Sarah Palin ... our national joke
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Colbert for President.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2010/02/09/2010-02-09_stephen_colbert_defends_sarah_palin_on_colbert_report_calls_her_a_fing_retard.htmlPalin is a total idiot.
However, I don't understand the hubub over the notes on her hand. My grandma has done it for decades. It's just an old school approach to the teleprompter.[quote=UNDERMINDED]Palin is a total idiot.
However, I don't understand the hubub over the notes on her hand. My grandma has done it for decades. It's just an old school approach to the teleprompter.[/quote] OK ... first of all, at the time she was criticizing the President for using a teleprompter. Second, read the notes on her hand. It's not like she had a formula for figuring out cost basis on a municipal bond. She couldn't remember something as broadly important as ... taxes. But you are right. She's a total idiot.[quote=LockEDJ][quote=UNDERMINDED]Palin is a total idiot.
However, I don't understand the hubub over the notes on her hand. My grandma has done it for decades. It's just an old school approach to the teleprompter.[/quote] OK ... first of all, at the time she was criticizing the President for using a teleprompter. Second, read the notes on her hand. It's not like she had a formula for figuring out cost basis on a municipal bond. She couldn't remember something as broadly important as ... taxes. But you are right. She's a total idiot.[/quote] Actually, what's worse is that she had her talking points written on her hand. As in, her alleged agenda on how to make the country better. That's her f***ing job, to know what she would do to make America better. She doesn't even know...she has to have some handler that actually has some idea of what's going on in the world tell her what to say. It's like going to an advisor and saying "what is the basic premise of investing", and the advisor looking at his/her hand to see "buy low, sell high" written on it. What's worse is there are people like Spiff who would actually vote for this person. I heard her talking on NPR this morning and I almost drove my car off the road. Her voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard, and the fact that people sincerely listen to her is baffling. She is a political sideshow freak, the Washington version of the bearded lady. I will make this solemn promise...if she is elected president, I am leaving. I think I would rather live in Russia. There would be no greater indictment on the stupidity of the American people than if she was ever considered as serious contender for POTUS.Sometimes … frankly, that Colbert piece should be required watching for everyone. Hilarious, scary.
[quote=thrownouttwice] [quote=Spaceman Spiff] [quote=LockEDJ]For real now … has anyone ever seen anything so ludicrous as the images of a national political figure referring to crib notes WRITTEN ON HER HAND? Sarah … STFU. You continually prove incredibly not qualified to be on the national stage. You’re in over your head. Just brutal, the woman is just brutal.[/quote]
Sure. Obama does it everytime he talks in public. They don't call him the TPOTUS for nothing. As for her not being qualified for the national stage...again I reference our two term, do nothing, community organizing, loser of a president. Talk about not qualified. At least Palin has actually been in charge of something bigger than her household budget. I'm not even sure Obama has actually done that.
I think if you put Obama and Palin on stage and tell the American people that we're going to elect a new president today, Palin would crush him. Not even close. [/quote]
Spiff, your an idiot and the voters proved that. Palin stole the election from McCain. Talk to anyone qualified in politics and you will know. Your southern back arse views are embarrassing. You didn't want a black man voted in and you know it. GB jr gave this guy a train wreck to deal with. I am not impressed with him so far but I ain't calling the USA president a "loser of a president". Your so backass unintelligent bible thumping ass backward it scares me.[/quote] First, I'm not from the south. Second, who am I embarrassing? I'd guess right about now, a bit over half the people in the country agree with me. Third, I don't like Obama because of his politics, not because of the shade of his skin. Fourth, time will tell us if Obama is really a loser of a president. I'm certainly not impressed with anything that he has done. Or has attempted to do at any rate. His ideas might be OK for Cuba or China, but they don't really work very well here. Fifth, Bible should be capitalized. It's the name of a book. Just like I would always capitalize Mein Kampf. Finally, what's the difference between Jesus and President Obama? Jesus could build a cabinet.
She’s a complete moron, plain and simple. How the hell can people say she’d be a good president when she bailed on her job as Governor?
Like Sometimes wrote, the notes on her hand were not anything difficult and something that should not have to be written down to recall. She just completely annoys the crap out of me. I actually wanted to visit Alaska before I knew who she was.
