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Feb 19, 2009 7:40 am

I read where Nancy Pelosi met with the Holy See yesterday.



I'm curious...what national interests of the United States are being served by the Speaker of the House traveling to Vatican City via Rome to confer with His Holiness? While our Congress and administration seem to be on a witch hunt regarding executive compensation and perks, perhaps rightly so, why is no one questioning this little junket? Are things here at home so firmly under control that Madam Speaker can turn her attention elsewhere?



Just a thought........

Feb 19, 2009 10:34 am

Probably something to do with the abnormal number of pedophile priests that reside in CA. It seems that per capita, that state has to lead the Union. Just another 'necessary' expenditure in an era of 'fiscal responsibility'.

Feb 19, 2009 10:43 am

The pope called her on the carpet for being a Catholic Democrat who believes in abortion.  That whole phrase just sounds stupid.  And is indicitive of the reason our country is going to pot. 

 
He put it to her in no uncertain terms that the Catholic church does in fact have an opinion on when life begins.  She evidently has been a very outspoken voice in the pro-choice camp.  Made some stupid comment about the Catholic church not really knowing when life begins.  So, the pope invited her to the Vatican to set the record straight. 
 
The woman is a complete idiot.  It's a shame that our country is being run by a bunch of people just like her. 
Feb 19, 2009 11:18 am
Philo Kvetch:

I read where Nancy Pelosi met with the Holy See yesterday.



I'm curious...what national interests of the United States are being served by the Speaker of the House traveling to Vatican City via Rome to confer with His Holiness? While our Congress and administration seem to be on a witch hunt regarding executive compensation and perks, perhaps rightly so, why is no one questioning this little junket? Are things here at home so firmly under control that Madam Speaker can turn her attention elsewhere?



Just a thought........




Good to see you, Philo. I'm sure your question was rhetorical since Nazi Pelosi does nothing unless it serves HER interests. She went looking for a photo op and didn't get one.

Feb 19, 2009 11:34 am

Spaceman Spiff:

The pope called her on the carpet for being a Catholic Democrat who believes in abortion.  That whole phrase just sounds stupid.  And is indicitive of the reason our country is going to pot. 

 
He put it to her in no uncertain terms that the Catholic church does in fact have an opinion on when life begins.  She evidently has been a very outspoken voice in the pro-choice camp.  Made some stupid comment about the Catholic church not really knowing when life begins.  So, the pope invited her to the Vatican to set the record straight. 
 
The woman is a complete idiot.  It's a shame that our country is being run by a bunch of people just like her. 


...AGREED
Feb 19, 2009 3:15 pm
Spaceman Spiff:

The pope called her on the carpet for being a Catholic Democrat who believes in abortion.  That whole phrase just sounds stupid.  And is indicitive of the reason our country is going to pot. 

 
He put it to her in no uncertain terms that the Catholic church does in fact have an opinion on when life begins.  She evidently has been a very outspoken voice in the pro-choice camp.  Made some stupid comment about the Catholic church not really knowing when life begins.  So, the pope invited her to the Vatican to set the record straight. 
 
The woman is a complete idiot.  It's a shame that our country is being run by a bunch of people just like her. 
 
I doubt that he asked her to visit...a very public Papal Bull would have been far more effective.
 
As to Madam Speaker and her ilk being complete idiots, you're preachin' to the choir Brother!  Amen!  (I wonder why the press never made hay of the fact that her approval ratings were far lower than President's Bush's were at their lowest.)
Feb 19, 2009 3:46 pm

Now that congress is out of session it's fact finding time. That means its time to take a vacation on the tax payers dime. Just so you know at least one news agency is calling lawmakers on the carpet. I think it was reporter for ABC who cornered one of the senate or house members who is on a junket to Paris, Vienna, and Rome, asking why they and their wives were flying on Air Force Corporate jets when they at the same time lambasted auto execs for flying private. The lawmaker arrogantly shooed the reporter away saying they were on important government business. So important in fact,  that they had to bring their wives and spent Valentines day in Paris. Hmmm?

 
The reporter then cornered another lawmaker to ask about an airfare bill for a January flight to England for $14000. They then showed footage of this clown putting it to the auto guys for flying their private jets telling them that he only flys commercial. With bill in hand the reporter asked the lawmaker about the flight to England. At first he said he hadn't been to England. When confronted with the bill for first class round trip tickets for $14,000 he said he din't make the reservations and walked away.
 
I read this recently. There are 300,000,000 of us. But only 545 people control our government. That's 435 congressman, 100 senators, one prez and nine supreme court justices. We have no power and they have all the power. Everything that is right or wrong in this country is directly their doing. For better or worse. It would make one wonder, if they are against things like deficits, then why do we have them? They're all against the Alternative Minimum Tax, yet it still exists. And the list goes on.
 
With power comes arrogance. Arrogance to say "Do as i say not as I do." The double standard with these guys never ceases to amaze. I'm with Will Rogers on this. He said "Thank god we're not getting all the government we're paying for." Smart guy that Will Rogers. Ahead of his time.
 
Feb 19, 2009 4:02 pm

So, where do we line up for the pitchforks and torches?

