Obama win Nobel Prize
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Ron, Obama is great and Bush is bad because of things like Twitter and 100 TV channels and attention deficit disorder. Oh, yeah, people don’t believe in God any more, just their own logic.
Reagan was bad because he busted the air traffic controllers, not great because he busted the Berlin Wall. Since we don't believe in anything anymore, it's all just art. You get points for being clever and making, not for having courage and doing the hard thing. Here's proof: Obama's sucking up to corporations and unions. Do you see how the corporations that Obama sucked up to initially to get support for health care, are now saying, wait a minute, the new bill is not our "deal"? What do you think is going to happen to Detroit? UAW workers don't pay one dime for their health care - I sure many of us here are paying over $10,000 per year for family health care (unless you're not self employed). If Obama does not take a cue from Clinton and move to the center - quickly - the Peace Prize itself may look foolish. Bush is a hero, but I do wonder about any Republican who starts a war. Big difference between starting a war and say, going after the terrorists wherever they may be hiding. Going forward, history will increasingly favor Bush and expose Obama. And don't forget what "average" IQ means. Look at what the democracy cat dragged in from the oak tree. http://www.milyunair.com/Going forward, history will increasingly favor Bush and expose Obama.
With a nation of terds who believe in nothing and stand for nothing, how the hell are we supposed to give long term financial advice ?Care to elaborate the heavy partisan resistance line? He came into office with a great deal of support and a country looking for change from the Bush years. His party has control of the house and the senante. The opposing party was/is in disarray with absolutely no leadership. This doesn't seem to qualify as heavy partisan resistance.Not to run myself into the buzzsaw…
However, to be fair Obama hasn’t gotten a lot done because he has faced heavy partisan resistance. I believe he is a good man trying to accomplish a lot with good intentions.
It doesn’t matter what side you are on, there has been little substantive discussion, just a lot of scorched earth politics. For me, I would be elated if I could just have someone give me straight, objective information.
Stepping into the fray, I’ll start by telling those of you that don’t already know, I did not vote for Obama. Of the top ten candidates in the last election cycle, I honestly can’t think of one that was less qualified to hold the office. Experience was and is a concern of mine when we elect a man whose resume is thinner than the paper it is written on.
I'll go further and opine that the Nobel Peace Prize award is...well...premature, to put it mildly. I seriously doubt the people of Pakistan and Afghanistan would agree that Obama is worthy. This award has essentially turned the awarding of the Peace Prize into a speech contest and has cheapened what I used to view as a very high honor. No wonder several of the folks at the announcement actually booed the decision. Yes, I'll support my president and I certainly won't cheer his failure, but I don't know that I'll ever shake the suspicion that I could do a better job myself. That frankly scares me.Well he did graduate from Columbia and Harvard law so you can’t rip on him, or so says noggin
I definitely don’t think he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize, especially when the voting was complete in February, a month after he took office. Columbia and Harvard is pretty amazing but PEACE prize? Definitely not earned.
I’m not a big fan of some of his policies, especially when he bashes Wall Street and says people should be scientists and not investment bankers. However, to be fair, I do think he is a good man who does believe he is doing what he believes is right. Also, he’s getting criticism from the far left and the right; he’s trying to govern from the center as much as he can and whenever you do that, either side will always be unhappy. Last, I don’t think he’s getting the same respect from Americans as the POTUS as others before him have. Never did W get heckled by Dems like how he has. I think it also has to do that the Repubs have more balls than the Dems but disrespect is disrespect and is not cool.
Care to elaborate the heavy partisan resistance line? He came into office with a great deal of support and a country looking for change from the Bush years. His party has control of the house and the senante. The opposing party was/is in disarray with absolutely no leadership. This doesn't seem to qualify as heavy partisan resistance. [/quote][quote=SometimesNowhere] Not to run myself into the buzzsaw…
However, to be fair Obama hasn’t gotten a lot done because he has faced heavy partisan resistance. I believe he is a good man trying to accomplish a lot with good intentions.