[quote=Spaceman Spiff][quote=thrownouttwice] [quote=Spaceman Spiff] [quote=LockEDJ]For real now … has anyone ever seen anything so ludicrous as the images of a national political figure referring to crib notes WRITTEN ON HER HAND? Sarah … STFU. You continually prove incredibly not qualified to be on the national stage. You’re in over your head. Just brutal, the woman is just brutal.[/quote]
Sure. Obama does it everytime he talks in public. They don't call him the TPOTUS for nothing. As for her not being qualified for the national stage...again I reference our two term, do nothing, community organizing, loser of a president. Talk about not qualified. At least Palin has actually been in charge of something bigger than her household budget. I'm not even sure Obama has actually done that.
I think if you put Obama and Palin on stage and tell the American people that we're going to elect a new president today, Palin would crush him. Not even close. [/quote]
Spiff, your an idiot and the voters proved that. Palin stole the election from McCain. Talk to anyone qualified in politics and you will know. Your southern back arse views are embarrassing. You didn't want a black man voted in and you know it. GB jr gave this guy a train wreck to deal with. I am not impressed with him so far but I ain't calling the USA president a "loser of a president". Your so backass unintelligent bible thumping ass backward it scares me.[/quote] First, I'm not from the south. Second, who am I embarrassing? I'd guess right about now, a bit over half the people in the country agree with me. Third, I don't like Obama because of his politics, not because of the shade of his skin. Fourth, time will tell us if Obama is really a loser of a president. I'm certainly not impressed with anything that he has done. Or has attempted to do at any rate. His ideas might be OK for Cuba or China, but they don't really work very well here. Fifth, Bible should be capitalized. It's the name of a book. Just like I would always capitalize Mein Kampf. Finally, what's the difference between Jesus and President Obama? Jesus could build a cabinet. [/quote]
I am not trying to be antagonistic, but I don't understand what people mean when they say this. What expectations did you have one year into his presidency? Did you think he was going to be finished implementing his agenda by his first SOTU? Like his address was going to go something like "well, I'm finished. I'm going to hit the beach. Hit me on my Blackberry if you guys need me"...
Spiff, no offense meant, but you sound like a partisan ideologue. And partisan ideologues (on both sides) are the reason things aren't getting done (Mohomed El Erian alluded to this in a recent Bloomberg article) and why a lot of the problems facing this nation aren't being addressed and are subsequently getting worse. In my humble opinion, people like you are what's going wrong with this country. No opinions, just talking points copied from some Fox News talking head (or Air America/CNN or whatever on the other side).
I think that if Obama wore a red tie to his business meetings you would be a lot more forgiving of his performance and his ideas.
Moraen- I agree with you that Wesley Clark is another good choice. Bob Corker is getting some attention lately too.
Sarah Palin was hot but now it's just old news. She looks like she has aged a lot since the elections. I would not want to see her upclose and early in the morning. As for her hand, who cares. I would rather someone have a couple of talking points they must cover on their hand incase they get off track then to have Obama or any f***ing leader for that matter stand in front of the tv and pretend to look side to side while reading word for word. That PR bullsh*t pisses me off and they all do it. But he ummms so much without a prompter that I guess he needs it. I do think he is getting better with the non-prompter speaking engagements though. I also think that if the job market doesn't start turning around soon the American public will turn on him. I don't see it happening until the end of this year or begining of next year. Whether he inherited the problem or not he asked for it by running for Prez. Back to the OP... No woman should run this country. They are an emotional train wreck!!!!I guess he’s comparing it to Bush. In Bush’s first year, he enacted some nice tax cuts, passed NCLB (which has it’s flaws, but he pushed it through a Congress that was not nearly as lopsided as this one is in the Democrats favor), got attacked on 9/11 and removed the Taliban from power. Created the Department of Homeland Security, showed strong support for an ally (Taiwan) in a standoff with China (something President Obama has yet to do - he simply wants to be everyone’s friend).
All while taking more vacation days than any other president in history. In fact, most of the month of August.
What has President Obama done with a clear-cut majority in both legislative bodies?
I agree, Paliin & Limbaugh and the people who support them are exactly what is wrong in our country. Nothing but a bunch of brain-dead lemings. What's worse is they are gaining control of the party. I would guess we will probably have a complete retard receive the republican nomination in 2012. Of course, this is why Obama will win again. Did I say retard?
