South Florida Mentor

Sep 2, 2009 8:24 pm

Hello,

My name is James and I am new to the community. I am 21
years old and I need to learn a lot about playing the stock market. I
am a very positive person. I became a mortgage broker at the age of 18
years old and I was unable to make big money due to this economical
melt down. But I do not give up.

I currently live in Fort
Lauderdale FL and I am dying to have a successful mentor to teach me
the ropes and help me out with the stock market. I will do anything it
takes to make tons of money. Please help me out. Message me and let me
know. My e-mail is [email protected]

Thank you.

Sep 3, 2009 12:00 am

here you go:

  http://www.edwardjones.com
Sep 3, 2009 1:05 am

thank you for that info however i have seen this before and i do not wish to work as a financial advisor.  what i am looking for is a mentor

Sep 3, 2009 1:08 am

[quote=j.wehman] thank you for that info however i have seen this before and i do not wish to work as a financial advisor. what i am looking for is a mentor

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Wrong place.



Sep 3, 2009 1:40 am

ice - pleez dont call mee that. i nee to fine a mentor so that he can hep me make lots of money. i am motivated, handsome, and gosh darnit, people like me.



also, i like stoks and want to make money with stoks.

Sep 3, 2009 1:42 am

[quote=Moraen]ice - pleez dont call mee that. i nee to fine a mentor so that he can hep me make lots of money. i am motivated, handsome, and gosh darnit, people like me.



also, i like stoks and want to make money with stoks.[/quote]


Sep 3, 2009 1:44 am

If you have been a mortgage broker since 18 it is probably same to assume to did not get your college degree.  I would suggest enrolling at a local college and major in Finance.  You may be able to find a professor or two willing to take you under their wing and teach you a few things.  Nothing worth doing in life comes easy.  You have to build a base of knowlege before you can dive in and have success.  If making a ton of money in the stock market out of nothing were easy, we all would be doing it instead of working.  Truth is, if you can find a way to save a little of your paycheck a month and invest it and get a 10% return at your age you are doing pretty good.  But you need a paycheck first, which is why someone recommend you work at Edward Jones.  Working as a financial advisor is probably the best way for a young guy to learn the markets and maybe make a few bucks. 

Sep 3, 2009 2:02 am

[quote=iceco1d]OMFG!  I don’t like to resort to name calling, BUT…

YOU ARE A F&CKING MORON!

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I never like to talk smack but are you serious? The name of this forum is Registered Rep, meaning most guys in the business or aspiring to be in the business.  You’re on the wrong site my friend.  You’re not going to find a mentor here. 



Sep 3, 2009 2:18 am

Wow I am asking a simple question hoping people will be friendly enough to help me out.  No need to be calling me a f***ing idiot and a moron.  With all your negativity you all will fail in the stock market.  You sound like you all got picked on and beat up in high school and are now picking on someone whos not very familiar with stocks.

However I have been doing most of the right things and saving my paychecks and investing into the stock market with it.  I only got lucky with aig as i bought in back in March when it was around 3 dollars and selling half my shares at 45 dollars.  Other than that my portfolio is all over the place.

Thank you for at lease your advice LA Broker I wish for you to live a very prosperous life.

Sep 3, 2009 2:32 am
j.wehman:

Wow I am asking a simple question hoping people will be friendly enough to help me out.  No need to be calling me a f***ing idiot and a moron.  With all your negativity you all will fail in the stock market.  You sound like you all got picked on and beat up in high school and are now picking on someone whos not very familiar with stocks.

However I have been doing most of the right things and saving my paychecks and investing into the stock market with it.  I only got lucky with aig as i bought in back in March when it was around 3 dollars and selling half my shares at 45 dollars.  Other than that my portfolio is all over the place.

Thank you for at lease your advice LA Broker I wish for you to live a very prosperous life.

