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Nov 5, 2008 6:42 am

I suppose this is how the decent people in Germany felt when Hitler won
the election with soaring rhetoric that was so vauge that the dimwits
who voted for him heard whatever they wanted to hear.



History is littered with men who rose to power on their ability to motivate the masses with empty promises.



My brother emailed me a moment ago.  His take is that it's like a
family that was taken over by the kids who decided to replace the
parents with the guy who mows the lawn because he told them they could
stay up late and eat ice cream.



You've probably seen the YouTube video of the sistah telling the
reporter that she was voting for Barack because when he be president he
be gonna pay her rent and  buy her gasoline.



She seriously believes that because the message was so vague that what
he was saying could be interpreted as whatever the listener wanted to
hear.



I really feel sorry for you young guys.  I'm old, I've outrun
it.  But if I were less than sixty I'd be damn upset, and the
younger I was the more upset I'd be.



There is nothing about Socialism and Marxist economics that bodes well for your future.



Those of you who voted for him should be ashamed of yourselves--you should have much more self respect.



You should have listened to what he was saying, instead of how he was saying it.

Nov 5, 2008 9:41 am

Amen.  A sad sad day for Democracy as we know it.  I am scared beyond belief what is happening.  The sob's on the Today show couldn't contain themselves...all I could think is "I hope you losers get whats coming".  I hope New York doesn't get nuked, but I could live with Philadelphia going up in smoke...and then Obama can come on tv and say..well..we deserved it..we need to change...let this be a reminder of how terrible Americans have been. Thanks to the extreme terrorist in showing us how terrible the greatest country in the world has been.  Oh..we are implementing a 2 day work week for all the poor, and we will force employers to pay for 40 hrs a week.  Even Hitler didn't have it this good...

Nov 5, 2008 9:55 am
Provocative Put:

I suppose this is how the decent people in Germany felt when Hitler won the election with soaring rhetoric that was so vauge that the dimwits who voted for him heard whatever they wanted to hear.

 
If any argument starts with an anolgy to Hitler you've already lost. There is nothing similar with Obama and Hitler. You lose.

History is littered with men who rose to power on their ability to motivate the masses with empty promises.
 
It is also littered with people with bad attitudes that cannot accept defeat and support the government. If you choose not to support our government, are you then an anarchist?

My brother emailed me a moment ago.  His take is that it's like a family that was taken over by the kids who decided to replace the parents with the guy who mows the lawn because he told them they could stay up late and eat ice cream.
 
Obviously if those children endured 8 years of abuse by their parents and the guy who mows the lawn is selected to be their foster parent, they may and probably will have a better life.

You've probably seen the YouTube video of the sistah telling the reporter that she was voting for Barack because when he be president he be gonna pay her rent and  buy her gasoline.
 
And maybe resolve our crisis created by the Republicans and help her find one of those jobs moving back from overseas.

I really feel sorry for you young guys.  I'm old, I've outrun it.  But if I were less than sixty I'd be damn upset, and the younger I was the more upset I'd be.
 
Well then, go ahead and die and let us who want to live in a better world go on to succeed with a positive message in a world shaped by those that want to be united in a country governed by those that want change.

There is nothing about Socialism and Marxist economics that bodes well for your future.
 
4 more years of Bush policies would be better?? We already live in a Socialist government. We need someone like Obama to fine tune what is broken and resolve the walls that separate us as a country.

Those of you who voted for him should be ashamed of yourselves--you should have much more self respect.
 
I personally have never been prouder of our country and our democracy. We elected the right man for the times and a president with morals and a positive outlook on our future. You need to try to support our government and get off you negative soapbox. We will only succeed if we support our future president and not continue to tear down our country into a fiscal, social, and environmental disaster.

You should have listened to what he was saying, instead of how he was saying it.
 
I heard every word and other that Ronald Reagan, I dont believe I have ever heard a more positive message in my life. The only way we as a country will not succeed is if a certain portion of the populace refuses to support the government. 
Nov 5, 2008 10:29 am

I have to say I completely disagree with Put. Knock off the Hitler nonsense and grow up. Your guy (my guy) lost, it isn't the end of the world. We survived Carter (and it was much worse than things are today), we'll survive Carter 2.0. Demonstrate to the kids what adult, constructive, loyal opposition looks like. That’s your new mission.<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />


 


OTOH, I'm really in no mood for lectures from tedious little cretins who spout nonsense like "8 years of abuse by their parents" and "our crisis created by Republicans" either. You can’t use the loaded (and highly inaccurate, if you think Bush “created” the issue of jobs moving overseas, or think the last eight years amounted to abuse, you display a naiveté about life in the real world that causes me to fear for your mental health when you learn that since presidents don’t control the world, Obama isn’t going to be able to give you what you think you’ll be getting) childish language of the disloyal opposition of the last eight years to encourage different behavior from others.


