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Oct 3, 2006 12:40 am

Anyone doing it? Why bother scrubbing your list and excluding about 90% of

the available households? Think about it, some of these people havent

gotten called by a broker in 3 years. Talk about ripe for the picking.

Oct 3, 2006 3:29 am

I have been reading forums on this site for about a year now but haven't written anything yet.  However, this stupid post has now forced me to join this site.

Reggin,

Please continue to call without scrubbing your leads.  You are obviously ignoring their desire for privacy, and will probably end up calling someone from the NASD or a firm you are not with who knows they are on the DNC and will report you.  Eventually you will make a mistake and may face an $11,000 fine or if you are extremely unlucky, you could end up like these timeshare sellers:  (a $500,000 fine for those who don't want to read it)

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/consumerawareness/a/donotcallf ine.htm

So keep on calling your unscrubbed leads.  At least there will be one less broker for me to compete with. 

Oct 3, 2006 3:36 am

I didn’t think reggin was serious…sounded pretty tounge-in-cheek to me.  Reggin, if you’re serious…nevermind…you can’t be serious…

Oct 3, 2006 3:55 am

[quote=runswithbulls]

I have been reading forums on this site for

about a year now but haven’t written anything yet. However, this stupid

post has now forced me to join this site.



Reggin,



Please continue to call without scrubbing your leads. You are obviously

ignoring their desire for privacy, and will probably end up calling

someone from the NASD or a firm you are not with who knows they are

on the DNC and will report you. Eventually you will make a mistake and

may face an $11,000 fine or if you are extremely unlucky, you could

end up like these timeshare sellers: (a $500,000 fine for those who don’t

want to read it)



<a href=“http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/consumerawareness/a/
<br / target=”_blank">donotcallfine.htm"> http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/consumerawareness/

a/donotcallf ine.htm



So keep on calling your unscrubbed leads. At least there will be one

less broker for me to compete with.

[/quote]



What makes you think that you are a competitor with me? My trailing 12

is 600K, you don’t even deserve to serve me coffee.



And reality check moron… My post was a joke, and so are you.
Oct 3, 2006 2:26 pm

Knowing this is a joke, I will still share a true story. There was a newbie in my office who was killing it for about 18 months. He was very good, getting 4-5 new meetings a week along with the usual 2nd and 3rds.. He was an absolute animal on the phones when he wasnt meeting with clients/ pro's.

Guy was in before everyone and brewing the late night coffee at 7pm for another round of calling until 8:30-9pm.

Life was good until he called the wrong guy- on the DNC list. The prospect was a securities lawyer who turned him in and pursued action against this FA.

Long story short- the firm investigated and found out the FA was calling primarily DNC leads. Lets just say the FA is no longer cold calling- or do anything for that matter.

At least I got a whopping 100K account from the distribution

Oct 3, 2006 5:19 pm

Reggin - I think you have too many zero’s behind your trailing 12 month production number.  I would guess that it’s more like $6,000.

Oct 3, 2006 5:49 pm

[quote=blarmston]

Long story short- the firm investigated and found out the FA was calling primarily DNC leads. Lets just say the FA is no longer cold calling- or do anything for that matter.


[/quote]

I don’t blame RunsWithBulls for thinking this was for real.  This sort of thing happens more often than it should.  (I certainly get calls at home).

Maybe next time you post a spoof you should use a handle like TalksMuchBull.


Oct 4, 2006 2:15 am

[quote=apprentice] Reggin - I think you have too many zero’s behind

your trailing 12 month production number. I would guess that it’s more

like $6,000.[/quote]



While I’m sure that it would make you feel better, to justify your own

pathetic production, I’m not about to lie. The number is legit.



How do I know that your production is below mine? Simple. Anyone at or

above my level would never question me. They know what it takes to put

up such numbers, and know others doing it. It would never cross their

mind that someone would lie.



Take a good look in the mirror and an even harder look at your own

numbers.

Oct 4, 2006 2:54 am

[quote=Reggin] [quote=apprentice] Reggin - I think you have too many zero's behind
your trailing 12 month production number.  I would guess that it's more
like $6,000.[/quote]

While I'm sure that it would make you feel better, to justify your own
pathetic production, I'm not about to lie. The number is legit.