  Two things. most of the cool kids go to college now.. yeah it sounds dumb, but we enjoy making money doing something we are good at and appreciate the training.   Second of all, you know AIG had like 1:20 reverse split or something like that, now I dont follow the stock, but if you sold at 45 doesn't that mean you bought at $3 at sold at $2.25.. i might be wrong since I don't follow gov't owned companies.
Sep 3, 2009 2:47 am

[quote=j.wehman]Wow I am asking a simple question hoping people will be friendly enough to help me out.  No need to be calling me a f***ing idiot and a moron.  With all your negativity you all will fail in the stock market.  You sound like you all got picked on and beat up in high school and are now picking on someone whos not very familiar with stocks.

However I have been doing most of the right things and saving my paychecks and investing into the stock market with it.  I only got lucky with aig as i bought in back in March when it was around 3 dollars and selling half my shares at 45 dollars.  Other than that my portfolio is all over the place.

Thank you for at lease your advice LA Broker I wish for you to live a very prosperous life.

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AIG had a 20:1 reverse split…you lost money!

Sep 3, 2009 5:00 am

[quote=iceco1d]Yup.  None of us will make it.  Good call. 

You are right, we don’t HAVE to tell you that you’re a moron.  But you ARE a moron, so I figured I’d just go ahead and point it out for you.  You know, so you don’t have to wonder whether you are or not.

Hey, look at the bright side…if the whole day trading thing doesn’t work out for you, you can always go back to being a mortgage broker (that’s actually probably only smart enough, and qualified for, asking “would you like fries with that?”)…you can always make it your goal to doing your part in collapsing the world’s financial system…again.  Thanks by the way.

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Im not gonna stoop to your childish level.  If you understand anything in finance then you would know that the banks themselves + democrats + government owned Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac caused the crash of the mortgage market.  They are the ones that created the loan programs and paid brokers millions to sell them.  You have no one to blame but yourself.

Go ahead and be a pissed off person cause you lost your whole whopping 1000 dollars in life savings.

All I ask for is a mentor to help me out with the stock market and you all run in and bash me for no f***ing reason. 

Sep 3, 2009 5:08 am

[quote=j.wehman]

[quote=iceco1d]Yup.  None of us will make it.  Good call. 

You are right, we don’t HAVE to tell you that you’re a moron.  But you ARE a moron, so I figured I’d just go ahead and point it out for you.  You know, so you don’t have to wonder whether you are or not.

Hey, look at the bright side…if the whole day trading thing doesn’t work out for you, you can always go back to being a mortgage broker (that’s actually probably only smart enough, and qualified for, asking “would you like fries with that?”)…you can always make it your goal to doing your part in collapsing the world’s financial system…again.  Thanks by the way.

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Im not gonna stoop to your childish level.  If you understand anything in finance then you would know that the banks themselves + democrats + government owned Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac caused the crash of the mortgage market.  They are the ones that created the loan programs and paid brokers millions to sell them.  You have no one to blame but yourself.

Go ahead and be a pissed off person cause you lost your whole whopping 1000 dollars in life savings.

All I ask for is a mentor to help me out with the stock market and you all run in and bash me for no f***ing reason. 
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Windy, stop screwing around!

Sep 3, 2009 1:37 pm
j.wehman:

[quote=iceco1d]Yup.  None of us will make it.  Good call. 

You are right, we don’t HAVE to tell you that you’re a moron.  But you ARE a moron, so I figured I’d just go ahead and point it out for you.  You know, so you don’t have to wonder whether you are or not.

Hey, look at the bright side…if the whole day trading thing doesn’t work out for you, you can always go back to being a mortgage broker (that’s actually probably only smart enough, and qualified for, asking “would you like fries with that?”)…you can always make it your goal to doing your part in collapsing the world’s financial system…again.  Thanks by the way.
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Im not gonna stoop to your childish level.  If you understand anything in finance then you would know that the banks themselves + democrats + government owned Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac caused the crash of the mortgage market.  They are the ones that created the loan programs and paid brokers millions to sell them.  You have no one to blame but yourself.

