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Dec 19, 2009 8:07 pm

How far removed from Hurricane Katrina do we have to be before the media stops talking before every big Saints game about how they are "bringing the city back together" with their success ? ENOUGH !

Dec 19, 2009 9:20 pm
Ron 14:

How far removed from Hurricane Katrina do we have to be before the media stops talking before every big Saints game about how they are "bringing the city back together" with their success ? ENOUGH !





Get a life banker.

Dec 19, 2009 10:24 pm

I was in NO after Katrina as part of the task force charged with making sure looting didn't occur. This was sometime after I had returned from Iraq, but the experience was fresh in my mind.



I have never been more ashamed of my countrymen than the month I spent in New Orleans. You expect idiocy and laziness and weakness in the Middle East. You don't expect it from your own.



What a horrible sh!thole. I wish the Hurricane had destroyed the city completely.

Dec 19, 2009 10:30 pm

Thats a perspective that the average person would never even know about. The only news on the subject was the bashing of how Bush handled everything.

Dec 19, 2009 10:47 pm

Memorable quotes from NO.



"Damn hurricane blew all these porn tapes into my house. That dildo too", 'Grandpa' - a 70 -year old blind man who has won some awards as a street musician.



"Where's Oprah at soldja?!" Lady in a $40k SUV. "In Chicago I imagine," - Moraen "No, she sposed to be givin' $1000 to the first 100 people".



"I don't know who Jesse is that is stuck in the wall dead with bullets," Guy in the projects.



"When you guys gonna fix up my house?" says the guy who refused to take a job rebuilding from the contractor from Florida.



"I'm hungry and have no money," says the 300 pound lady sitting in front of Wendy's that has a sign on it that says, "Help Wanted: $100 for applying, $1000 for being hired. Hot meal". "Wendy's is hiring you fat B1tch!", says Copeland, the only black infantryman in my unit.



"I just saw the guy exchange money for a ziploc bag filled with a white substance," SFC Baker. "That's ok. Just continue to watch," NO police officer.



"Nah, all deese TVs is mine," man loading Uhaul up with six large screen TVs from a few different houses.



"I needs some food," man in brand new Jaguar in line at the Red Cross.



Dec 19, 2009 10:51 pm

Just unreal.

Dec 20, 2009 10:59 am

If you have ever been to New Orleans you'll understand why the Saints so important to the people of that city. I go down there each year for the Jazzfest and I can tell you, that city is hurting big time. It was always bad, but Katrina made it even worse.



Most of that city is very poor and the violence is everywhere. I went to the Saints/Pats game a month back and there was a shooting on the corner where my hotel was. 7 people got shot right near the French Quarter....not exactly the ghetto.



The Saints are a reason for the people to rally together. They wear their Saints gear every day of the week. After each win, they literally march through the streets.



I'm not sure that the Saints can "bring the city back together", but believe me they bring joy to the city and keep people down there on a positive note.



But yes, I am sick of all the hype too....I think after they got beat last night, that may calm down a bit.

Dec 20, 2009 11:17 am

I understand that sometimes civic pride can lift spirits. The reality is 2005, the year of Katrina, they were 3-13. Did that make things worse ? The following year they made the NFC title game and I could understand some of the Katrina talk then, but three seasons later ? The media did the same crap with Michigan St in the final four. Some dude from Ford who worked there for 35 years, just got the axe and can't move because his home is down in value 75% doesn't give a flying crap whether or not Sparty brings home a national title !!!

Dec 20, 2009 1:25 pm
Ron 14:

I understand that sometimes civic pride can lift spirits. The reality is 2005, the year of Katrina, they were 3-13. Did that make things worse ? The following year they made the NFC title game and I could understand some of the Katrina talk then, but three seasons later ? The media did the same crap with Michigan St in the final four. Some dude from Ford who worked there for 35 years, just got the axe and can't move because his home is down in value 75% doesn't give a flying crap whether or not Sparty brings home a national title !!!

 
same goes for september 11, enough already!!!
some people died, some buildings fell down and the president whored out their memory to start the war he really wanted.
 
Dec 20, 2009 2:52 pm
Billy Mays:
Ron 14:

I understand that sometimes civic pride can lift spirits. The reality is 2005, the year of Katrina, they were 3-13. Did that make things worse ? The following year they made the NFC title game and I could understand some of the Katrina talk then, but three seasons later ? The media did the same crap with Michigan St in the final four. Some dude from Ford who worked there for 35 years, just got the axe and can't move because his home is down in value 75% doesn't give a flying crap whether or not Sparty brings home a national title !!!



same goes for september 11, enough already!!!

some people died, some buildings fell down and the president whored out their memory to start the war he really wanted.





Sept. 11 we were attacked. Just like Dec. 7th. The part you left out was, "Terrorists crashed planes into buildings".