Feb 19, 2009 5:18 pm

2wheeledbeemer,

pitchforks and torches? do you think this is france? We use semi-automatic "assault" rifles and handguns in this damned country. If we're going to do it, we gotta do it right. {/sarcasm}

Feb 19, 2009 6:03 pm
BondGuy:

Now that congress is out of session it's fact finding time. That means its time to take a vacation on the tax payers dime. Just so you know at least one news agency is calling lawmakers on the carpet. I think it was reporter for ABC who cornered one of the senate or house members who is on a junket to Paris, Vienna, and Rome, asking why they and their wives were flying on Air Force Corporate jets when they at the same time lambasted auto execs for flying private. The lawmaker arrogantly shooed the reporter away saying they were on important government business. So important in fact,  that they had to bring their wives and spent Valentines day in Paris. Hmmm?

 
The reporter then cornered another lawmaker to ask about an airfare bill for a January flight to England for $14000. They then showed footage of this clown putting it to the auto guys for flying their private jets telling them that he only flys commercial. With bill in hand the reporter asked the lawmaker about the flight to England. At first he said he hadn't been to England. When confronted with the bill for first class round trip tickets for $14,000 he said he din't make the reservations and walked away.
 
I read this recently. There are 300,000,000 of us. But only 545 people control our government. That's 435 congressman, 100 senators, one prez and nine supreme court justices. We have no power and they have all the power. Everything that is right or wrong in this country is directly their doing. For better or worse. It would make one wonder, if they are against things like deficits, then why do we have them? They're all against the Alternative Minimum Tax, yet it still exists. And the list goes on.
 
With power comes arrogance. Arrogance to say "Do as i say not as I do." The double standard with these guys never ceases to amaze. I'm with Will Rogers on this. He said "Thank god we're not getting all the government we're paying for." Smart guy that Will Rogers. Ahead of his time.
 
 
We do have power.   We have the power to vote.  The problem is the media doesn't show us what slimebags these guys/gals are.  People don't think for themselves or do any research on the candidates.  People vote singular issues instead of looking at a candidate as a whole.  The listen to the left wing nut balls or the right wing nut balls.  People are sheep, they are easily led.  Therefore these people stay in office and yes have all the power.  I'm with you on the Congress.  I am so sick of the bi-partisan bullshit.  How many in Congress didn't get paid while they were playing the political game of adding pork and cutting taxes and voting along party lines while thousands of Americans lost their jobs. 
Feb 19, 2009 6:05 pm

I meant partisan bullshit. 

Feb 19, 2009 6:51 pm

Well said my friends.



I, however, don't fear an armed rebellion. I don't think it would happen here. What I do fear is far more insidious. Consider the day when a significant number of our fellow taxpayers finally say, "New laws and regs from Congress? Got nothing to do with me. No, I'm not giving any more in any kind of tax". Government, at that point becomes marginalized and non-effective. No more entitlement programs. Camps would have to be established to hold the tremendous numbers of citizens who refuse to fund a government that they don't support.



This is the stuff of nightmares about our beloved United States.

Feb 19, 2009 7:21 pm
Philo Kvetch:

Well said my friends.



I, however, don't fear an armed rebellion. I don't think it would happen here. What I do fear is far more insidious. Consider the day when a significant number of our fellow taxpayers finally say, "New laws and regs from Congress? Got nothing to do with me. No, I'm not giving any more in any kind of tax". Government, at that point becomes marginalized and non-effective. No more entitlement programs. Camps would have to be established to hold the tremendous numbers of citizens who refuse to fund a government that they don't support.



This is the stuff of nightmares about our beloved United States.





In theory, that refusal to pay the vig to Our Annointed Ones could render the machine paralyzed. However, in practice, could we even begin to do that? How do we all get paid? In Gold Eagles, or even in cash? Prolly not. I would venture to say that most of us don't even have the option of being issued a physical paycheck, but have to get it all electronically deposited. How do you 'rise up' if the only physical influence you have over your pay and taxes comes with a pathetic bloop, bleep, bloop at the blind, gaping eye of the ATM. We have been emasculated of our true wealth as a society slowly, but effectively, and have very little true understanding of how the concepts of currency, money, pay and tax interact.

Feb 19, 2009 8:03 pm
2wheeledbeemer:
Philo Kvetch:

Well said my friends.



I, however, don't fear an armed rebellion. I don't think it would happen here. What I do fear is far more insidious. Consider the day when a significant number of our fellow taxpayers finally say, "New laws and regs from Congress? Got nothing to do with me. No, I'm not giving any more in any kind of tax". Government, at that point becomes marginalized and non-effective. No more entitlement programs. Camps would have to be established to hold the tremendous numbers of citizens who refuse to fund a government that they don't support.



This is the stuff of nightmares about our beloved United States.





In theory, that refusal to pay the vig to Our Annointed Ones could render the machine paralyzed. However, in practice, could we even begin to do that? How do we all get paid? In Gold Eagles, or even in cash? Prolly not. I would venture to say that most of us don't even have the option of being issued a physical paycheck, but have to get it all electronically deposited. How do you 'rise up' if the only physical influence you have over your pay and taxes comes with a pathetic bloop, bleep, bloop at the blind, gaping eye of the ATM. We have been emasculated of our true wealth as a society slowly, but effectively, and have very little true understanding of how the concepts of currency, money, pay and tax interact.







What happens when employees put down for 25 dependents on their withholding form? Or when employers finally say to the IRS, "I'm not your accountant or collector. Get it yourself!" What about business owners who file quarterly? How about property taxes? Then there's the barter system...the mechanic says to the landscaper, "I'll fix your car if you'll mow my lawn for a year." The possibilities are quite numerous.