Go ahead and be a pissed off person cause you lost your whole whopping 1000 dollars in life savings.

All I ask for is a mentor to help me out with the stock market and you all run in and bash me for no f***ing reason. 

  Wrong. If you understood anything about finance you would understand that:   a) Banks didn't "cause" the crash. They are in the business of making money, and causing a global financial crisis wouldn't really be the most effective way to do that. b) Democrats don't usually make enough money to cause a financial crisis. c) Fannie and Freddie didn't cause people to over-leverage themselves. Stupid college kids who take out credit cards without a job do. d) Banks and brokerage firms are not the same thing. e) You are a moron and a liar. AIG didn't trade at $3 in March.  
Sep 3, 2009 1:46 pm
LA Broker:

I would suggest enrolling at a local college and major in Finance.  You may be able to find a professor or two willing to take you under their wing and teach you a few things.  

  Then get a job cleaning the floors, and at night, sneak into the math wing, and complete all the complex problems written out on the board.  Make sure that when you get arrested for beating up some irish kid on the basketball court that you pick a widowed psychologist to spill your guts too.  You will teach him things, he will teach you things. And for the love of God tell Ben Affleck I said "Whats up."   This kid is a total chode.
Sep 3, 2009 1:50 pm

[quote=j.wehman]Hello,

My name is James and I am new to the community. I am 21
years old and I need to learn a lot about playing the stock market. I
am a very positive person. I became a mortgage broker at the age of 18
years old and I was unable to make big money due to this economical
melt down. But I do not give up.

I currently live in Fort
Lauderdale FL and I am dying to have a successful mentor to teach me
the ropes and help me out with the stock market. I will do anything it
takes to make tons of money. Please help me out. Message me and let me
know. My e-mail is [email protected]

Thank you.
[/quote]


Wow!  Thanks for the chuckle. 

James, will you do me a favor?  When you don’t find a successful mentor will you call me and let me know that you have fulfilled your promise of dying?

Sep 3, 2009 1:56 pm

You guys are harsh to a guy that just happened on this board after doing a google search. Take it easy… ya’ll r acting like a-holes to this dude.

  Just go buy some investing books and do some reading.  Learn how the market works and what investing is all about. 
Sep 3, 2009 2:33 pm

[quote=hotair1] You guys are harsh to a guy that just happened on this board after doing a google search. Take it easy… ya’ll r acting like a-holes to this dude.



Just go buy some investing books and do some reading. Learn how the market works and what investing is all about. [/quote]



hotair - will you be his mentor then? He is dying to have one.
Sep 3, 2009 2:50 pm

[quote=Moraen] [quote=hotair1] You guys are harsh to a guy that just happened on this board after doing a google search. Take it easy… ya’ll r acting like a-holes to this dude.

 
Just go buy some investing books and do some reading.  Learn how the market works and what investing is all about.  [/quote]

hotair - will you be his mentor then? He is dying to have one.[/quote]   I can't, I'm too busy exposing the fraud that is Windy.
Sep 3, 2009 3:09 pm

I’ll be his mentor. 

  J.  -  I'll teach you everything I know about the stock market.  I already work for EDJ and we have one of the highest rated research departments in the industry.  I'll share with you our industry secrets, top notch research reports, and buy/sell suggestions as they come out.  I've been involved in this business for over a decade, so I have a ton of knowledge to pass on.  Here's what I've learned about trading stocks like you want to from EDJ:      
Sep 3, 2009 3:34 pm
j.wehman:

Wow I am asking a simple question hoping people will be friendly enough to help me out.  No need to be calling me a f***ing idiot and a moron.  With all your negativity you all will fail in the stock market.  You sound like you all got picked on and beat up in high school and are now picking on someone whos not very familiar with stocks.

However I have been doing most of the right things and saving my paychecks and investing into the stock market with it.  I only got lucky with aig as i bought in back in March when it was around 3 dollars and selling half my shares at 45 dollars.  Other than that my portfolio is all over the place.