Katrina was a natural disaster that swamped an area that was already under sea level.



Don't try to compare the two, because they do not equate.

Dec 20, 2009 10:24 pm

As a native of Louisiana, I can tell you that anyone that feels sorry for New Orleans for the 'SHOCKING' collapse of the levy system doesn't know jack about the history of the city. Every 3 or so years a proposed tax increase would be talked about with the intent on fixing the levy system. Every 3 or so year that tax increase would be shot down by people saying the levy system was fine and that the city could/should spend money on more important issues. New Orleans has a great history but the city itself is a sh*thole. You can be on St. Charles street next to a multi-million dollar 1800's Mansion and go two blocks north or south and you are in sh*thole ghettos. The 9th ward and the Projects Desire were god-aweful and the city has been corrupt for over a century. I love Louisiana but have never liked New Orleans for the rampant racism (both by white and blacks) and the corruption. The entire city was to blame for the mess that occured with the levys with their inaction over the years.

Dec 23, 2009 8:27 am
Moraen:
Billy Mays:
Ron 14:

I understand that sometimes civic pride can lift spirits. The reality is 2005, the year of Katrina, they were 3-13. Did that make things worse ? The following year they made the NFC title game and I could understand some of the Katrina talk then, but three seasons later ? The media did the same crap with Michigan St in the final four. Some dude from Ford who worked there for 35 years, just got the axe and can't move because his home is down in value 75% doesn't give a flying crap whether or not Sparty brings home a national title !!!

 same goes for september 11, enough already!!!

some people died, some buildings fell down and the president whored out their memory to start the war he really wanted.  



Sept. 11 we were attacked. Just like Dec. 7th. The part you left out was, "Terrorists crashed planes into buildings".

Katrina was a natural disaster that swamped an area that was already under sea level.

Don't try to compare the two, because they do not equate.

 
I don't believe it was "terrorists":
 
Dec 7th was a strategic military decision
April 19th was CIA
Sept 11 was a collaboration with CIA and Saudi Intelligence
 
People who strive to rule (read: control) the world have little respect for human life - ours or theirs.
 
Dec 23, 2009 9:13 am

Here we go....

Dec 23, 2009 10:42 am
Billy Mays:
Moraen:
Billy Mays:
Ron 14:

I understand that sometimes civic pride can lift spirits. The reality is 2005, the year of Katrina, they were 3-13. Did that make things worse ? The following year they made the NFC title game and I could understand some of the Katrina talk then, but three seasons later ? The media did the same crap with Michigan St in the final four. Some dude from Ford who worked there for 35 years, just got the axe and can't move because his home is down in value 75% doesn't give a flying crap whether or not Sparty brings home a national title !!!

 same goes for september 11, enough already!!!

some people died, some buildings fell down and the president whored out their memory to start the war he really wanted.  



Sept. 11 we were attacked. Just like Dec. 7th. The part you left out was, "Terrorists crashed planes into buildings".

Katrina was a natural disaster that swamped an area that was already under sea level.

Don't try to compare the two, because they do not equate.

 
I don't believe it was "terrorists":
 
Dec 7th was a strategic military decision
April 19th was CIA
Sept 11 was a collaboration with CIA and Saudi Intelligence
 
People who strive to rule (read: control) the world have little respect for human life - ours or theirs.
 
 
Seriously??
 
I can get on board with the first comment, but the others just sound crazy to read out loud.
Dec 23, 2009 1:46 pm
chief123:
Billy Mays:
Moraen:
Billy Mays:
Ron 14:

I understand that sometimes civic pride can lift spirits. The reality is 2005, the year of Katrina, they were 3-13. Did that make things worse ? The following year they made the NFC title game and I could understand some of the Katrina talk then, but three seasons later ? The media did the same crap with Michigan St in the final four. Some dude from Ford who worked there for 35 years, just got the axe and can't move because his home is down in value 75% doesn't give a flying crap whether or not Sparty brings home a national title !!!

 same goes for september 11, enough already!!!

some people died, some buildings fell down and the president whored out their memory to start the war he really wanted.  



Sept. 11 we were attacked. Just like Dec. 7th. The part you left out was, "Terrorists crashed planes into buildings".

Katrina was a natural disaster that swamped an area that was already under sea level.

Don't try to compare the two, because they do not equate.

 
I don't believe it was "terrorists":
 
Dec 7th was a strategic military decision
April 19th was CIA
Sept 11 was a collaboration with CIA and Saudi Intelligence
 
People who strive to rule (read: control) the world have little respect for human life - ours or theirs.
 
 
Seriously??
 
I can get on board with the first comment, but the others just sound crazy to read out loud.
 
50 years ago, people would have said you sound crazy saying this about Dec 7th.
 
