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Dec 21, 2006 3:47 pm

Has anyone else bought one of their marketing/seminar systems? I fell into the trap because of the 90 day "guarantee".

I just received an email from Larry Klein, president of NFCom, saying they've closed their doors and fired everyone. He says there's no one to talk to about refunds or guarantees. Luckily, we've stopped payment on our credit card and put the payment into dispute.

Has anyone else gotten duped by these clowns?

PS- I think I remember seeing posts from Larry Klein on this forum in the past. I hope he shows his face here again...

Dec 22, 2006 12:23 am

Check this out: www.outlarryklein.blogspot.com/



Dec 22, 2006 6:12 am

[quote=EDJ to RIA]

Has anyone else bought one of their marketing/seminar systems? I fell into the trap because of the 90 day “guarantee”.

I just received an email from Larry Klein, president of NFCom, saying they've closed their doors and fired everyone. He says there's no one to talk to about refunds or guarantees. Luckily, we've stopped payment on our credit card and put the payment into dispute.

Has anyone else gotten duped by these clowns?

PS- I think I remember seeing posts from Larry Klein on this forum in the past. I hope he shows his face here again...

[/quote]

LPL put him in the penalty box over a year ago.  Now I'm wondering why?  What did they know?
Dec 22, 2006 6:30 am

[quote=preluder]Check this out: www.outlarryklein.blogspot.com/



[/quote]

what a farking joke!  I went through the whole blog.

this guy should get a medal for shutting down crap the NASD was aware of but didn’t stop…

I had been approached by them over the years but it always seemed too good to be true…now I know my gut instincts were right.

Dec 26, 2006 9:31 pm

Good info.  Just another Failed Planner.  Managers and Consultants.  Those who can DO, those who can't consult/manage.

Jan 3, 2007 10:34 pm

Larry Klein= bad news.

A very dishonest man.  He must be stopped.

Peace to all of you...except Larry Klein.

Jan 5, 2007 1:46 pm

From www.outlarryklein.blogspot.com, here is the script that all NF/Javelin employees were given to read when questions like yours came up:

"But didn’t you work there?

"Yes, I did. I was terminated and lucky that Javelin Marketing, a new company, offered me a position.

"Well who is there that can help me with (something from NF).

"NF Communications was dissolved. That company no longer exists. There are no employees or managers—that firm ceased all operations.

"Well who is this new Javelin Marketing?

"It’s a company that hired some of us and continues to provide services similar to what NF Communications provided. But it is not related to NF Communications and the owners are different.

“But who can I talk to about my booklets that I paid for?”

"NF Communications was DISSOLVED. That company no longer exists. There are no employees or managers—that firm ceased all operations. There is no one to talk to. There is nothing that you can do and nothing that I can tell you to do."

If they are insistent and just don’t get it, transfer them to extension 218.

"Tell them: I am going to transfer you to a recorded phone message that the managers left before they were terminated.

Jan 6, 2007 4:09 am

Zaid, based on your tagline, I assume you are a Steelers fan?? Too bad

about Cower, huh? I liked that guy.

Jan 6, 2007 3:55 pm

[quote=Broker24]Zaid, based on your tagline, I assume you are a Steelers fan?? Too bad
about Cower, huh? I liked that guy.[/quote]

Actually, I wasn't a Steelers fan until Big Ben was drafted by them (I guess that gives away my College). Even though wife and her family are from Pittsburgh, I was always a Colts fan.

Re Cowher...yes, too bad. I think the break will be good for him though. With a little fine tuning and a little less cycle riding, the Steelers should be able to win 10-11 games next year.

Jan 8, 2007 3:47 am

In addition to the www.outlarryklein.blogspot.com also check out

http://screwedbylarry.blogspot.com. EDGto RIA you may want to let your credit card company know about those blogs as well as an article at www.insurancenewsnet.com/article.asp?a=sa&id=73783.

