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Jun 7, 2007 11:43 pm

Looking to build off of yesterday's momentum, I had a sh*tty day.

One canceled appointment (to be rescheduled), one no show (more on this fuk later), a crying baby, blown off by a certified order taking loser male HR manager, ACAT reject and didn't get any calls done.

The cancelled appointment is what it is. can't change that. It'll be rescheduled. More than anything it's an opportunity to meet other people because the actual prospect is not likely to have many investable assets (I wish I'm wrong...).

The no show appointment was confirmed earlier in the week. When he was 20 minutes late I called his cell phone. Not only did he not answer, he didn't call back. I'm not offended it he doesn't want to do business, just don't stand me and/or keep me waiting in a f**king restaurant for 45 minutes. I stayed because the prospect has over 1.5MM in investable assets. He is a family friend and expressed interest in meeting. i set the time/date, he agreed. WTF? Maybe there is a good reason, but F.U. for blowing me off like that.

Went to go get my hair cut. Took forever and made me late getting back to the office. Worst part? My sister shows up with her daughter. She is getting a manicure and begs me to watch the baby. "It won't take more than 30 minutes..." Seeing as how I'm already late and hungry, I say okay and go next store to get a bit. The baby proceeds to cry, non stop, for the next 45 minutes - the amount of time it took to get my sisters nails done.

Before going to the office, I decide to stop off at a company that has and is still laying off a bunch of people. I spoke with an employee (previously) about rolling over her 401k and asked who at the office would I speak to - to intercept other laid off employees about rollover options. I got a name. Stopped by to see him (unannounced) and the piece of sh*t blow me off. I don't mind that, so long as its someone who knows what the fuk I'm talking about. Clearly this was over his head and he had no other way to save face that to say, "No".

Going back to the office I'm trying to merge onto the freeway in traffic. A semi lets me in only for some jackass hillbillie in a lifted Chevy to nearly ram my rear end as he merges from the fast lane into the off ramp. Then he freaks out at me.

Finally, I've been working on an ACAT for about $20K. No big deal. It was rejected a week ago. the SA's in my office didn't follow up with the back office on the why it was rejected. WTF are they there for?

As you can see, none of this is a big deal. The no-show appointment really pissed me off. Everything else isn't a big deal. Tomorrow will be better for sure. just venting

Jun 7, 2007 11:56 pm

[quote=707SE]

Looking to build off of yesterday's momentum, I had a sh*tty day.

One canceled appointment (to be rescheduled), one no show (more on this fuk later), a crying baby, blown off by a certified order taking loser male HR manager, ACAT reject and didn't get any calls done.

The cancelled appointment is what it is. can't change that. It'll be rescheduled. More than anything it's an opportunity to meet other people because the actual prospect is not likely to have many investable assets (I wish I'm wrong...).

The no show appointment was confirmed earlier in the week. When he was 20 minutes late I called his cell phone. Not only did he not answer, he didn't call back. I'm not offended it he doesn't want to do business, just don't stand me and/or keep me waiting in a f**king restaurant for 45 minutes. I stayed because the prospect has over 1.5MM in investable assets. He is a family friend and expressed interest in meeting. i set the time/date, he agreed. WTF? Maybe there is a good reason, but F.U. for blowing me off like that.

Went to go get my hair cut. Took forever and made me late getting back to the office. Worst part? My sister shows up with her daughter. She is getting a manicure and begs me to watch the baby. "It won't take more than 30 minutes..." Seeing as how I'm already late and hungry, I say okay and go next store to get a bit. The baby proceeds to cry, non stop, for the next 45 minutes - the amount of time it took to get my sisters nails done.

Before going to the office, I decide to stop off at a company that has and is still laying off a bunch of people. I spoke with an employee (previously) about rolling over her 401k and asked who at the office would I speak to - to intercept other laid off employees about rollover options. I got a name. Stopped by to see him (unannounced) and the piece of sh*t blow me off. I don't mind that, so long as its someone who knows what the fuk I'm talking about. Clearly this was over his head and he had no other way to save face that to say, "No".

Going back to the office I'm trying to merge onto the freeway in traffic. A semi lets me in only for some jackass hillbillie in a lifted Chevy to nearly ram my rear end as he merges from the fast lane into the off ramp. Then he freaks out at me.

