Best CM software?

Jul 31, 2007 7:56 pm

I was provided different versions of Outlook, but they are suck,imo.  Is Broker's Ally still the big dog? 

I want an all-in-one that reminds me of stuff I need to do, so I want the pop-up feature that gives you the 10 folks you need to call each day, etc.......

Thanks..........

Jul 31, 2007 8:43 pm

ACT! for Advisors is terrific - expensive, but terrific.

Aug 1, 2007 12:44 am

Junxure-i

www.gowithcrm.com

Best there is...

Aug 1, 2007 4:44 pm

Act for advisors is what I use too.

Oct 23, 2007 3:39 pm

any opinions on salesforce.com??

Oct 24, 2007 3:21 am

No system is perfect.  The trick is to find a good one, like some of those cited above, and then have the discipline to stick with it and not use multiple lists or scraps of paper.  It’s harder than it sounds until you build up good habits.

Oct 10, 2008 8:49 pm

Anyone using Pareto Systems? Any feedback?

Oct 10, 2008 9:03 pm

We’re using Goldmine, the newer 9.0 version.  It’s pretty sweet, but for smaller gigs, ACT is ok too.  

Oct 13, 2008 1:30 am

www.redtailtechnology.com

It's $50/month for up to 10+ users. It's pretty good (calendar, customer database, etc.)
Oct 13, 2008 3:13 am

[quote=now_indy]www.redtailtechnology.com

It's $50/month for up to 10+ users. It's pretty good (calendar, customer database, etc.)[/quote]
That price must include a discount offered to your b/d.  Normal price is $65/mo.

Best part about it is it's web based. 
Oct 13, 2008 3:00 pm

[quote=Morphius] [quote=now_indy]www.redtailtechnology.com

It's $50/month for up to 10+ users. It's pretty good (calendar, customer database, etc.)[/quote]
That price must include a discount offered to your b/d.  Normal price is $65/mo.

Best part about it is it's web based. 
[/quote]   Yep, I forgot about the discount. The $50 rate is for LPL reps.    We looked for quite a while for a CRM that could be shared amongst advisors and admin, and RedTail was the best (especially for the price).  And yes, having it web based is very nice. 
Oct 13, 2008 5:16 pm

Thanksk for that Redtail link. Any small RIAs using Redtail, or a better online CM? How about Outlook?

Oct 13, 2008 8:16 pm
walking9:

Thanksk for that Redtail link. Any small RIAs using Redtail, or a better online CM? How about Outlook?

Not many alternatives in this price range if you want online CRM.  Upswing perhaps but they have yet to demonstrate dependibility over any length of time.   Outlook is great but it's not a CRM.   
Oct 15, 2008 1:54 am

I use RedTail on a daily basis and agree with Morphius’s earlier comments – I think for the price and considering it is web-based, very good system but they aren’t the only kid on the block.  I’ve also used www.salesforce.com but when I compare RedTail against SalesForce – I believe RedTail is more intune with running a Financial Planning Practice but SalesForce did have a lot of neat features and some ability for customization.

Oct 15, 2008 3:47 am

I agree with Frederich that Salesforce is very powerful ASP CRM, but the last time I priced it the cost was about the same for each person as Redtail is for up to 10.  Add in the cost of an industry specific overlay and it is considerably more expensive than Redtail.  

Nov 21, 2008 5:05 am

I’m starting to like redtail’s product. Email is integrated as well as the marketinglibrary which has preapproved letters and email copy.

Feb 28, 2009 2:48 am

Does LPL have a customer database, if so aren't you duplicating the work?

Feb 28, 2009 2:20 pm

http://www.financialsoftware.com/pracbldr/software.htm

Mar 2, 2009 9:43 pm

You can get a copy of Act on Ebay for around $20. I’ve been using it for years.

Mar 13, 2009 1:52 pm
kap39:

any opinions on salesforce.com??