Apr 30, 2007 5:40 pm

He’s baaaaaaack!!!  I just got this email:


Have more time than
you ever dreamed

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      Attend this complimentary 60 minute teleconference and learn:

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       As I go around the country speaking, the main complaint I hear from already successful producers is that they need help with practice management. These producers already feel they do enough business but their business is out of control. They work 10-12 hours a day and have no way to grow. They make a good living yet feel inundated. Let's stop the insanity.

      In 60 minute teleclass we will knock down the biggest barriers to a successful, scalable business and we won't have you in the office more than 8 hours a day.

There's MORE

       Saving time, being more organized and being more efficient are HUGE benefits for any professional. But wait until we show you how to use the time. Without this eye-opening illustration, most producers would simply fill the time with the same old same old.

      But before the end of this teleconference, you learn to use your new-found time in a highly leveraged manner--a way that gets you many many new clients and not just one at a time.

      Register for this teleconference. No cost to you and a tremendous lesson to gain.

This Thursday, May 3 , 9 am Pacific, No charge

      I look forward to meeting you there for a business-altering hour. (Please note--no products will be discussed--this is about building your business, not about products).

Thank you,

Larry Klein , CPA/PFS, CFP®
Certified Retirement Financial Advisor

  Please do not reply as this email will not take replies.
To unsubscribe from future mailings, click the
following link and send blank e-mail: [email protected]

 
How does he stay in business when the NASD and SEC are all over US all the time!  It's ridiculuous.  Maybe someone should see if YMH-YMH can drop a dime on him.
Apr 30, 2007 6:04 pm

Because no one gets into any trouble for screwing over brokers.  No one can get re-elected for preventing someone from screwing over brokers.  Eliot Spitzer connot become POTUS by trying to protect brokers.  So drop all the dimes you want…out best protection is to stick together and protect each other from these pieces of dog drool.

May 1, 2007 2:41 pm


Can someone please explain how guys like Larry Klein and Steve Anderson keep getting away with screwing advisors for millions of dollars over and over? Does the fact that both reside in California have anything to do with it?



FYI … Before you purchase anything from iMediaPro (a.k.a. SeminarTicket.com and Cold Call Cowboy)) make sure you do your due diligence.



1) http://www.local6.com/news/10408354/detail.html

iMediaPr o exposed by undercover TV crew in Orlando, FL

Watch the entire undercover video footage and news report.



2) http://imediapro-ripoff.blogspot.com/

Just a few of the numerous complaints against iMediaPro

May 1, 2007 3:00 pm

[quote=Stephen]
Can someone please explain how guys like Larry Klein and Steve Anderson keep getting away with screwing advisors for millions of dollars over and over? Does the fact that both reside in California have anything to do with it?

FYI ... Before you purchase anything from iMediaPro (a.k.a. SeminarTicket.com and Cold Call Cowboy)) make sure you do your due diligence.

1) http://www.local6.com/news/10408354/detail.html
iMediaPr o exposed by undercover TV crew in Orlando, FL
Watch the entire undercover video footage and news report.

2) http://imediapro-ripoff.blogspot.com/
Just a few of the numerous complaints against iMediaPro [/quote]

Because most people are too lazy and afraid to ask people for business, so they look for crutches like audio business cards or they go to work at banks.

May 9, 2007 3:40 pm

Back to the Larry, he’s apparently formed some sort of alliance with Covenant Reliant Producers/Matthew Rettick.



Maybe we should create another forum called The Clown Zone, where we simply rate all these useless clowns.

May 10, 2007 12:09 am

[quote=madabroker]Back to the Larry, he's apparently formed some sort of alliance with Covenant Reliant Producers/Matthew Rettick.

Maybe we should create another forum called The Clown Zone, where we simply rate all these useless clowns. [/quote]

That's an insult to clowns.

May 10, 2007 12:27 am

[quote=madabroker] Back to the Larry, he’s apparently formed some sort

of alliance with Covenant Reliant Producers/Matthew Rettick.



Maybe we should create another forum called The Clown Zone, where we

simply rate all these useless clowns. [/quote]



That’s an excellent idea, Madabroker!

