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Jan 29, 2010 6:08 pm

Anyone following the story of James O'Keefe? He's the guy who posed as a pimp and got ACORN to help him with his tax returns.



Just recently, he and 3 others got caught posing as phone repairmen at a senator's office. It is possible this was intended to be just a gag, but I think this guy is in some serious trouble.



I believe privacy is a serious concern for all politicians and if this guy can get off with what he did, it just opens the door for more people to try to do the same; or to do something more corrupt under the guise of a gag.



My prediction: O'Keefe gets 3 years.

Jan 29, 2010 6:50 pm

Actually, it wasn't tax returns. If you bothered to read anything other than the NY Times and MSNBC, you would know that he got five different ACORN offices to advise him (in most cases, enthusiastically) to help him set up child brothel. In the San Diego office, he indicated that the girls were currently being smuggled in a container and he and his partner Hannah Giles indicated to the man that they didn't expect some of them to survive. How could any person not immediately contact the police on the chance that their story was true? I would, but that's why supposedly I'm a Democrat - I want to help less fortunate people (like 15 year old child prostitutes) - not engage in class warfare with an "ends justify the means standard" of morality. 

 
Where is your sense of outrage at the behavior of the employees at FIVE different ACORN offices? The only disgrace is that ACORN is still a functioning organization and ideologues like you are so blinded by your radical liberalism that you can't even stop to think of all of the criminals they probably did help exploit, enslave and probably murder people. It's the same sort of warped thinking that drives (what I imagine is) your affection for Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro.
 
You think that "privacy is a serious concern for all politicians". What the hell does that mean?  By that standard Daniel Ellsberg should have been jailed for publishing the Pentagon Papers (as Richard Nixon argued). You think that politicians should be extended greater privacy rights or something? Why? Wasn't that the reason why so many were offended by the Cheney white house meetings with energy lobbyists? Didn't Obama and the Democrats campaign on greater transparency?
 
No damage was caused by Mr. O'keefe's stunt and if you want him get anything other than a slap on the wrist, then you simply want to see that investigative journalists who expose radical, leftist organizations intimidated. Clearly we need people like him because the leftist dominated media is so enthralled with the president that they can't criticize the Chicago style corruption that's come to dominate the current political discourse.
 
Shame on you.
Jan 29, 2010 6:56 pm

That sounds very hard to believe San Fran.

Jan 29, 2010 7:03 pm

www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-september-15-2009/the-audacity-of-hos





 
 
Jan 29, 2010 8:15 pm

San Fran, you got to lay off the hooch! My view is based on the fact that politicians bend the law every day. They won't tolerate anything that resembles wire-tapping. This is why they are going to make an example of him.



And how you sized me up as an MSNBC liberal, I will never know. You definitely need to lay off the peyote.



I'm sure we both agree that ACORN should not receive any federal money. But before I accuse them of aiding and abetting a child porn ring, I need to be convinced that the volunteers (who, by the way, are some of the dumbest people in America) believed this guy was telling the truth. I tend to think they knew he was being a comedian.



You've got to be hard-core to be a pimp in DC/Baltimore. This kid had manicured hands and a prep-school vernacular. I think it was a great take-down. But, not the smoking gun you think it is.

Jan 29, 2010 9:36 pm
Lawrence:

San Fran, you got to lay off the hooch! My view is based on the fact that politicians bend the law every day. They won't tolerate anything that resembles wire-tapping. This is why they are going to make an example of him.


You think that it's a good thing for politicians to "bend the law every day"? As far as I can tell, there's no evidence of wire tapping or attempted wire tapping. I do, actually, agree that this kid went too far, but you want him to go to prison (and apparently you want him to be sodomized in prison? [ ok that's a little harsh - just the title of your post.)
And I'll never lay off the hooch.

Lawrence:


And how you sized me up as an MSNBC liberal, I will never know. You definitely need to lay off the peyote.


I call them like I see them. MSNBC makes Fox News look like the inerrant word of god. Watching their inaccurate coverage of ACORN convinced me that they were hopelessly biased. My god... child prostitution? Really - how can you not want to beat the sh*** out of every one of these people who heard this and didn't immediately call the cops?
And I'll never lay off the peyote. Like heroin and cannabis, it's one of nature's flowers and because it comes from nature, it will always be good for me.

Lawrence:


I'm sure we both agree that ACORN should not receive any federal money.


Yes, we agree. I also think that ACORN should be treated like any criminal organization. I think that the group should be shut down and all the leaders perp walked and working at Albertsons' next year. The fact that it uses the cover of an anti-poverty organization is all the worse because it undermines the cause and most likely destroys resources that could be used to actually combat poverty.

Lawrence:


But before I accuse them of aiding and abetting a child porn ring, I need to be convinced that the volunteers (who, by the way, are some of the dumbest people in America) believed this guy was telling the truth. I tend to think they knew he was being a comedian.


Not volunteers - employees. Employed with our tax dollars.  "Getting out the vote". "Gathering data for the census". So damn scary.
In five offices - none of them seemed to doubt their story. You can check it out for yourself every unedited video and read every transcript at biggovernment.com/acorn/.  You're right - these people are stupid, and ignorant, but what they thought they had was a young, white college kid who had decided to pursue a life of crime and politics. (Not unlike Blago.)
They saw him as a potential ally and tool. They also seemed to see the purpose of ACORN as to perpetuate crime of all kinds - regardless of how evil that crime was. It was a public service from their perspective.
Let me say it again - child prostitution. In every case they gave that exact story and not one of these people called the police. None of them? Really - little girls are going to die in a shipping container (San Diego) or if they make it be forced into prostitution and you don't call the cops? Really? Really?

Lawrence:


You've got to be hard-core to be a pimp in DC/Baltimore. This kid had manicured hands and a prep-school vernacular. I think it was a great take-down. But, not the smoking gun you think it is.


You're on the wrong side of history on this one man. People defended Hoffa all the way to the end as well (some still do). This is the Alger Hiss of the 2000s.

Jan 29, 2010 10:10 pm

Let me say this, I find NPR, Fox News, MSNBC and Limbaugh all to be offensive. I can't watch/listen to any of them for more than 30 seconds.



You may be right on the other stuff...I have neither the time nor desire to do my homework on this one. Now, if you'll excuse me, my hydroponic garden in the attic needs tending to...

Jan 29, 2010 10:56 pm

People are really funny tonight.