  I supported Salesforce for a while before I was an FA, and as a sales software it seemed terrific. I can't say much about it in relation to financial services, but I remember thinking that I wished I had it when I was in previous sales positions.   And, the support is pretty darn good .
Mar 24, 2009 9:51 pm

[quote=bluestars80]

I was provided different versions of Outlook, but they are suck,imo.  Is Broker’s Ally still the big dog? 

I want an all-in-one that reminds me of stuff I need to do, so I want the pop-up feature that gives you the 10 folks you need to call each day, etc.......

Thanks..........

[/quote]

Before you go spending money, try ZOHO.com.  They have a free CRM tool for under 3 users.  Try it to see if you like it.  Many of these tools are expensive and often are not plug and play.  The biggest question is where does the data come from?

ash
www.FAfreedom.com - The Breakaway Experts
Jun 10, 2009 2:17 am

Are any of the mentioned CRMs (Redtail, Act, Salesforce, Junxure, etc) able to receive client information directly from the B/D.



For example, if you clear through Pershing, will your clients’ information (account values) automatically feed in the system as opposed to manually putting it in?



As I look to go Indy, I want to pick a CRM that will provide this if possbile.



Thanks!

Jun 16, 2009 11:20 am

I’ve had good experience with Salesforce.com and am now using RedTail.  I don’t think any one CRM system can be the best at everything – pretty much depends on the needs of the Advisors practice but based on my own experience, Salesforce and RedTail do a good job meeting my needs.  Good luck in your CRM search.

  P.S. Broker's Ally -- gosh -- that has been around forever it seems.  Have they come out with new upgraded versions recently? 
Jun 16, 2009 12:44 pm

[quote=Omar] Are any of the mentioned CRMs (Redtail, Act, Salesforce, Junxure, etc) able to receive client information directly from the B/D.



For example, if you clear through Pershing, will your clients’ information (account values) automatically feed in the system as opposed to manually putting it in?



As I look to go Indy, I want to pick a CRM that will provide this if possbile.



Thanks![/quote]



You can get to automatic account data feeds, although you might need another step in the process. We use Redtail and get account info updated each night, although that is done via an integration with Black Diamond, not directly from Fidelity. In other words, data from custodian >> Black Diamond >> Redtail.



These integrations are important time savers, although for my money the most important one is not getting it into the CRM but into the planning software. That saves huge time keeping the plan updated with current account values automatically.



Check out http://www.yoursilverbullet.net/ for a listing of various software vendors whose products integrate well together.

Jun 18, 2009 11:44 pm

Morphius,



Thanks so much for that website link. So, you use Black Diamond for your performance reporting, which feeds data into Redtail. So, a couple of quick questions:



1. What type of data feeds into Redtail via Black Diamond? Is it basic demographic (name, address, etc) and account data (holdings)?



2. How much is Black Diamond? Can just about anyone who is independent use them?

Jun 19, 2009 2:05 am

[quote=Omar] Morphius,



Thanks so much for that website link. So, you use Black Diamond for your performance reporting, which feeds data into Redtail. So, a couple of quick questions:



1. What type of data feeds into Redtail via Black Diamond? Is it basic demographic (name, address, etc) and account data (holdings)?



2. How much is Black Diamond? Can just about anyone who is independent use them? [/quote]



1. Account info (positions, etc.) feeds into Redtail via BD. I don’t believe name/address, etc. feeds in, but we already had that info in Redtail so didn’t need to import it so I can’t be positive it’s not possible.



2. Anyone who pays for BD can use it, but it does have an annual minimum of something around $20K or so (payable monthly) so it may not be economically aimed at smaller RIAs. I seem to recall them saying their target is $50 MM AUM and larger. You can certainly use them if you are smaller i suppose, but it is a bit more expensive.



Hope that clarifies. Give BD a call yourself to get the details.

Jun 19, 2009 9:53 am

Thanks!

Jun 20, 2009 2:35 am

I recently set up an RIA and have been looking into “Redtail” and “Smart Office by EZData”.  Are you or anyone familiar with SmartOffice?