I am not trying to be antagonistic, but I don’t understand what people mean when they say this. What expectations did you have one year into his presidency? Did you think he was going to be finished implementing his agenda by his first SOTU? Like his address was going to go something like “well, I’m finished. I’m going to hit the beach. Hit me on my Blackberry if you guys need me”…
Spiff, no offense meant, but you sound like a partisan ideologue. And partisan ideologues (on both sides) are the reason things aren’t getting done (Mohomed El Erian alluded to this in a recent Bloomberg article) and why a lot of the problems facing this nation aren’t being addressed and are subsequently getting worse. In my humble opinion, people like you are what’s going wrong with this country. No opinions, just talking points copied from some Fox News talking head (or Air America/CNN or whatever on the other side).
I think that if Obama wore a red tie to his business meetings you would be a lot more forgiving of his performance and his ideas.
[quote=mlgone]We will see. Bush jr could in my opinion go down as one of the worst presidents in US history[/quote]
Because public opinion is skewed against him.
He made plenty of mistakes (every president does), but the things that people ding him for the most, I feel weren’t mistakes.
The facts speak for themselves. Barack Obama would likely NOT have invaded Afghanistan. And would also likely NOT have invaded Iraq. Now I know you guys think that it was a mistake, but I can almost guarantee you that we would have had another attack on U.S. soil if he hadn’t.
Al Gore would have launched missiles at Afghanistan. That’s what dumbass liberals who are afraid to commit U.S. troops do. Barack Obama would have launched ninety Predators.
What nobody understands is that ground troops are REQUIRED to realistically wage an effective campaign.
Things that weren’t mistakes.
Tax cuts
Iraq invasion
Afghanistan invasion
Petraeus
Standing up for Taiwan
Providing more help for AIDs infested countries
Denouncing Yassar Arafat
Some things that were:
Rummy
Cheney
NCLB (debatable - some things about No Child Left Behind are good)
Not putting the brakes on Fannie and Freddie (although that is a legislative task)
Tommy Franks (sorry Army13A, I know he’s arty, but come on, he’s almost as brainless as Palin)
Stem cells
See? I’m equal opportunity. But, he did accomplish things. Our current President (and despite his faults, he is my President and I hope he starts “gettin’ it”) has accomplished what with his supermajority? And it doesn’t look like that future is any brighter.
When the Republicans start trouncing Democrats, and he no longer holds either house of Congress, he’ll REALLY get nothing done. Lame duck.
[quote=SometimesNowhere] [quote=Spaceman Spiff][quote=thrownouttwice] [quote=Spaceman Spiff] [quote=LockEDJ]For real now … has anyone ever seen anything so ludicrous as the images of a national political figure referring to crib notes WRITTEN ON HER HAND? Sarah … STFU. You continually prove incredibly not qualified to be on the national stage. You’re in over your head. Just brutal, the woman is just brutal.[/quote]
Sure. Obama does it everytime he talks in public. They don't call him the TPOTUS for nothing. As for her not being qualified for the national stage...again I reference our two term, do nothing, community organizing, loser of a president. Talk about not qualified. At least Palin has actually been in charge of something bigger than her household budget. I'm not even sure Obama has actually done that.
I think if you put Obama and Palin on stage and tell the American people that we're going to elect a new president today, Palin would crush him. Not even close. [/quote]
Spiff, your an idiot and the voters proved that. Palin stole the election from McCain. Talk to anyone qualified in politics and you will know. Your southern back arse views are embarrassing. You didn't want a black man voted in and you know it. GB jr gave this guy a train wreck to deal with. I am not impressed with him so far but I ain't calling the USA president a "loser of a president". Your so backass unintelligent bible thumping ass backward it scares me.[/quote] First, I'm not from the south. Second, who am I embarrassing? I'd guess right about now, a bit over half the people in the country agree with me. Third, I don't like Obama because of his politics, not because of the shade of his skin. Fourth, time will tell us if Obama is really a loser of a president. I'm certainly not impressed with anything that he has done. Or has attempted to do at any rate. His ideas might be OK for Cuba or China, but they don't really work very well here. Fifth, Bible should be capitalized. It's the name of a book. Just like I would always capitalize Mein Kampf. Finally, what's the difference between Jesus and President Obama? Jesus could build a cabinet. [/quote]
I am not trying to be antagonistic, but I don't understand what people mean when they say this. What expectations did you have one year into his presidency? Did you think he was going to be finished implementing his agenda by his first SOTU? Like his address was going to go something like "well, I'm finished. I'm going to hit the beach. Hit me on my Blackberry if you guys need me"...