 


I’ll tell you this much, I’m proud of our peaceful process of transition of power. I’m proud our nation proved we’re beyond race (I expect to see Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton looking for a new line of work soon. The days of “Poverty Pimp” as an occupation are over). I’m proud of the character of both men that ran for the presidency even as I’m disappointed with some of each of their teams and followers. I will NOT have a bumper sticker that says “not my president” as so many on the other side had the last eight years. I won’t be a party to childishness like trying to name a sewage disposal plant after the president. I won’t be part of any mirror image of the nasty, over the top ridicule we witnessed the last eight years from people who should know better. I won’t hesitate to have a flag in my front yard, as some have these last eight years, because I fear it will be seen as support of the administration.


 


I want Obama to find success, even where I strongly disagree with him, because I want <?: prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />America to be successful.

Nov 5, 2008 10:38 am
CreditOnion:
Provocative Put:

I suppose this is how the decent people in
Germany felt when Hitler won the election with soaring rhetoric that
was so vauge that the dimwits who voted for him heard whatever they
wanted to hear.


 
If any argument starts with an anolgy to Hitler you've already lost. There is nothing similar with Obama and Hitler. You lose.






Only fools who are ignorant of history would think that references to Hitler are anything
other than comments on mass hysteria.





CreditOnion:
 
4 more years of Bush policies would be
better?? We already live in a Socialist government. We need someone
like Obama to fine tune what is broken and resolve the walls that
separate us as a country.






An intelligent observer would not bother to
trott out the "More of Bush policies" crap.  Senator McCain is
just as different from President Bush as anybody.



It is not necessary to vote for change--the world changes.



What we need is a president who has at least one qualification to be
the President--not a former community organizer who was chosen by the
Chicago machine because he is, at his core, dishonest.  That
machine destroyed a sitting state senator so he could have her
seat.  He was elected to the US Senate by accident when highly
favored GOP candidate imploded in a spectacular personal flame out
leaving the Democrat running unopposed.



What would be fun is for somebody like to you to tell us which of the
Bush era policies you disagree with, and how you see President Obama
being different.  Care to give it a try?



Nov 5, 2008 10:41 am
greyhairedbrker:




I
expect to see Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton looking for a new line of
work soon. The days of “Poverty Pimp” as an occupation are over.









Not at all.  They're already saying that since Obama has no "Slave
Blood" that he is nothing more than an accident in history.

Nov 5, 2008 11:18 am
greyhairedbrker:

I have to say I completely disagree with Put. Knock off the Hitler nonsense and grow up. Your guy (my guy) lost, it isn't the end of the world. We survived Carter (and it was much worse than things are today), we'll survive Carter 2.0. Demonstrate to the kids what adult, constructive, loyal opposition looks like. That’s your new mission.


 


OTOH, I'm really in no mood for lectures from tedious little cretins who spout nonsense like "8 years of abuse by their parents" and "our crisis created by Republicans" either. You can’t use the loaded (and highly inaccurate, if you think Bush “created” the issue of jobs moving overseas, or think the last eight years amounted to abuse, you display a naiveté about life in the real world that causes me to fear for your mental health when you learn that since presidents don’t control the world, Obama isn’t going to be able to give you what you think you’ll be getting) childish language of the disloyal opposition of the last eight years to encourage different behavior from others.


 


I’ll tell you this much, I’m proud of our peaceful process of transition of power. I’m proud our nation proved we’re beyond race (I expect to see Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton looking for a new line of work soon. The days of “Poverty Pimp” as an occupation are over). I’m proud of the character of both men that ran for the presidency even as I’m disappointed with some of each of their teams and followers. I will NOT have a bumper sticker that says “not my president” as so many on the other side had the last eight years. I won’t be a party to childishness like trying to name a sewage disposal plant after the president. I won’t be part of any mirror image of the nasty, over the top ridicule we witnessed the last eight years from people who should know better. I won’t hesitate to have a flag in my front yard, as some have these last eight years, because I fear it will be seen as support of the administration.


 


I want Obama to find success, even where I strongly disagree with him, because I want America to be successful.



Grey - I agree completely, and I couldn't have said it any better, so I'll just say +1.

I have concerns about his experience and as well about whether I can trust him to tell the truth.  It's also my opinion that he's quite a bit to the left of my preference, and I fear he may prove himself to be farther to the left than the American public realized too.

But, he ran a good campaign and we have a process that has worked for over 200 years.  Clearly he was able to reach a nerve with the American people and the Grand Old Party failed miserably at the same effort.  So now the election is over, and we owe it to him to give him a chance to keep his promises to seek positive change and to govern from the middle.  If he fails, we all know there will be mid-term elections coming around the corner, and once again we'll have a chance to voice our opinion in the voting booth.