   
Jul 24, 2009 8:57 pm

So I was just looking at salesforce last weekend (and playing with the demo they provided), and wow.  I’m totally in love (much more intuitive than GM, faster response, open architecture, etc…).  BUT, one thing that they said is that it has no native email integration (coming from goldmine, I figured this was standard by now). 

I see that there are some apps that can be added on to support integrated email.  Does anyone have any experience with Salesforce + email integration? 

Jul 25, 2009 5:32 pm

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Jul 25, 2009 6:18 pm

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Jul 27, 2009 4:33 pm

For those using the Redtail CRM, do you use RedTail email as well, for the benefit of the integration?

Thanks!

Jul 29, 2009 11:02 pm

Is there a difference between ACT advisor and ACT? Because someone is selling ACT 2008 for $36… vs ACT ADVISOR 299

Jul 29, 2009 11:22 pm

Ran across something called Prophet today… seems interesting links in with Outlook.

Aug 7, 2009 1:01 pm

I wanted to try and stick with CRMs designed for financial services/FAs, and, at Morphuis’ suggestion, took a look at Upswing.

I like the look and feel of this CRM, and signed up for a trial period.   We've been using Redtail, which I find rudimentary, especially the taslks and calendar. To schedule a task or appointment you have to do about 20 mouse clicks, and you cannot seperate tasks and appointments.   Will report back in couple weeks!
Aug 7, 2009 10:20 pm
kap39:

any opinions on salesforce.com??

I really like salesforce the firm wont let us use it because it is internet based, but i like act as well. If you can go with salesforce.com
Aug 10, 2009 9:14 pm

I signed up for Upswing too. I will post about it when I have had it a couple of months.

Aug 12, 2009 6:14 pm
Squash:

Anyone using Pareto Systems? Any feedback?

  Anybody got an answer on Pareto?
Aug 25, 2009 4:09 pm

After using upswing now for a little bit…

1. A lot more friendly to the user than Redtail. 2. Better Cost than Redtail. 3. Easier to move contacts in by excel than Redtail. 4. Moving from redtail to Upswing.   The ease of use is what makes it nicer.
Aug 26, 2009 6:00 am

redtail, Upswing, Smartoffice

    I gave up on Redtail, and tried Upswing. After 4 days of waiting for customer service to answer an email regarding getting a little help importing contacts, I gave up and moved to EZData's SmartOffice. Hoooo Boy! This software can do it all, and will work for my practice management for years to come. Is it as good as the old AG Edwards Brokervision? Naw, not quite. But closer than RT by a long shot, and better than the 1990s crap we had at Jones.   FYI, my brothers and sisters.
Aug 26, 2009 10:04 am

[quote=Effay]redtail, Upswing, Smartoffice

    I gave up on Redtail, and tried Upswing. After 4 days of waiting for customer service to answer an email regarding getting a little help importing contacts, I gave up and moved to EZData's SmartOffice. Hoooo Boy! This software can do it all, and will work for my practice management for years to come. Is it as good as the old AG Edwards Brokervision? Naw, not quite. But closer than RT by a long shot, and better than the 1990s crap we had at Jones.   FYI, my brothers and sisters. [/quote]
What's the cost of Smartoffice (financial advisor)? Didn't like the fact that the website doesn't list pricing unlike Upswing which openly lists all of their pricing menu...EZ Data should try EZ pricing.
Aug 26, 2009 7:31 pm

Anyone use Protracker?

Jan 24, 2010 11:21 pm

In trying to find the best CRM for my practice, this post has been extremely helpful!

  I've already done a good bit of research, and like this post, the three systems that keep coming up are: Redtail Ezdata Smartoffice Upswing

From the sounds of it, several of you that posted on this thread in 2009 switched from Redtail to one of the other two.........so any more feedback regarding the switch??

