and some good White if he ever needs it…

Aug 1, 2007 4:03 pm

Most people would have blown their chances by going right for the appointment (just like everybody else does).

Good job.  You’ve got class.  Let us know how it works out…



Aug 1, 2007 4:50 pm

JCadieux,

Please explain how it is "classy" to get involved with a charity for the purpose of getting a client? 

Aug 2, 2007 8:47 pm

Snaggletooth, OJ's not a good prospect.