In 1995, private militias were rapidly growing in popularity. This was viewed as a threat to America. So, "they" found a patriotic soldier; someone who had no problem giving his life for anything his country asked. He committed the most attrocious act against children and government workers. His act was attributed to the militia movement - and suddenly, militias fell out of vogue.
 
In 2001, the neo-con movement was in power in Washington. They believed Clinton's views on collaboration, negotiation and discussion were bad for America. They believed America made a mistake leaving Iraq in 1991 and that we needed to re-enter and destroy Iraq to prove our military supremecy. The only problem was convincing the public to accept a bloody ground war.
 
At the same time, the Saudi Empire needed to start making plans for the eventual depletion of their oil reserves. Once the largest oil reserve in the world, the Saudi Arabian fields will probably only last 10-30 more years. And, 60 years of high-tech surveying has proven there is no more oil in Saudi Arabia. If the US controls Iraq, Saudi companies could stay in business providing field services right across the border in Iraq and continue providing oil for the US. 
 
Bin Laden is both American CIA and Saudi Royalty. He is probably in Saudi Arabia
 
More than half of the hijackers were Saudi Arabian.
 
Dec 23, 2009 3:20 pm

Oops, this conspiracy theory leaves out the rise of Islamic fundamentalism and the fact the the U.S. pays market prices for oil.


Bin Laden hates what your liberal Hollywood has done for his culture. An inconvenient truth. Maybe you're both just mouthy rich kids.

Dec 23, 2009 5:00 pm

Not too good with this editor.

Dec 23, 2009 5:24 pm
Milyunair:

Finally, to wrap in some thoughts from " We are delusional " and this thread.


Billy Mays, is it fun being a cynic? Isn't it ironic that some of the sacrifices since 9/11 (which in part defend the choice to act like a liberal cynic) are being lampooned on a forum of Registered Representatives?
 
What comes after experience, knowledge, and wisdom. For some, faith. With regard to some of us being in the business of selling and servicing our diverse ideas about capital management, the first duty is to protect that capital.
 
Only faith, which is an affirmation, can protect the capital of ideas, freedom, and personal and public wealth. If you're  not willing to go beyond yourself ( your own logic and safety), you'll never experience the joy of not wondering what to say or do.
 
But the corollary is not true, cynicism can't attack faith or capital. Therefore, and especially in a sales environment, cynicism is just annoying or has the effect of reducing productivity. In that regard, the effect is not to destroy capital, but to retard the formation of the capital of ideas and the efficient increase of assets under management.
 
The joy of this profession is that after a while our clients can see our faith ( in our work), and these relationships become transformed to an (almost) spiritual level. You just have to start noticing.
 
It's probably a matter of clarity and honesty. You probably don't really want to be an icon of cynicism, maybe you desire for experience and knowledge take you there, or maybe you are just trying to take shortcuts to faith.
 
Adversity is the seed of greatness. Maybe examine the adversity in your life, how has it been a blessing, are there various ways to interpret adversity? Mentally put yourself in a German concentration camp for a few hours on Christmas. How has the suffering of the Jews increased our humanity? How do outgoing  ACATS make us better advisors?
 
Dig deep and find your creativity. You don't really know that your cynical theory is true, and you may just be parroting someone else. Life can be short, but some say the mind lasts forever. You are obviously a leader. What is your (thought) contribution to humanity? Napolean Hill said, " Thoughts are things. " This  right here and now matter.
 
The great thing about what is happening in America right now is, we're in the process of rediscovering our strengths and weaknesses, and we're renewing our faith in ourselves. Collectively, we're going to start writing the next great chapter of struggle and triumph, failure and success, using the gift of free choice.
 
In my sixteen years in this business, 2010 is shaping up to be maybe an average market year, but one of the best years in my career to aquire new clients, and grow personally and professionally. I can feel it.
 
We should all consider playing hard and resting  hard over the coming days. Our clients, our families and America need to us to be sharp and motivated in January. Maybe we're a "chosen" profession, we just don't know it.
 
America is crying for leadership.  Who and where are the leaders? It's most of us. Maybe our motivation for 2010 starts with gratitude. I don't know.
 
All I can really do is have faith and check off the activities of my business plan for 2010.
 
Dec 23, 2009 6:14 pm
Billy Mays:
Sept 11 was a collaboration with CIA and Saudi Intelligence
 
 
 
 
OMFG, seriously? This explains so much about you.
Dec 23, 2009 9:58 pm

Wait a minute, weren't the twin towers imploded by the jews? Jews were told to stay home that day. The steel beams were broken as if a shape charge had been set, same as imploded buildings. And tests show that the fires in the twin towers, that had only burned a short time, were not hot enough to bring down the buldings. That, One Meridian Plaza in Philly, had survived a much hotter fire that burned for almost 24 hours. All proof that the collapse was an inside job. Why was it done? To hide the true identity of the second gunman in Dallas! But of course!