How do I know that your production is below mine? Simple. Anyone at or
above my level would never question me. They know what it takes to put
up such numbers, and know others doing it. It would never cross their
mind that someone would lie.

Take a good look in the mirror and an even harder look at your own
numbers.[/quote]

Amen to that.

Oct 4, 2006 12:56 pm

Reggin - I guess there's no way to verify your accuracy is there?  In fact - for all we know, you're probably in your parents basement watching star trek and surfing the net for various chat rooms.

Anyway - I think you mom is calling you for breakfast.

Oct 4, 2006 1:45 pm

If it makes you feel better about your own self, then think what you want.



Look in the mirror, boy.

Oct 4, 2006 4:24 pm

[quote=apprentice]

Reggin - I guess there’s no way to verify your accuracy is there?  In fact - for all we know, you’re probably in your parents basement watching star trek and surfing the net for various chat rooms.


[/quote]

Actually, there is a way to verify without outing yourselves online.  Both of you call me and reveal your true identities.  I’ll ask a few questions, and then post my opinion on your validity.  Your true names will remain confidential.

I think that most people would agree that as a headhunter I can recognize the real thing.

What do you say?


Oct 4, 2006 5:49 pm

There’s another way…I used it when newbie was saying I lied about my series 7 test score.  I scanned the results page, clipped out my name, social security number and other unique information, and uploaded the image to a free image hosting site ( www.theimagehosting.com )and posted the image here in a post.  It’s a bit cumbersome, but it should be a good way to remove most of the bullchit from this forum.

Oct 4, 2006 6:58 pm

That would be great!  However, I never claimed to produce more than our friend Reggin.  In fact - I'm far below the $600k level (not worthy of buying / serving coffee).  My observation was that Reggin is probably living some fantasy life through this forum where we hide our real identities (except for our friendly neighborhood head hunter).

Oct 4, 2006 7:21 pm

[quote=apprentice]

through this forum where we hide our real identities (except for our friendly neighborhood head hunter).

[/quote]

Believe me, I regret that sometimes.

Back when I just started posting, somebody found my corporate web site (which has a picture of me).  Suddenly people were telling me to cut back on all those breakfast burritos.  (I’m not small).

Anyway; how do you know that I’m not another aspect of NASD Newbie hiding behind a cleverly constructed persona?
Oct 4, 2006 7:31 pm

Jeff - you’re far to articulate and logical, and less ‘self-loving’ than any incarnation of NASD Newbie.  I’m a skeptic by nature (as you can tell in my other posts) - but you appear to be legit.

Oct 4, 2006 9:15 pm

[quote=JCadieux] [quote=apprentice]

through this forum where we hide our real identities (except for our friendly neighborhood head hunter).

[/quote]

Believe me, I regret that sometimes.

Back when I just started posting, somebody found my corporate web site (which has a picture of me).  Suddenly people were telling me to cut back on all those breakfast burritos.  (I'm not small).

Anyway; how do you know that I'm not another aspect of NASD Newbie hiding behind a cleverly constructed persona?
[/quote]

I recall reading that, Jeff.  It was quite a snide jab.

Oct 4, 2006 9:19 pm

That was gool ole joedabrkr...something about a few less tacos at lunch or something like that, but if I remember right, he said it was all in jest and acknowledged that he liked food too...

Oct 4, 2006 10:08 pm

[quote=Indyone]

That was gool ole joedabrkr…something about a few less tacos at lunch or something like that, but if I remember right, he said it was all in jest and acknowledged that he liked food too…

[/quote]

I know.  I know.  You can’t be too thin skinned around here.

But since that day I’ve never really been able to enjoy a good taco… 
Oct 4, 2006 10:58 pm

[quote=JCadieux] [quote=Indyone]That was gool ole joedabrkr...something about a few less tacos at lunch or something like that, but if I remember right, he said it was all in jest and acknowledged that he liked food too...[/quote]

I know.  I know.  You can't be too thin skinned around here.

But since that day I've never really been able to enjoy a good taco...  [/quote]

...full disclosure...I could use a few less tacos myself, but I haven't found the willpower to give 'em up...