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May 26, 2008 8:36 am
doberman:

Politics aside, this would make for an interesting pairing:

 
Pres - White Man     (McCain)   vs    Black Man         (Obama)
VP    - Black Woman (Rice)              White Woman  (Clinton)
 
 
Apparently, the rumors about Condi Rice as a VP-candidate is getting some traction.
 
 
 
Actually, if you want to get technical about it, Obama is half-white, too.  But due to the darker, more dominate genes/traits, he looks, talks and acts 100% black.  Halle Berry is half black, too but calls herself black.  Wouldn't it be more honest to just have a race called Half  Vanilla/Half Chocolate (half n half).
 
More political commentary:  What's the big deal of Hillary's comments.  Maybe she meant, "relax folks, if I get assasinated then I'm out of the picture so let me hang around till the end of this, will ya?".
 
I'd like to see Joe Lieberman as McCain's VP.
 
But, can any new president do anything about these out-of-control gas prices? 
May 26, 2008 7:28 pm

[quote=megamonet

 
But, can any new president do anything about these out-of-control gas prices?  [/quote]
 
Yes and that's what scares me. Given the current and "anticipated" crop of politicians, they would only screw it up, further.
 
Two things are preventing a reduction in oil prices: our unwillingness to drill for more oil and a weak dollar. Doing what it takes, to correct both problems, would be politically unpopular. So, gas prices will continue to go up, the dollar will continue to go down, and the oil companies will face the prospect of becoming nationalized.
 
 
Aug 29, 2008 12:58 pm

Crazy that McCain picked a women and Obama picked an old dude... Personally, I see McCain in the white house!



Miss J

Aug 29, 2008 1:02 pm
MISS JONES:

Crazy that McCain picked a women and Obama picked an old dude... Personally, I see McCain in the white house!

Miss J

 
What besides ANWAR drilling will Palin exactly do?
 
Not saying I know much about it, but couldn't McCain have picked someone with better economic policies?  I realize he's trying to win the women's vote, but...
Aug 29, 2008 1:18 pm

He's holding on to that race card like it's Uno or something, I'm sure he'll keep throwing that out there when he gets the chance. 

Aug 29, 2008 1:29 pm
IsOldSpiceRightForMe:

He's holding on to that race card like it's Uno or something, I'm sure he'll keep throwing that out there when he gets the chance.





HA HA HA.. My assistant and I are cracking up at that UNO comment!!!

Aug 29, 2008 1:34 pm
iceco1d:

Just for OldSpice & Norway...to McCain I ask the same question of Hanley...

 
"Hey John, you hittin' that?" 
 
With HIS wife?!!!  Better up the Viagra scrip.
 
Ditto on the UNO card...that was funny, Old Spice.
Aug 29, 2008 1:40 pm

I know...I just don't think he can handle both w/o the little blue pill!

Aug 29, 2008 1:46 pm
iceco1d:

No, no, no.  Not his wife, our next Veep!

 
Imagine this.  McCain has an affair with Palin.  Both get impeached so the Speaker of the House is the next president:
 
Nancy Pelosi.  Uh-oh.
Aug 29, 2008 1:53 pm
iceco1d:

He won't get impeached if he doesn't lie about nailing Palin...Clinton got impeached for perjury, not getting head.





Ice- I think you need to get some.. Your mind has been in the gutter recently. That always happens to me when I am in need. So go take care of business and get back with us. (not with the details obviously)



Miss J

Aug 29, 2008 1:54 pm
MISS JONES:
iceco1d:

He won't get impeached if he doesn't lie about nailing Palin...Clinton got impeached for perjury, not getting head.



Ice- I think you need to get some.. Your mind has been in the gutter recently. That always happens to me when I am in need. So go take care of business and get back with us. (not with the details obviously)

Miss J

 
He just got married.  That explains it.
Aug 30, 2008 12:42 am
snaggletooth:
MISS JONES:

Crazy that McCain picked a women and Obama picked an old dude... Personally, I see McCain in the white house!