John McCain is an honorable man and an American hero.  We're lucky to have him in the Senate, and yes he was my choice in this election.   I think he did his best under the circumstances.  Frankly, I'm profoundly disappointed in the Republican establishment and our sitting President and (soon to be former in some cases) GOP legislators.  When you look at how they've allocated our tax money in the last few years on earmarks, they've hardly been acting like conservatives.  Their wasteful spending is a major factor that set the stage for last night's results.  Too, they've allowed themselves to become prisoners to a small group of radicals in the 'religious right'.  I'm a churchgoing man, but I don't necessarily believe I have the right to impose my belief system on everyone else.

I think regarding these two issues above in particular, the GOP has strayed from its original values, and frankly I'm wondering if a 'third party' is a better choice for me, even if it means that I am not likely to have my 'horse' in the running when it comes to the big races.

Nov 5, 2008 11:49 am

My favorite part of the whole night was in Obama's speech, when he said:  (I don't remember the exact quote, but it's pretty darn close.)

 
"... we can make these changes with your service and sacrifices."  
 
And the crowd was silent as if to say, "Wait a minute, we have to do something?  I thought you were going to fix everything and give us more money."
Nov 5, 2008 11:53 am

I agree the Republicans have totally screwed things up...you can't have the words conservative and Republican in the same sentence anymore.  I liked Rove's comments about having the Republicans sit on the sides for awhile and see what plays out with Obama.  The Dems WILL shoot themselves in the foot...but the Republican leadership needs kicked to the curb and new, back to basic Republicans need to lay the groundwork for a return to making this country strong, less taxes and less government.  This is a wakeup call..answer the phone.

Nov 5, 2008 11:59 am
Provocative Put:
greyhairedbrker:



I expect to see Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton looking for a new line of work soon. The days of “Poverty Pimp” as an occupation are over.





Not at all.  They're already saying that since Obama has no "Slave Blood" that he is nothing more than an accident in history.

 
Does it really matter what anyone's saying at this point? McCain was my pick, but he couldn't pull it off.
 
It's over. Finished. Done.
 
Get back to telling your ghost stories about how we're all going to be sued. That was far more interesting reading.
Nov 5, 2008 2:28 pm
Such a great song.  Here are some lyrics I thought might be appropriate today:
 
"So Bye, Bye Miss American Pie..."  
"Lennon read a book on Marx..."
"Oh, and as I watched him on the stage, my hands were clenched in fists of rage"
"I met a girl who sang the blues and I asked her for some happy news, but she just smiled and turned away"
"And while the king was looking down, the jester stole his thorny crown"
 
and the one I hope doesn't happen
 
"The birds flew off of the fallout shelter, eight miles high and falling fast"
 
But perhaps we should be reminded of some better lyrics:
 

"If tomorrow all the things were gone,
I’d worked for all my life.
And I had to start again,
with just my children and my wife.


I’d thank my lucky stars,
to be livin here today.
‘ Cause the flag still stands for freedom,
and they can’t take that away.


And I’m proud to be an American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.


And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘ Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA."


We still live in the greatest country in the world.  It transcends politics.  There hasn't been a president yet who has been so inept that he has destroyed this great country.   While I may chuckle a bit when I hear "Hail to the Chief" for the next four years, I'll still stand with honor when I hear the national anthem. 
 
 
Nov 5, 2008 2:30 pm

Ok, the Hitler thing is a bit much, I'm with ole Greyhair on this one.  Yeah, lifes about to take a turn but we're not exactly coming out of a rose garden ... don't get me wrong I hate the liberal agenda more than anyone but we need to make light of a bad situation.

 
I still think there should be a mandatory pre-voting aptitude test.
... uggg there's always 2012
Nov 5, 2008 2:50 pm

I wonder how many voters from Harlem are outraged today to find out that Sarah Palin is NOT the VP-elect?

 
(...for those of you who missed this classic...)
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU
 
Nov 5, 2008 3:15 pm

That link was hilarious...

Nov 5, 2008 5:39 pm

that could happen anywhere with any candidate.  That is why we have a representative democracy.  We ask people to vote for who they would be comfortable making decisions for them. 

Nov 5, 2008 7:15 pm

Perhaps the republican party will rebound when they stop fixating on gays, abortion, and praising Jesus???

Nov 5, 2008 7:27 pm
Indyone:

I wonder how many voters from Harlem are outraged today to find out that Sarah Palin is NOT the VP-elect?

 
(...for those of you who missed this classic...)
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU
 



wow....all I can say is wow.....

Nov 5, 2008 7:32 pm

Provocative thread PP.  And that's all it is.

Nov 5, 2008 9:11 pm

I'll leave the eloquent responses to PP's post to the rest of you.
The only thing i can say is, what an idiot. Please tell me you were not really a leader in our industry before you went out to pasture.

Nov 5, 2008 9:19 pm

Peggy the moocher meet Joe the plumber.....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=381gFG4Crr8