Thank you for at lease your advice LA Broker I wish for you to live a very prosperous life.

  Rude awakening when his "mentor" teaches him what a reverse split is!
Sep 3, 2009 3:43 pm

[quote=Spaceman Spiff]I’ll be his mentor. 

  J.  -  I'll teach you everything I know about the stock market.  I already work for EDJ and we have one of the highest rated research departments in the industry.  I'll share with you our industry secrets, top notch research reports, and buy/sell suggestions as they come out.  I've been involved in this business for over a decade, so I have a ton of knowledge to pass on.  Here's what I've learned about trading stocks like you want to from EDJ:  [/quote]   Amazing!   I'll never forget a story that someone told me about asking their Jones guy for a stock to buy, and the broker printed off a bunch of research reports and said "you pick".   Just buy some WCOM...
Sep 3, 2009 6:37 pm

Or C, or BAC, or...well you get the point.  We used to joke about the stocks that research would pick for the E/G and PDP classes to focus on during the call sessions.  I don't know of any of them that ever turned into anything worth talking about.  Unless worth talking about means pink sheets. 

Sep 3, 2009 6:44 pm

I can still hear the classroom monitor saying :"Nobody ever got hurt buying … "

  Fill in the blank. Quite literally, from my Eval/Grad: stock - BAC or PG; 30 year bond - GE. Maybe that didn't quite work out the way they wanted, eh?  
Sep 3, 2009 6:45 pm

[quote=LockEDJ] I can still hear the classroom monitor saying :"Nobody ever got hurt buying … "



Fill in the blank. Quite literally, from my Eval/Grad: stock - BAC or PG; 30 year bond - GE. Maybe that didn’t quite work out the way they wanted, eh?

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They meant to say that “clients never got PHYSICALLY hurt”, however “IR’s have gotten hurt…”
Sep 3, 2009 6:50 pm

We did C, BAC and pepsi… I think the 30 year corporate was C too if not it was CIT.



One guy who was getting orders was telling people that C would never go down… Or remember BAC has increased it’s dividend every year for the last 100, so you get a raise every year…

Sep 3, 2009 7:00 pm

"Nobody got hurt..."

Except for the one in fifty survivor from those classes that has to explain in 10 years why the 30 year bond he sold when interest rates were virtually zero is plummetted in value.   "Don't worry Mr. Client, it's just 'paper loss'"
Sep 3, 2009 8:02 pm

[quote=j.wehman]
Im not gonna stoop to your childish level.  If you understand anything in finance then you would know that the banks themselves + democrats + government owned Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac caused the crash of the mortgage market.  They are the ones that created the loan programs and paid brokers millions to sell them.  You have no one to blame but yourself.
Go ahead and be a pissed off person cause you lost your whole whopping 1000 dollars in life savings.
All I ask for is a mentor to help me out with the stock market and you all run in and bash me for no f***ing reason. 
[/quote]

Wow, your spelling and grammar just got so much better on your later posts…You must have started those college courses Ice recommended…

Sep 4, 2009 12:19 pm

I hate to point this out, but guys like this are the reason the markets couldn’t possibly be efficient.

Sep 4, 2009 12:39 pm
iceco1d:

[quote=Moraen]I hate to point this out, but guys like this are the reason the markets couldn’t possibly be efficient.









Haha, completely agree. There will always be uninformed morons, so markets will never experience perfect efficiency. But you do have to consider how much “weight” this toolboxes trades will have.[/quote]



True, very true. 300 shares of AIG divided by 20, is likely not going to make much of an impact.
Sep 4, 2009 1:16 pm

There are HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of these guys out there every day. Using their e-trade and sharebuilder accounts trying to turn their 300.00 into 30,000.00. I think they make an impact.

Sep 4, 2009 1:25 pm

Of course $300 x 300,000 would not make an impact on the market as a whole but they do make an impact on certain issues, I think.  I used $300 as an example - truth is people use their old 401k often times as play money, so alot more money is at play for the tools trying to find the next fad:  ford, fannie, freddie, cit, aig, XM – etc. etc.