Miss J

 
What besides ANWAR drilling will Palin exactly do?
 
Not saying I know much about it, but couldn't McCain have picked someone with better economic policies?  I realize he's trying to win the women's vote, but...



Palin has been my preference for a long time now and McCain's pick is incredibly smart.

Who does she appeal to besides women, who ...ahem.... are more than 50% of the population?  What other voters is he going to pull into the fold.by choosing her?

NRA... lifetime member  Gun people

Union... her husband is a Steelworker's Union member. She is a former union member (don't know which one)... Gonna love her and him in the blue collar states.

Sportsmen and women. .. She is a former point guard in high school winning team. current hockey player.  Her hunky husband is a  3x champion snow mobile winner.  She currently plays hockey herself.    Brings in the NASCAR type voters.

Son in the military.  Need I say more?

Hubby has a commercial fishing business that she participates in and he is a blue collar oil man...not an executive ....in the off season

Hubby is a hawt hunk to boot!!.  Pulls in the gay vote  and women who would just like to have some eye candy.

Right to life...talking the talk and walking the walk.  Has a son with Down's Syndrome.  Could have had an abortion but chose not to.  Gets the Catholic and evangelical vote

She is against government spending and waste.  Canceled her own expensive security guards that were provided by the state and the expensive plane provided to previous governors.  Now you are talking small government conservatives

Outed a bunch of corrupt Republican politicians in Alaska who are now facing some severe penalties and prosecution.  Reform and rule of law

Has negotiated with Canada regarding the natural gas pipeline... Foreign policy experience..FTW

Not to mention all the really pissed off Hillary voters

It was a brilliant pick.  I'm surprised that McCain actually did it considering that he is such a boob.

I wasn't going to vote this year because I really don't like McCain and his liberal policies and cannot stand Obama.   First time in a very long time that I wouldn't have voted for President.  I am now going to vote and feel very very positive about having Palin on the ticket because she is a true conservative.







Aug 30, 2008 8:31 am

The only negative I keep hearing is her thin resume when it comes to chief executive experience and she still has more than Obama in my opinion. I'll admit to being shocked by the selection, but thus far, it's looking like a very bold and very smart pick. It only remains to be seen how she handles the intense media scrutiny ,her debate with Biden, and this ''Wootengate'' thing that's getting some attention. Apparently McCain's people decided she'd do fine on all counts. I'm impressed by what I see so far...she appears to handle herself well and is easy on the eyes (sorry...man thing).

Aug 30, 2008 11:08 am

I agree it has every appearance of brilliant pick for all the reasons listed by Babs.

I saw a clip late last night and can't find it, showing Obama asked about Palin and he was fumbling around and had the look of a deer (moose) in the headlights.  He certainly did not get the "second coming of Christ" bounce off that production / speech Thursday night.

Dems calling this Quayle / Ferarro like.  Dems dead wrong on this one.  If we could let Joe Biden (career do nothing Senator) or the "O" (no record of accomplishment beyond beating Hillary and rising up from rough and tumble politics in Chiicago) be president...why not a hockey mom?  My wife is a hockey Mom and I'd go with Palin over all 3...

I'd love to be in the Friday strategy meeting with Obama / Biden...and by the way she has more experience and much more compelling life story than Obama.  We don't need another do nothing Harvard grad in the WH.

Aug 30, 2008 9:15 pm

Yeah, she's got all the right stuff! To be mayor of Moosejaw or whatever back water town from which she rose up.  Past that, she's not qualified. Folks, look at the mayor of your town. Would you want this person to be president? And even if you do, would they be qualified? It doesn't matter that they are good people, good looking and down to earth. What matters is, can they do the job?

