Leaving advisorheads, coming back to RR
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Who else got tired of the bs in advisorhead forum. I am done with the site and coming back to where it all started RR, who else is with me? Let's make this forum good again, it is about the posters not the new web layout.
Those guys did a good job creating an alternative to RR. At first I thought Jones might actually allow their site in addition to this one. But with all of the "avatars" (ahem, soft porn), pics of the day, cussing, etc, Jones wouldn't touch it. They wouldn't even think twice about it.
But I agree, I'd like to keep improving this site and get it back to what it was before. Minus, of course, some of the software things I miss which I realize will not be coming back.
The problem was Biofreeze somehow starting getting info of other members and started outing them last night. I want nothing to do with this so I closed out my account. Ever since the members have been split into two different forums the overall quality is down for all discussions. I can at least trust RR that they will not release my email info to other members, can not say the same for advisorhea.
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The problem was Biofreeze somehow starting getting info of other members and started outing them last night. I want nothing to do with this so I closed out my account. Ever since the members have been split into two different forums the overall quality is down for all discussions. I can at least trust RR that they will not release my email info to other members, can not say the same for advisorhea.
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FWIW, the admins are not giving out anyone's info. They take the security and control of the site very seriously, and I wouldn't suggest that they are in any way compromising anyone's identity. Bio has caused a shitstorm over there, but I wouldn't use that as a reflection on the site.
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I visit both sites and neither have anything to offer. Who got outed?
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I was one of them, but there's nothing new about that. He's "outed" me before. Whatever you do, kiddies, don't ever call a certain Texas EIA salesman on the phone. That's the #1 way he gets your identity.
He's effectively killed another forum so I'll be spending more time over here now, thanks to that piker.
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I visit both sites and neither have anything to offer. Who got outed?
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I was one of them, but there's nothing new about that. He's "outed" me before. Whatever you do, kiddies, don't ever call a certain Texas EIA salesman on the phone. That's the #1 way he gets your identity.
He's effectively killed another forum so I'll be spending more time over here now, thanks to that piker.
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Not that there is anything wrong with that lifestyle (personally it's not for me), but if you've been outed why not just stay out? Besides, this is an internet forum so who really cares?
The other site got a little over the top for sure. I have kept posting on both, but probably prefer this one if activity picks up again.
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I was not trying to say that Mo or Ice were to blame, I think they are both good guys. I was not sure how Biofreeze was tracking down guys emails to pull up facebook, ect and find out who people were. What he did to Indyone and LSU was completely out of line. I just did not want anything to do with that site after I saw that happening, I have too much to lose. I just felt RR would be a more secure site to log in to in the future. It would be nice if the other guys gravitated back to this site and it became a solid learning experience again, that is why I am here. The other site became to much back and fourth and avatars that made me uncomfortable pulling up while working, who knows how much compliance really sees what we do on our computers.
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The other site became to much back and fourth and avatars that made me uncomfortable pulling up while working, who knows how much compliance really sees what we do on our computers.
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That's what I like about this site. There are limits to what they would allow to be on their pages. Even if I could pull up the other site on my Jones computer, I'd hate to be looking at that site with one of those avatars on the screen when my BOA came into my office. It wouldn't be like I'm opening an email someone sent or openly surfing for it, but the end result could be the same. It often doesn't take much for a woman to be offended and call HR with a sexual harrassment claim. There's a zero tolerance policy at Jones. I'm just not comfortable taking the risk.
So, while I prefer the setup over there, I prefer the access and comfort over here.
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B24
I was not trying to say that Mo or Ice were to blame, I think they are both good guys. I was not sure how Biofreeze was tracking down guys emails to pull up facebook, ect and find out who people were. What he did to Indyone and LSU was completely out of line. I just did not want anything to do with that site after I saw that happening, I have too much to lose. I just felt RR would be a more secure site to log in to in the future. It would be nice if the other guys gravitated back to this site and it became a solid learning experience again, that is why I am here. The other site became to much back and fourth and avatars that made me uncomfortable pulling up while working, who knows how much compliance really sees what we do on our computers.
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No, Ice & Morean are good guys and just got caught in the crossfire. I agree that what was done to me, and especially LSU, was over the top, but as far as security goes, there's no real magic in how our resident troll got the information. Several of us (including myself) he ID'd while running a forum and promising in the TOS not to "out" anyone. In the end, if you used his forum and didn't use an anonymous email address to register, it was easy for him to identify you and use that information later when it suited him. He even made reference once to having a notebook of such information. I would guess that most of the rest were ID'd either through careless clues left in posts (I've even seen guys sign posts with their real names), or through phone calls he's always inviting people to make. If you call him, you've just given up your ID even if you try to be careful and block your number, etc. Eventually, he'll gain your trust on the phone and you'll slip and say something that gives you up. I know because I've been in that position before with several of you who have called me for advice. I got a call once from a guy that to my knowledge, was very careful with his ID. Eventually, I had his first name...then his state...then his current firm. It was a piece of cake to ID him at that point. The point of this is, if you don't want someone to ID you, you definitely don't want to use a work email address or an email address with your name in it in a forum ran by that person and you don't want to call that person on the phone. With 90% of the posters here, giving your real ID is probably not going to harm you, but for the other 10%, you need to think what you are doing. Also, using your name (even a part of it) as your user ID is a bad idea.
Many of you know who I am. Some I've shared with voluntarily and others of you have learned it through the efforts of our resident troll. I'm OK with that as I've got nothing to hide. I run a clean, profitable practice, am generally a decent person, and enjoy helping people on these forums. That doesn't make me above occasionally giving some of you a hard time, mostly in jest. However, I assure you that I'm not here to treat anyone the way LSU, Ice Morean and I were treated by our troll. Where I usually get involved is defending someone I think is being treated poorly. Bullies don't like being stood up to and that's made me the occasional target of his attacks. In the end, these attacks are not nearly as scary as most of you envision unless you're hiding something and don't want to be exposed as a fraud, or you have a compliance department that would be unhappy with something you've posted here. Other than that, most of these threats are pretty harmless. Last night's threat was to call people from my church and tell them what a bad person I was on the internet. (insert laughter emoticon here) I told him to go ahead and smile and dial.
I've enjoyed participating on both forums and I plan on continuing to do so, assuming the other forum survives the planned transfer of control. Sure, there are a few questionable pictures and avatars over there, but there are decent people there as well as here and I've enjoyed forming relationships with several of you over the past five years. In the end, forums are a great place to blow off some steam and share valuable information. If the moderators remain as vigilant as they have over the past couple of days, the insanity should subside and we can get back to the business of helping each other and having a little fun in the process.
"Last night's threat was to call people from my church and tell them what a bad person I was on the internet."
Hahahahaha. I can just see him in his parent's dimly lit basement making anonymous calls to a church halfway across the country.
Bravo Biofreeze. A true professional.
No fireworks yet, although I am sure the troll is just waiting for an opportunity.