Finally, I've been working on an ACAT for about $20K. No big deal. It was rejected a week ago. the SA's in my office didn't follow up with the back office on the why it was rejected. WTF are they there for?

As you can see, none of this is a big deal. The no-show appointment really pissed me off. Everything else isn't a big deal. Tomorrow will be better for sure. just venting

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Did you qualify the guy for wanting help or did you schedule an appointment to try to sell him something? People that want help show up. People that are meeting to be sold something don't. Never meet in a restaurant. Meet in your office only. When you set the appointment, ask if you should write it in pen or pencil. They'll know what you're talking about.

Sisters always lie.

Never expect stupid people to be smart. They will always disappoint you.

SA's are good for sex. Nothing else. Never hire an ugly SA.

No person can piss you off if your pipeline is jam packed.

Jun 7, 2007 11:57 pm

When you reschedule the appointment, make sure it's at least a week or more, from today. Be sure to throw-in that you're booked-up solid till then.

For these kinds of days, the best thing you can do is cold call/walk. Nine times out of ten, you'll unexpectedly come across "money in motion" and you'll forget how bad today was. Don't ask me why it happens this way, but it does.

Hang-in there!

Jun 8, 2007 12:02 am

Welcome to the fabulous glamourios life of being a stock broker. 

We've all been there with days that started like crap and got worse.  It will get better just keep in there plugging away.  Don't give up on your no show.  If nothing else guilt him into a meeting with you.

My day has sucked pretty much too. Went to the doctor with a double ear infection. Can't hear sh*t and my ears HURT. Everything sounds muffled and people sound like robots. They gave me antibiotics, ear drops and nasal spray (I think they just want to push as many drugs as they can) and said I should avoid sounds for a few days.  !!!!  Makes it hard to talk on the phone or visit with people if you have to avoid sounds.  I had to have a couple of appointments pushed back. Thankfully, my clients are understanding.

So I came home, got a book, and fell asleep on the deck in the sun and now am sunburned. This is why I have time to post today.  Bored out of my mind and losing time at work. 

At least I can work on some power point presentations.

I think I'll get drunk tonight.

Jun 8, 2007 12:04 am

Sheesh spell check first Bunny!!! 

Think I'll get drunk sooner than tonight

Jun 8, 2007 12:12 am

Thanks for the encouragement. I was driving home from work and passed some field workers. I felt like an idiot for being pissed off and thinking I had a bad day. Couldn't imagine picking grapes all day in the hot california sun.

Bobby Hull, the no show had previously suggested we get together to talk about his portfolio held at a bank... Obviously I was happy to meet at his convenience. Going forward we'll meet at the office for sure and I'll use that line to confirm a date/time. Thanks.

Not only are my SA's not attractive, they are grumpy, bitter, divorced, and getting old. Oh yeah, not very bright either. How they lasted? No idea.

I'm going to kick my feet up tonight, watch this P.O.S. nba finals matchup and hit it hard tomorrow.

Thanks for pointing me back in the right direction guys.

Jun 8, 2007 12:15 am

707SE,

Read Bobby's last line 100 times.

You need to take complete responsibility for your sh*tty day.  You f**ked it up.  I'm not trying to be harsh with you, just giving it to you straight.

1)If you go into a day with just 2 appointments set, there is a good chance that your day will suck.  You will get blown off.  Appointments will get rescheduled.  Go into every day with at least 5 appointments set.

2)Don't wait around for 45 minutes. 

3)You aren't successful enough to close your business in the middle of the day to get a haircut.  Imagine that you run a retail store and it's the week before Christmas, would you put up a sign that says "closed" in the middle of the day to get a haircut.

4) See #3, but substitute, "bite to eat"

5) See #3, but substitue, "babysit"

6) You cold walk one place and get blown off by one person and your mad about the results?  That's crazy.  This is a number's game.  Walk into 20 more places and something positive will happen.

Judge your good days and bad days based upon your actions.  Today was a sh*tty day because of your actions.

Make tomorrow a great day!

Jun 8, 2007 12:23 am

[quote=anonymous]

707SE,

Read Bobby's last line 100 times.

You need to take complete responsibility for your sh*tty day.  You f**ked it up.  I'm not trying to be harsh with you, just giving it to you straight.