Spiff, no offense meant, but you sound like a partisan ideologue. And partisan ideologues (on both sides) are the reason things aren't getting done (Mohomed El Erian alluded to this in a recent Bloomberg article) and why a lot of the problems facing this nation aren't being addressed and are subsequently getting worse. In my humble opinion, people like you are what's going wrong with this country. No opinions, just talking points copied from some Fox News talking head (or Air America/CNN or whatever on the other side).
I think that if Obama wore a red tie to his business meetings you would be a lot more forgiving of his performance and his ideas.
[/quote] People like me? I'm a conservative, middle class, Christian, white guy from the suburbs of STL. I believe people who are able should work for their money. I believe I should pay my fair share of taxes. I believe the government should be limited in scope. I believe that people have rights. They are spelled out in our Bill of Rights. They do not include things like food, clothing, health care, cell phones, loans, housing, cars, TVs, or educations. Some things you have to work for. So, what part of those things makes "people like me" the problem with this country? Is it that we don't think it's the governments job to run every aspect of our lives? The problem with this nation is that people are lazy. They don't want to work. They just want things handed to them for free. Funny, I voiced an opinion on this site back around Christmas and got flamed for it. If you want my opinion, I'm willing and able to give it. I just don't think most people want to hear it. As is evidenced by comments like this: Spiff, your an idiot and the voters proved that. Palin stole the election from McCain. Talk to anyone qualified in politics and you will know. Your southern back arse views are embarrassing. You didn't want a black man voted in and you know it. GB jr gave this guy a train wreck to deal with. I am not impressed with him so far but I ain't calling the USA president a "loser of a president". Your so backass unintelligent bible thumping ass backward it scares me.
[quote=Spaceman Spiff][quote=SometimesNowhere] [quote=Spaceman Spiff][quote=thrownouttwice] [quote=Spaceman Spiff] [quote=LockEDJ]For real now … has anyone ever seen anything so ludicrous as the images of a national political figure referring to crib notes WRITTEN ON HER HAND? Sarah … STFU. You continually prove incredibly not qualified to be on the national stage. You’re in over your head. Just brutal, the woman is just brutal.[/quote]
Sure. Obama does it everytime he talks in public. They don't call him the TPOTUS for nothing. As for her not being qualified for the national stage...again I reference our two term, do nothing, community organizing, loser of a president. Talk about not qualified. At least Palin has actually been in charge of something bigger than her household budget. I'm not even sure Obama has actually done that.
I think if you put Obama and Palin on stage and tell the American people that we're going to elect a new president today, Palin would crush him. Not even close. [/quote]
Spiff, your an idiot and the voters proved that. Palin stole the election from McCain. Talk to anyone qualified in politics and you will know. Your southern back arse views are embarrassing. You didn't want a black man voted in and you know it. GB jr gave this guy a train wreck to deal with. I am not impressed with him so far but I ain't calling the USA president a "loser of a president". Your so backass unintelligent bible thumping ass backward it scares me.[/quote] First, I'm not from the south. Second, who am I embarrassing? I'd guess right about now, a bit over half the people in the country agree with me. Third, I don't like Obama because of his politics, not because of the shade of his skin. Fourth, time will tell us if Obama is really a loser of a president. I'm certainly not impressed with anything that he has done. Or has attempted to do at any rate. His ideas might be OK for Cuba or China, but they don't really work very well here. Fifth, Bible should be capitalized. It's the name of a book. Just like I would always capitalize Mein Kampf. Finally, what's the difference between Jesus and President Obama? Jesus could build a cabinet. [/quote]
I am not trying to be antagonistic, but I don't understand what people mean when they say this. What expectations did you have one year into his presidency? Did you think he was going to be finished implementing his agenda by his first SOTU? Like his address was going to go something like "well, I'm finished. I'm going to hit the beach. Hit me on my Blackberry if you guys need me"...
Spiff, no offense meant, but you sound like a partisan ideologue. And partisan ideologues (on both sides) are the reason things aren't getting done (Mohomed El Erian alluded to this in a recent Bloomberg article) and why a lot of the problems facing this nation aren't being addressed and are subsequently getting worse. In my humble opinion, people like you are what's going wrong with this country. No opinions, just talking points copied from some Fox News talking head (or Air America/CNN or whatever on the other side).
I think that if Obama wore a red tie to his business meetings you would be a lot more forgiving of his performance and his ideas.