It doesn’t matter what side you are on, there has been little substantive discussion, just a lot of scorched earth politics. For me, I would be elated if I could just have someone give me straight, objective information.
Anon, seriously? Again, I'm not an Obama fan but if Obama sneezes the wrong way, the Republicans are on the pounce. A month into his office, people were already saying that he's going to be a one term president. Now, I wasn't for the original bailout plan under Bush and Paulson and definitely was not for Obama's 700 billion plan but where were the protests from the right for the original? Now, a lot of Repubs voted against Bush's plan but you did not see protests in the street from the extreme right about govt spending and "we want our country back".
Ari Fleischer, former Bush Press Secretary, said he supported Obama's idea to try to bring the Olympics to the US and he said it was the right thing to do. But how many people cheered when they found out the US lost the bid? That's not partisan? We can argue all day that Chicago is probably not the best place for the Olympics but Atlanta still has good effects from having it there.
Also up fo’ consideration wuz Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Hugo Chávez, an’ Kim Jong Il
This world is mad stupid.
Care to elaborate the heavy partisan resistance line? He came into office with a great deal of support and a country looking for change from the Bush years. His party has control of the house and the senante. The opposing party was/is in disarray with absolutely no leadership. This doesn't seem to qualify as heavy partisan resistance. [/quote][quote=SometimesNowhere] Not to run myself into the buzzsaw…
However, to be fair Obama hasn’t gotten a lot done because he has faced heavy partisan resistance. I believe he is a good man trying to accomplish a lot with good intentions.
It doesn’t matter what side you are on, there has been little substantive discussion, just a lot of scorched earth politics. For me, I would be elated if I could just have someone give me straight, objective information.
Sure...
It appears to me (I am not a politician or a pundit, so I have to rely on what I see on the news for my information) that many Republicans are simply towing the party line by resisting anything that is presented as a solution by someone with a 'D' after their name. With that, I believe that Obama would genuinely like to garner popular support for any large shift in policy instead of just using his majority control. So he would like Republicans to contribute to these changes in policy (and some have). But for every one that has, there are three that come out on a talk show resisting a proposal, many of whom do not seem to be doing so in good faith with real objections.
As for Obama and the Democrats trying to to make the U.S. a more socialist nation, I have always found that to be (no offense meant by this) an inflammatory and nonsensical statement. I believe that all people are creatures of motivation. With that, what would be the motivation for some well-meaning Democrats (I want to distinguish, because I have a hard time hiding my contempt for Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, and Charlie Rangel) to create a "socialist" nation? I think it is hard to deny the statistical fact that the wealth gap between the richest and poorest in this nation is steadily growing. And that, frankly, is bad for our economy and even our (those that post here) livelihoods.
I voted Republican all my young life, and believe in many fiscally conservative tenets. However, I am disgusted that with our country in dire need of leadership and solutions, many Republicans would rather try to sink a president that doesn't have an R after his name rather than try to make real, long term changes. I, for one, will never vote for this Republican party again.
Sorry about the dissertation. You may commence in handing me my @$$ now...
On the bright side, we’ve only got 39 more months until we have a real President again.
Obama winning the award is a joke and disgrace. I no longer have respect for the award. Obama is destroying the american dream. America is suppose to be the place where dreams can happen for those who have a vision and work ethic to get somewhere. His vision is to spread to wealth to the lazy and underserving. How will this motivate those to strive for anything but a low paying government job if he will tax the difference. I wish I could have spent the prime of my career during the 80’s when hard working people had a voice in Washington. Mid term elections are coming soon, get out and vote for freedom and liberty.
I agree that Republicans are bashing everything that Obama does and trying to bring him down, but it is no different than what the Democrats did to Bush when things didn’t work immediately. The Bush bashing was much much worse because of the liberal sided media. The entire country, from sports radio to politics to hollywood is BASH EVERYTHING and STAND FOR NOTHING.