1)If you go into a day with just 2 appointments set, there is a good chance that your day will suck.  You will get blown off.  Appointments will get rescheduled.  Go into every day with at least 5 appointments set.

2)Don't wait around for 45 minutes. 

3)You aren't successful enough to close your business in the middle of the day to get a haircut.  Imagine that you run a retail store and it's the week before Christmas, would you put up a sign that says "closed" in the middle of the day to get a haircut.

4) See #3, but substitute, "bite to eat"

5) See #3, but substitue, "babysit"

6) You cold walk one place and get blown off by one person and your mad about the results?  That's crazy.  This is a number's game.  Walk into 20 more places and something positive will happen.

Judge your good days and bad days based upon your actions.  Today was a sh*tty day because of your actions.

Make tomorrow a great day!

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You're right. The thing that sums this up and pisses me off is that I know the only thing that I can't get more of is time. I didn't manage my time well today, at all. Maybe thats why I'm so mad is because everything sh*tty was preventable if I had prepared better. This makes me look thin'd skin'd but the truth is that I'm pissed because of the time issue. I hate when people waste my time. From SA's not following up in a timely manner, to me waiting around for 45 minutes for a no show, I hate wasting time and that is all that today was, a big waste of time. thanks for the lumps.

Jun 8, 2007 12:25 am

[quote=707SE]

Thanks for the encouragement. I was driving home from work and passed some field workers. I felt like an idiot for being pissed off and thinking I had a bad day. Couldn't imagine picking grapes all day in the hot california sun.

Bobby Hull, the no show had previously suggested we get together to talk about his portfolio held at a bank... Obviously I was happy to meet at his convenience. Going forward we'll meet at the office for sure and I'll use that line to confirm a date/time. Thanks.

Not only are my SA's not attractive, they are grumpy, bitter, divorced, and getting old. Oh yeah, not very bright either. How they lasted? No idea.

I'm going to kick my feet up tonight, watch this P.O.S. nba finals matchup and hit it hard tomorrow.

Thanks for pointing me back in the right direction guys.

[/quote]

SA's know where the bodies are buried. Everyone's too afraid to fire them. The best way to get back at them is to make money and let them know how much you're making. Leave a copy of your check in the copy machine and on your desk.

Jun 8, 2007 12:28 am

Was that lifted Chevy truck red, rusted, and primered? If so, that is the hillbilly who I acated 1.5MM today! He was a few minutes late and was talking about a-hole drivers. Ha, just kidding. Tomorrow can’t be much worse!

Jun 8, 2007 12:43 am

I love SA’s- they make me smile…

Jun 8, 2007 1:08 am

[quote=anonymous]

707SE,

Read Bobby's last line 100 times.

You need to take complete responsibility for your sh*tty day.  You f**ked it up.  I'm not trying to be harsh with you, just giving it to you straight.

1)If you go into a day with just 2 appointments set, there is a good chance that your day will suck.  You will get blown off.  Appointments will get rescheduled.  Go into every day with at least 5 appointments set.

2)Don't wait around for 45 minutes. 

3)You aren't successful enough to close your business in the middle of the day to get a haircut.  Imagine that you run a retail store and it's the week before Christmas, would you put up a sign that says "closed" in the middle of the day to get a haircut.

4) See #3, but substitute, "bite to eat"

5) See #3, but substitue, "babysit"

6) You cold walk one place and get blown off by one person and your mad about the results?  That's crazy.  This is a number's game.  Walk into 20 more places and something positive will happen.

Judge your good days and bad days based upon your actions.  Today was a sh*tty day because of your actions.

Make tomorrow a great day!

[/quote]

I disagree with some of this.

1) Bad sh*t happens, and people are ungrateful. Jesus heals 10 lepers and only one says thanks. You can't hope to do much better.

2) Pulling the BSD/Ricky Roma stuff isn't going to work. You make it hard for clients to work with you, they indeed won't work with you.

3) The more you have in the pipeline, the less any single thing counts.

4) The part about poor time management today is your fault. But its no big deal if you live in day-tight compartments.Since you don't get paid to baby-sit don't babysit.

5) With Appointment's, I like the 1-2-Cap system. You set the appointment, you call them a day ahead to confirm all the details, and then you meet up.