[/quote] People like me? I'm a conservative, middle class, Christian, white guy from the suburbs of STL. I believe people who are able should work for their money. I believe I should pay my fair share of taxes. I believe the government should be limited in scope. I believe that people have rights. They are spelled out in our Bill of Rights. They do not include things like food, clothing, health care, cell phones, loans, housing, cars, TVs, or educations. Some things you have to work for. So, what part of those things makes "people like me" the problem with this country? Is it that we don't think it's the governments job to run every aspect of our lives? The problem with this nation is that people are lazy. They don't want to work. They just want things handed to them for free. Funny, I voiced an opinion on this site back around Christmas and got flamed for it. If you want my opinion, I'm willing and able to give it. I just don't think most people want to hear it. As is evidenced by comments like this: Spiff, your an idiot and the voters proved that. Palin stole the election from McCain. Talk to anyone qualified in politics and you will know. Your southern back arse views are embarrassing. You didn't want a black man voted in and you know it. GB jr gave this guy a train wreck to deal with. I am not impressed with him so far but I ain't calling the USA president a "loser of a president". Your so backass unintelligent bible thumping ass backward it scares me. [/quote]
I don't care if you are Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Mormon, whatever. I don't care if you are conservative or liberal, where you grew up (unless it was France, then you should leave), what class you belong too. What I mean by "people like you" are people that are more interested in "my ideas vs. your ideas" as opposed to "good ideas vs. bad ideas". I think there are problems with both major political parties in this country. The fact that you admit that you think Sarah Palin is a viable presidential candidate is not only scary, but I think it shows you are no longer looking at the person, what they say, and what they believe. You are only looking at the color of their lapel. That is the problem, that's what I mean by "people like you".
Further, I am always amazed that the right has won the Evangelical vote. I think if Jesus were anything (other than a Communist, which would probably be his closest modern political affiliation), he certainly wouldn't be a Republican. Again, it shows that people stopped critically thinking.
Like I said Spiff, I am not trying to insult you. I just think you are an ideologue, and ideologues are dangerous as leaders, and even more dangerous as followers.
[quote=Moraen]
Things that weren’t mistakes.
Tax cuts - Tax Cuts (no); Borrowing money to pay for them during a period of economic expansion (YES)
Iraq invasion - Completely disagree - I created a new post for this one
Afghanistan invasion - Agree
Petraeus - Agree
Standing up for Taiwan - Agree
Providing more help for AIDs infested countries - Agree - Although we should qualify that most of the money went to US Pharma companies - Win! Win!
Denouncing Yassar Arafat - Yes; but supporting free elections in Palestine was a mistake.
Some things that were:
Rummy - Agree
Cheney - Agree
NCLB (debatable - some things about No Child Left Behind are good) - Agree
Not putting the brakes on Fannie and Freddie (although that is a legislative task) - Agree - Systemic failure, not necessarily presidential.
Tommy Franks (sorry Army13A, I know he’s arty, but come on, he’s almost as brainless as Palin) - pass
Stem cells - Strongly agree.[/quote]
Just my 2c - Thanks for reading!
Just to be clear, I didn’t stay that I thought Palin was a viable candidate for president. This conversation was that she was our national joke. I disagreed and said that I believe she could beat Obama in an election today. There’s a difference between that and saying that I’d support her as a presidential candidate in 2012.
Why do you think Jesus wouldn't be a republican? I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just curious why you think that.[quote=Spaceman Spiff]Just to be clear, I didn’t stay that I thought Palin was a viable candidate for president. This conversation was that she was our national joke. I disagreed and said that I believe she could beat Obama in an election today. There’s a difference between that and saying that I’d support her as a presidential candidate in 2012.
Why do you think Jesus wouldn't be a republican? I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just curious why you think that. [/quote] My misunderstanding. I disagree, but that is more of a statistical argument that isn't very interesting to me. As for Jesus not being a Republican, my interpretation of the Good Book is that he was far more willing to provide for the poor whether or not they "deserved it". You know, "grace is not earned, it's given", and so on and so forth. For Jesus need came before justice. Cost was never a consideration. That's the kind of thing that gets you conservatives to start barfing on each other about how wrong it is to give food and housing and health care and cell phones (which irritates me too, by the way) and cars and whatever to the poor since they haven't "earned it". Giving without regard to cost seems very Democrat to me. For the record, I don't think it's practical, which is why I frequently vote conservatively when it comes to my pocket book. It's for this reason that I don't think that specific religious principles should guide public policy. It doesn't work. I can appreciate people living their convictions, but they shouldn't try to legislate them. For that matter, I sometimes doubt that most Evangelicals are really followers of Jesus in the strict sense of the word, but I digress...