 
I agree the down to earth hockey mom/blue collar every woman thing is very attractive. But think a moment about wedge issues. Wedge issues are distractions designed to get voters to vote against their best interests. You know, like a president who will ship all a state's jobs overseas, but still gets that state's voters to vote for him using something like gay marriage,  flag burning, or another issue. People vote for him and lose their jobs as a result. It's slight of hand politics. Very smart, but deceptive. It's as if McCain's veep pick is a wedge issue unto herself. People are focused on everything she is, Hockey mom MILF, frontier woman, and not on the most important issue, which is, what she is not-which is she's qualified to run this country. Voting for her would be a vote against our best interests in that she could assend to the presidency a week after McCain takes office. We would then have a hockey mom whose resume includes running a state less complex than most counties in NJ, NY, IL,CA, MI, PA, MD,MA, and FL. To me that's putting our lives at stake. or at the very least, the future of this country.
 
We can't afford another mistake at the top.
 
 
 
Just because she shops at Wal-mart isn't a reason to put our lives in her hands.
 
 
Aug 30, 2008 9:29 pm
BondGuy:

Yeah, she's got all the right stuff! To be mayor of Moosejaw or whatever back water town from which she rose up.  Past that, she's not qualified. Folks, look at the mayor of your town. Would you want this person to be president? And even if you do, would they be qualified? It doesn't matter that they are good people, good looking and down to earth. What matters is, can they do the job?

 
I agree the down to earth hockey mom/blue collar every woman thing is very attractive. But think a moment about wedge issues. Wedge issues are distractions designed to get voters to vote against their best interests. You know, like a president who will ship all a state's jobs overseas, but still gets that state's voters to vote for him using something like gay marriage,  flag burning, or another issue. People vote for him and lose their jobs as a result. It's slight of hand politics. Very smart, but deceptive. It's as if McCain's veep pick is a wedge issue unto herself. People are focused on everything she is, Hockey mom MILF, frontier woman, and not on the most important issue, which is, what she is not-which is she's qualified to run this country. Voting for her would be a vote against our best interests in that she could assend to the presidency a week after McCain takes office. We would then have a hockey mom whose resume includes running a state less complex than most counties in NJ, NY, IL,CA, MI, PA, MD,MA, and FL. To me that's putting our lives at stake. or at the very least, the future of this country.
 
We can't afford another mistake at the top.
 
 
 
Just because she shops at Wal-mart isn't a reason to put our lives in her hands.
 
 
 
I agree BG.  A lot of people are happy with her as VP.  I don't get it.  Your slight of hand comment makes sense to me.
 
One of the Republicans and McCain's biggest selling points against Obama/Biden was Obama's inexperience.  I think Palin as VP is more inexperienced than Obama as President.
 
Below are the talking points I received from a client of mine "in the know" in the Senate.  One would think the talking points for possible VP would be a little more comprehensive and might include some decent international policy success:
 

TALKING POINTS: GOVERNOR SARAH PALIN <?: PREFIX = O />


  Governor Sarah Palin is a tough executive who has demonstrated during her time in office that she is ready to be president.  She has brought Republicans and Democrats together within her Administration and has seen approval ratings of over 80 percent.


  ·          She has challenged the influence of the big oil companies while fighting for the development of new energy resources.


  ·          She leads a state that matters to every one of us -- Alaska has significant energy resources and she has been a leader in the fight to make America energy independent.


  ·          She has actually used her veto and cut budgetary spending.  And she put a stop to the bridge to nowhere that would have cost taxpayers $400 million dollars.


  ·         In Alaska, she challenged a corrupt system and passed a landmark ethics reform bill.


  ·          As the head of Alaska's National Guard and as the mother of a soldier herself, Governor Palin understands what it takes to lead our nation and she understands the importance of supporting our troops.


Her experience in shaking up the status quo is exactly what is needed in Washington.


In choosing Governor Sarah Palin, John McCain put Washington on notice that he is serious about shaking up the status quo.


What we're seeing is a maverick who has shaken up Washington picking as his teammate a maverick governor who has shaken up her own state.


What it's going to take to change Washington is a team of Mavericks who have a record of accomplishment in shaking up the status quo.