6) If you have a bad day, don't fight it. I used to play poker for a living. If you're not in 100% top form don't play. The very best you can do is not lose money.

7) That said, its a big ocean out there. So fish where the fish are, and should do ok.

7)

Jun 8, 2007 2:06 am

AllREIT,

Right on about the poker. I am in a mega slump now and going to Vegas next week. Does not look good for the Gipper. Trying to turn the ship ASAP. The market fall does not help either.

MDT

Jun 8, 2007 2:59 am

707  there are going to be plenty of days like today, and plenty of others where everything goes right and you feel like the guy from the old Mel Brooks movie… "It’s GOOD to be the king!"

The point is that when things happen to you, what matters is how you react to them.  When you’re having a sh*tty day like today, it only gets worse if you let the frustration get to you and build up.  It causes you to react differently to the next bad situation that comes up that day, and for that matter if you’re not thinking clearly you’ll likely miss some opportunities to make some good things happen as well.

You have to let things like that go like water rolls off a duck’s back, and move on.  Keep a very even keel as you go through the day.  This is a mental game, and when you let stuff like that get to you you’re not bringing your “A” game on the field of battle.

How’s that for a bunch of mixed metaphors?  Nonetheless I think you get the point.

Jun 8, 2007 3:05 am

[quote=Mucho de Tejas]

AllREIT,

Right on about the poker. I am in a mega slump now and going to Vegas next week. Does not look good for the Gipper. Trying to turn the ship ASAP. The market fall does not help either.

MDT

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That's the exact time not to play. You want to be well rested and in good mental shape, while playing against people who are tired and in poor mental shape.

Someone who is well rested has at least a 30% advantage over someone who tired. Tired/drunk people can't think and can't resist psychological baises.
Jun 8, 2007 3:12 pm

[quote=AllREIT] [quote=Mucho de Tejas]

AllREIT,

Right on about the poker. I am in a mega slump now and going to Vegas next week. Does not look good for the Gipper. Trying to turn the ship ASAP. The market fall does not help either.

MDT

[/quote]

That's the exact time not to play. You want to be well rested and in good mental shape, while playing against people who are tired and in poor mental shape.

Someone who is well rested has at least a 30% advantage over someone who tired. Tired/drunk people can't think and can't resist psychological baises.
[/quote]

I'm curious though, I've found that when I'm at a particularly juicy table, I do all I can to fight through the mental and physical lethargy.  Do you rack your chips and walk away because you're not 100%?  Seems to me that is a sort of avoidance behavior, much like 707's excuse that he needed a haircut during the middle of the day.

Jun 8, 2007 3:47 pm

When you get tired at the tables, cash in your winnings and head to a club… When you get there, have a dozen drinks and take down the cutest tourist with casual morals that you can find… AHHHH… Vegas…

Jun 8, 2007 6:09 pm

[quote=deekay]

I’m curious though, I’ve found that when I’m at a
particularly juicy table, I do all I can to fight through the mental
and physical lethargy.  Do you rack your chips and walk away
because you’re not 100%? 

Seems to me that is a sort of avoidance behavior, much like 707's excuse that he needed a haircut during the middle of the day.

[/quote]

I use that line/thinking with people I want to keep in the game,

"Your just making an excuse to quit a loser, if you hadn't been drinking so much, you'd be a winner, be a man win it back" etc.

You'd be surprised how people are willing to spend upwards of $500 to prove that they arent losers at poker.

What I find, is that it is very easy to make bad decisions when tired, including assements of game conditions. So I pretty much always rack up when I'm not feeling 100%.

I used to do Mike Caro's poker missions, of which one of them was to asses your personal state and game condition every 30 minutes. Today thats subconcious, to the point where as soon as I feel tired, I just leave.


Jun 8, 2007 9:01 pm

[quote=blarmston]When you get tired at the tables, cash in your winnings and head to a club.... When you get there, have a dozen drinks and take down the cutest tourist with casual morals that you can find..... AHHHH... Vegas...[/quote]

That's why I moved here

I prefer to have the wife pick up the cute tourists though, has yet to happen but this is the land of dreams right?

Jun 8, 2007 9:17 pm

That's why I moved here

Can I come visit? I will bring the crew and we can all get after it.....