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May 27, 2005 11:57 pm

When referring to Edward Jones IRs who started under a veteran IR in the Goodknight plan Soothsayer said:



"So, you have absolutely no idea how it feels to be constantly put in the chow line behind these guys and gals who have not done the work of building a business."



Sorta brings a tear to your eye, doesn't it?



BPD



P.S. Sooth's post was May 8th at 10:33am under What's up at firms. Thread = Moving from Jones to AGEdwards.

May 28, 2005 3:49 pm

BipPayDay(BRAINEDWASHED)


Let's hear you answer some QUESTIONS, INSTEAD OF SPREADING "BS", ANSWER THE QUESTIONS:




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BigPayDay
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Joined: Jan. 10 2005
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Bench Warmer,

So you do what you do for Ted Jones. How special. Sounds like you have a warm heart.

You say you've moved on.

Dude get a grip. Jones has you by the neck and they are shaking you till you can't breath.....and then you wake up and ask your boyfriend to spoon you because you're scared.

Out.





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BigPayDay (Brainwashed),


At least I can answer questions, let's see what your answers are ?


Are you AFRAID of the TRUTH?


There has never been a JONES SUPPORTER on here yet that has answered QUESTIONS, they only fire back insults...is that how they are teaching salemanship at Edward Jones......


SHOW US WHAT YOU ARE MADE OF "PUNK" make my DAY....



May 28, 2005 9:38 pm

When referring to Edward Jones IRs who started under a veteran IR in the Goodknight plan Soothsayer said:



"So, you have absolutely no idea how it feels to be constantly put in the chow line behind these guys and gals who have not done the work of building a business."



Sorta brings a tear to your eye, doesn't it?



BPD



P.S. Sooth's post was May 8th at 10:33am under What's up at firms. Thread = Moving from Jones to AGEdwards.

May 28, 2005 11:57 pm

BPD you are such a putz.   Sooth was referring to the practice of setting up a newbie in the businesses, in a Goodnight plan: giving that person who hadn't paid the dues a ready made book of business of 24 million or more dollars.  And then telling the rest of us who started from ZERO and ground out our time and lives to create an office from nothing, how wonderful the newest fair haired child was.


Well....gee....duh!!  Give me 24 million of AOM and several hundred warm contacts and I can look like a shining star too.  


It was a such a joke.  The RL would tout how wonderful the new guy was doing and the rest of us were secretly making sucking sounds and rude hand gestures.     Let me guess you were a Goodnight.

May 29, 2005 12:20 am

BL,



Life isn't always fair.



So if you are a senior advisor or have more accounts you can handle you don't believe in bringing in a new advisor to take on some of the smaller accounts so you can concentrate on your larger accounts?



BPD

May 29, 2005 9:53 am

BPD, you truly are a flawed individual possessed of an inferior intellect.


Please, for the Love of God, convince me that you're not THAT stupid.

May 29, 2005 10:22 am

Ok... one more time... but I'm afraid that Starka may be right.  You aren't just brainwashed by EDJ, your brain is nonexistant. 


The practice that offends is not giving a book of business to a younger broker. That is a good and standard practice, one that I plan to implment shortly before my own retirment.  The OFFENSE is in an organization (and I use the term loosely) like EDJ where you give some undeducated, clueless noobie (like you) a large book of business and THEN rave on on how the noobie (you) is such a success.   It is no surprise that the rest of the people who worked their asses off to become sucessful are not impressed.


BTW: Did you ever research the proprietary and uncompetetive annuities that EDJ has packaged so that they can continue to push the preferred funds? 

May 29, 2005 11:23 am



P.S. Sooth's post was May 8th at 10:33am under What's up at firms. Thread = Moving from Jones to AGEdwards.
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Soothsayer took his wife to Europe for a couple of weeks.  I could afford the trip based on my tax savings alone being paid by 1099 vs. W-2.  By the way, we had a great time.

May 29, 2005 11:29 am
babbling looney:

Ok... one more time... but I'm afraid that Starka may be right.  You aren't just brainwashed by EDJ, your brain is nonexistant. 


The practice that offends is not giving a book of business to a younger broker. That is a good and standard practice, one that I plan to implment shortly before my own retirment.  The OFFENSE is in an organization (and I use the term loosely) like EDJ where you give some undeducated, clueless noobie (like you) a large book of business and THEN rave on on how the noobie (you) is such a success.   It is no surprise that the rest of the people who worked their asses off to become sucessful are not impressed.


BTW: Did you ever research the proprietary and uncompetetive annuities that EDJ has packaged so that they can continue to push the preferred funds? 



Looney--


Sounds like your experience mirrored mine.  I always asked, "Why do you take the people who have done nothing, proven nothing, accomplished nothing, sacrificed nothing, and never given a red cent back to STL, and give them all the spoils?"  There is no system that could ever be completely fair.  However, there is much that could have been done to remedy or mitigate the morale corruption that this practice causes. 

May 29, 2005 12:32 pm

Sooth and Ms Looney,



You sound like the Democrats. Just bashing and no solutions.



So you agree bringing in a junior broker makes sense. How would you do it differently than Jones is doing it?



BPD



P.S. I've done three Goodknights in my office. All are very successful brokers today. They still had to work very hard to get where they are. Taking over assets can be a two edged sword because although the new broker will start out of the gate quicker, they still have to prospect or they will usually plateau 1 - 2 years in.

May 29, 2005 12:35 pm

Right.  I don't mind that some one has the fortune to be a "Goodnight".  What I did mind was the "morale corrupting" practice of holding that person's production up as some sort of an accomplishment and having the clueless noobie attempt to teach the rest of us how to do the work.    I had/have great respect for those successful brokers at Jones or anywhere else who have worked hard and built a business from scratch.  I have little or no respect for someone who is riding on the coat tails of the aforementioned hard working broker.  


Now this isn't to say the the clueless noobie can't go on to further build their inherited book of business, learn and become a good business manager. THEN I will give them the respect that is due. But puuuleeese..... don't insult my intelligence by saying that someone who was given (on a golden platter) millions in assets and hundreds of ready made pigeons, I mean clients, is some sort of a shining star.


I never understood how the RL could think that this practice was some sort of incentive or inspirational example to the rest of us.  As I said sucking noises and rude hand gestures.

May 29, 2005 12:40 pm

P.S. I've done three Goodknights in my office. All are very successful brokers today.


No way.  I hope they learned something of the business from someone, as they certain must not have learned much from you.


Now I'm off to the lake.  Enjoy the day.

May 29, 2005 5:17 pm

Ms Looney,



Hope you had a good day at the lake.



I think the bigger problem was how your RL talked about the Goodknight IR not so much the Goodknight program itself. Agree?



BPD