Aug 30, 2008 10:22 pm

My question is, if Sarah Palin is not qualified, how is Barak Obama qualified?  You can say that Obama has an experienced mentor, but at this point, so does Palin and she's not in the #1 position.  I'm all for a spirited debate, and I expect one, but I'm most concerned about the decided lack of executive experience in one of our presidential candidates.

Aug 30, 2008 10:42 pm

BG-

What makes you so comfortable about Obama experience versus Palin?  Please be specific. 

Rugby

Aug 31, 2008 9:27 am

I can agree with Indy. Palin doesn't have the experience. However; it is the VP spot and not the President.


I felt exactally like Babs; this election wasn't exciting me until this announcement. I JUST LIKE Palin. And her likability jumps off the screen when you hear her speak, unlike H. Clinton, who was completely qualified.


The Republicans just nailed it (and I didn't vote for Bush).
 
Aug 31, 2008 9:36 am
 
 
We can start with something that is often mentioned as so important on this site; education. Obama graduated from Columbia with a degree in political science and earned a law degree from harvard where he graduated magna cum laude.
 
Palin earned a degree in jounalism from University of Idaho.
 
However, using George Bush's C minus college record as a guide, Palin's lightweight education credentials will probably work in her favor.
 
While Obama was busy leading a community service organzation, serving as a law profeesor, and then as a Illinios State Senator, Palin was busy running a snowmobile business with her husband and being a part time fisherman. The more I write about her, the more impressed i become!
 
Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate in 1996. By the way, Illinois has a population of almost 13,000,000 people. Obama was then elected to the U.S. Senate in 2004. Obama serves on the Foreign relations committee. He also serves on the committees for health , education,labor, and pensions as well as the committee for Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, and the committee for Veterans' Affairs. You might note that on his recent overseas trip he received a Presidential welcome where ever he went. There is no question he has the right stuff to repair our damaged foreign policys and restore our more severely damaged image. At this point in his presidential campaign, when compared to either George Bush or Bill Clinton on the eve of their first push for president, he has more foreign policy/foreign relations experience than both of them put together.
 
Palin was elected mayor of a small town of 5 to 8,000 people depending on sources, and then found her way to the Governor's office where she presides over a state with a population of 600,000. She has used the "But she's hot" view of her to cover for her lack of cred for most of her life including her ride to the governors office.
 
The truth is we don't know enough about her yet. We only know what the repub spin machine is putting out.
 
Still, there is enough to draw some conclusions. Chief among what is known is this: The repub right is big on hearth and family. The family values conservative right woman are supposed to put nurture above ambition. Woman,  are supposed to put family above all else. Here we have a woman who is being nominated for sainthood by the anti abortion right  for her decision to have a downs syndrome child. Something, I agree was a brave decision. Yet, now she going to leave that child for large swaths of time to run for the second highest office in the country. Clearly she is putting that child second to her own ambition. If elected, the requirements of the office will put that child as well as her entire family second. She is saying one thing and doing another. The hypocracy is glaring.
 
Then there is this about McCain: he has spent the last 2 months harping that Obama is ill equipped to face the challenges that face America today. Then what does he do? He picks a running mate that is obviously ill equipped to run the country.
 
Obama's experience can be debated. As mentioned, today he carries more foreign policy experience than either did Clinton or Bush prior to their first terms. And, he made a wise choice of running mate. Someone who helps him greatly on foriegn policy. That choice was presidential.  Or at least showed great leadership. By the way, I'm not  Biden fan. I think he's a JO. Back on McCain, considering his words downing Obama's lack of cred, his choice makes no sense. Not a presidential choice. In fact a dangerous choice that shows lack of judgement.
 
So with the republicans we have A woman telling us she puts her family first while clearly putting them second and a man who tell us we need experienced leaders while picking an inexpereinced person for a top leadership position. Since i don't own "Republican For Dummys," as the convention gets started this week, should I listen to what they say or watch what they do? Clearly, there is a vast expanse between the two.
 
Palin has no business being on the ticket, but she's hot!
 
 
 
 
 
This is not a debate between who is more qualified, Palin or Obama. Obama won't even mention Palin's name.