I would love to hear from all others that have any specific feedback regarding the above systems!
Jan 25, 2010 1:23 am

I moved from Redtail to Upswing in 2009. I like the switch. Upswing has very few clicks to enter information and if you want to import a list from excel it is pretty simple to do.

Jan 25, 2010 2:38 am
noggin:

I moved from Redtail to Upswing in 2009. I like the switch. Upswing has very few clicks to enter information and if you want to import a list from excel it is pretty simple to do.

How is the cost comparison between the two?  I'm still unsure if Upswing is actually a web-based CRM like Redtail?   Anything that Upswing doesn't do that Redtail did?
Jan 25, 2010 12:45 pm

If it’s just you, $37 (Upswing) to $65 for Redtail. Redtail offers economies of scale that help; I believe they are likely to be a touch better in the integration category, especially with MGP; and other bolt-on tools (at a price) like email integration.



If you are starting out, Upswing is easier to learn. Uploading data proved to be no better than entering the data into Excel - there are too many bumps along the way (tags, relationships, data cleansing).

Jan 25, 2010 7:15 pm

I switched from Redtail to Upswing(my b/d cost on redtail was only$50)… I found upswing much easier to use and quicker. On redtail it takes too many click and redirects to get the info I found…

Jan 25, 2010 7:17 pm
Gaddock:

You can get a copy of Act on Ebay for around $20. I’ve been using it for years.

Does it matter if it isn't the current year? Do you need the upgrades for ACT to work?
Jan 25, 2010 8:17 pm

Squash and Noggin -

Were you guys storing any documents on Redtail when you switch. How was the conversion?

Jan 25, 2010 8:51 pm

One downside to Upswing ... LaserApp. It does integrate with L-A, but not as well as some of the other CRMS. That may or may not be relevant to you.

Jan 25, 2010 9:14 pm
CALI123:

Squash and Noggin -

Were you guys storing any documents on Redtail when you switch. How was the conversion?

I wasn't storing any documents with Redtail so I can't answer that. I just like Upswing primarily because I use it only as a CRM. I am not trying to integrate anything into it. I am just using it to make sure that I have consistent client and prospect contact and to keep the information handy that I need with them. I think it is a good value as I use it.
Jan 25, 2010 9:22 pm
CALI123:

Squash and Noggin -

Were you guys storing any documents on Redtail when you switch. How was the conversion?

Didn't store any documents...
Jan 26, 2010 9:43 pm
One last thing: if you are going through an initial transition from a large BD and are planning on leveraging LaserApp, be advised integration with Upswing requires exporting a report ... exporting a set of seven fields from the CRM, then "mapping" those fields by creating a custom import integration on the LaserApp side and finally bringing them in in bulk. Even still, you'll find data issues that will need cleansing before you speak to your clients.   Still, using Upswing/LA in combination with a Tablet PC and a wireless AIO device should make quick work of bringing customers over.
Jan 27, 2010 5:27 am

[quote=walking9]Thanksk for that Redtail link. Any small RIAs using Redtail, or a better online CM? How about Outlook?[/quote]

I actually wrote a bunch of custom add-ins to Outlook and used it on our exchange server for years.

Alas…I’ve gotten too busy to maintain all that and just switched to Redtail.  It’s Mac friendly, has an iPhone app and also integrates with any email client for automating retention and discovery compliance.  Add in the SaS and no more server maintenance - it’s pretty sweet for RIAs.

I think my stabs at custom database programming are slowly dying - which is okay, I’ll just write programs for investing from now on.

JW

Jan 27, 2010 1:51 pm
AdvisorControl.com:

[quote=walking9]Thanksk for that Redtail link. Any small RIAs using Redtail, or a better online CM? How about Outlook?[/quote]

…Redtail … also integrates with any email client for automating retention and discovery compliance…JW

  Jason .... isn't the cost for integration a bit cost prohibitive?
Apr 25, 2011 8:26 pm

Has anyone used the Pareto Platform CRM?