Nov 18, 2008 4:31 pm

Larry may be at it again. Be careful.

  Peace to all of you. It's nice to be back in the States.  I have been fevorishly trying to broker an agreement with Assad and Israel.   We're close. Assad only wants two things. The Golan back, and to stay in power. He knows he needs to kiss Iran goodbye for that to happen. And I sense it will   Odd win vs. S.D. Watched it online.      
Sep 2, 2010 6:15 pm

Imedia pro has just sent out a bankruptcy presentation to all contract holder again stating due to health issues and the recession they have no money and have closed the doors.  Good news is????  They want to make sure you get your project completed.  You can work with their "producers/replicators/printers" directly; however, there is no money left in the business so you have to pay each supplier directly to have your project completed.  On the upside, Stephen is fully convinced his health issues will be resolved and he will be back in business in no time at all so he's offering a gift card for the equivalent value it costs you to complete your projects directly to be used towards your next order when he is back in the swing of things and reopens for business. Out $15K myself and live in Canada. 

I would share the email letter I received 2 days ago from the desk of Stephen W. Anderson, but it has a link to his professionally made bankruptcy presentation which triggers an email from their online support giving you your pricing and options for completing your production.  I don't want a pile of emails coming from the viewing.  If I can figure out how to save the viewing I will post.

Sep 15, 2011 8:16 pm

My experience with Stephen W. Anderson, Cold Call Cowboy Productions, and The Creative Juice was far different than what I've read here.  My experience was amazing.  Here's what I would like to share.

I first met Stephen Anderson when his product was the Audio Business Card and his company was Cold Call Cowboy Productions in the mid 80's.  It appeared to be just the missing piece of the puzzle for me.  I loved it, immediately ordered it, and it did everything I expected and more.  Mr. Anderson said that if I would follow the marketing plan that came with it, that it was reasonable to expect a 50% increase in my business within the first year.  I exceeded that.

I actually doubled my business in less than 12 months.  I was thrilled.  The entire experience of dealing with his company was first rate.

Fast forward to 2011 when I was exposed to the multimedia business card. I was ready to order a second time when I came across some disturbing comment on the Internet about Steve and his company that caused me some concern.

I obviously knew Steve from my previous order and before I orgered again, I felt I needed to hear for myself what the story was.

I've been around the block long enough to realize that every business has issues at one time or another and if you're doing any kind of business at all, you're going to have some unhapy clients here and there, but this obviously still concerned me, as I was looking at an investment, for me, that represented a large part of my marketing budget.

I called The Creative Juice and spoke to Stephen W. Anderson personally by phone.  I expressed concern about what I had read.  He was very open and forthright.  He answered every question I threw at him and explained that everything I was reading on the Internet were the result of events that occured back in 2003 / 04.  He said that 8 years later that those events were ancient history and since that time have delivered several thousand more orders.

He actually went through the dozen or so complaints on the Internet one by one.  He knew each one by name, and told me their individual story.   Hearing him tell his story and comparing that to what each person posted on the Internet gave me a level of comfort allowing me to proceed with my order.  I knew what the first order did for my business and I was expecting that again with this order.

What clinched the deal was that even though I didn't ask for one, he set me up on a payment program just so I was 100% comfortable with my decision to move forward.  He set it up so my payments were tied to production milestones.  I paid 1/4 to get started, 1/4 at sign off on my cover material, 1/4 at sign off of CD ROM, and 1/4 on delivery.  This way I could see things happening on my end and I was very comfortable with the pay as you go program.

To make a long story short.  I was told the turnaround time was approximately 90 to 120 days.   They completed my order in half that time.  My finished product is incredible, and my clients and prospects alike are impressed.  

I can't speak for anyone else, other than myself, but my experience with Stephen W. Anderson and The Creative Juice was first rate.  In fact, after going through the process, experiencing success, and receiving my entire order a month early, I've referred some of my peers to them too.

I hope this has been helpful.  If you have questions, I would be happy to speak with you on my cell.  Ask for Ellis Nash at 917-301-7600