[quote=SometimesNowhere]It appears to me (I am not a politician or a pundit, so I have to rely on what I see on the news for my information) that many Republicans are simply towing the party line by resisting anything that is presented as a solution by someone with a ‘D’ after their name. With that, I believe that Obama would genuinely like to garner popular support for any large shift in policy instead of just using his majority control. So he would like Republicans to contribute to these changes in policy (and some have). But for every one that has, there are three that come out on a talk show resisting a proposal, many of whom do not seem to be doing so in good faith with real objections.
As for Obama and the Democrats trying to to make the U.S. a more socialist nation, I have always found that to be (no offense meant by this) an inflammatory and nonsensical statement. I believe that all people are creatures of motivation. With that, what would be the motivation for some well-meaning Democrats (I want to distinguish, because I have a hard time hiding my contempt for Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, and Charlie Rangel) to create a “socialist” nation? I think it is hard to deny the statistical fact that the wealth gap between the richest and poorest in this nation is steadily growing. And that, frankly, is bad for our economy and even our (those that post here) livelihoods.
I voted Republican all my young life, and believe in many fiscally conservative tenets. However, I am disgusted that with our country in dire need of leadership and solutions, many Republicans would rather try to sink a president that doesn’t have an R after his name rather than try to make real, long term changes. I, for one, will never vote for this Republican party again.
Sorry about the dissertation. You may commence in handing me my @$$ now…
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The Republican party today keeps shooting themselves in the foot. They’ve had their a$$es handed to them the past three elections, yet they continue to employ the same tactics. It just doesn’t make sense. Sure, they are energizing their “base”; but most people (especially undecided voters) don’t like it when a party puts politics before country.
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[quote=SometimesNowhere]It appears to me (I am not a politician or a pundit, so I have to rely on what I see on the news for my information) that many Republicans are simply towing the party line by resisting anything that is presented as a solution by someone with a ‘D’ after their name. With that, I believe that Obama would genuinely like to garner popular support for any large shift in policy instead of just using his majority control. So he would like Republicans to contribute to these changes in policy (and some have). But for every one that has, there are three that come out on a talk show resisting a proposal, many of whom do not seem to be doing so in good faith with real objections.
As for Obama and the Democrats trying to to make the U.S. a more socialist nation, I have always found that to be (no offense meant by this) an inflammatory and nonsensical statement. I believe that all people are creatures of motivation. With that, what would be the motivation for some well-meaning Democrats (I want to distinguish, because I have a hard time hiding my contempt for Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, and Charlie Rangel) to create a “socialist” nation? I think it is hard to deny the statistical fact that the wealth gap between the richest and poorest in this nation is steadily growing. And that, frankly, is bad for our economy and even our (those that post here) livelihoods.
I voted Republican all my young life, and believe in many fiscally conservative tenets. However, I am disgusted that with our country in dire need of leadership and solutions, many Republicans would rather try to sink a president that doesn’t have an R after his name rather than try to make real, long term changes. I, for one, will never vote for this Republican party again.
Sorry about the dissertation. You may commence in handing me my @$$ now…
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The Republican party today keeps shooting themselves in the foot. They’ve had their a$$es handed to them the past three elections, yet they continue to employ the same tactics. It just doesn’t make sense. Sure, they are energizing their “base”; but most people (especially undecided voters) don’t like it when a party puts politics before country.
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This is exactly what I’m saying. One Republican admitted that no matter what health care plan comes across the desk to sign, they will not go along with it. Another one said if they stop him on this, it will be his “Waterloo”. To say Obama isn’t trying to reach across the lines is nonsense. He put more opposition party members in his Cabinet than any other President. I don’t belong to either party so I actually try to listen to both sides and make up my mind about what makes sense. Too many people get stuck on party ideology and already make up their minds before the discussion even begins and it gets annoying.
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BREAKING NEWS: This just in!!! Obama wins the Heisman Trophy after watching a college football game!!![/quote]He also got a star on the hollywood walk of fame for the movies he will probably do someday!!! He's bigger than the juice!