Again, don’t think they impact the broader market but individual companies? I think they could and do.

Sep 4, 2009 7:46 pm

There was a story published in a book called “The New Kings of Non-Fiction.”  It was about a 13 year old kid who would use stock message boards to blow up companies as “hot tips”  He would use his dad’s etrade account to buy these penny stocks, then go online and make all these losers believe that this company was the next big thing.  The stock would skyrocket artificially overnight and the kid made like 1.8mm in 3 months.  The SEC literally came knocking at his door.  This was back in the mid-ninties.  They arrested the kid and brought he and his folks in for questioning.  The problem was, at the time there were no  laws in place  that this kid was breaking.  It was brilliant.  The SEC brought a case against this kid, I don’t remember specifically what they brought him down on.  I do remember that the kid had to give like 1.3mm to the SEC as a penalty and was banned for life from the industry.  I’m pretty sure the D-Bag who started this thread IS this kid.  Difference being, that kid was brilliant, and the guy who started this thread is… a D-Bag.

Sep 5, 2009 9:08 am

so now im a dousche bag for simply asking for a mentor in the south florida area… im new to the area is that such a problem.  and all you people wanna bash somone who is trying to see who in the area would take them under their wing.  i do not understand what i did for all of you to start bashing on me.

someone please explain
thanks

Sep 5, 2009 12:26 pm

[quote=j.wehman] so now im a dousche bag for simply asking for a mentor in the south florida area… im new to the area is that such a problem. and all you people wanna bash somone who is trying to see who in the area would take them under their wing. i do not understand what i did for all of you to start bashing on me.someone please explainthanks

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are you… crying?

Sep 5, 2009 5:17 pm

[quote=Moraen] [quote=j.wehman] so now im a dousche bag for simply asking for a mentor in the south florida area… im new to the area is that such a problem. and all you people wanna bash somone who is trying to see who in the area would take them under their wing. i do not understand what i did for all of you to start bashing on me.someone please explainthanks

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are you… crying? [/quote]



There’s no crying in baseball …



But to answer the original question … on the whole, we consider ourselves professionals. Our time is worth money and you are wasting it. Go to the bulk food section of your local grocer, grab some cashews and see what the lady is offering for samples over by the meat section.





Sep 5, 2009 6:49 pm

ok fine i spelled douche wrong… its not everyday i take a look into that word to learn how to spell it…  but you all consider yourselves professionals… only real professionals have read the book think and grow rich by napoleon hill, and he clearly states that “you must give something for nothing if you want to be successful”; andrew carnage states the same exact thing and if you are all such “professionals” you will know who those two are.

i never thought posting on a forum asking for help was wasting your time and money.  if that was the case why are you even trying to bash me?  wouldn’t you just ignore me then if that were the case?

also i did not grow up such a lucky person like the rest of you… i got into the mortgage market to make good money and to send myself to school, because my parents did not want to give me any money or sh*t to help me out in anyway for school. i do have my associates in business finance right now.  i’m back to school to finally finish up.

anyways im sick of playing with you big bad college degree corporate types.  good luck to all you “professionals”  and i wish great success to you all.

Sep 5, 2009 6:59 pm

Show people respect, and you might gain that “something for nothing”.



You have reaped as you have sown, sir. And insofar as growing up lucky … don’t assume for a minute that we had our educations paid for, or that perchance our lives might have been worse than yours.



On the other hand, you want something for nothing. I’ve read Carnegie and Hill; I’m pretty sure neither one ever indicated you should expect something for nothing. Perhaps you can prove me wrong. Either way, I won’t lose a minutes sleep over someone as petulant as yourself.



Sep 5, 2009 7:01 pm

Look man, no one wishes you ill will.  But no one on here is willing to
"mentor" a complete stranger about the business for free.  I’ll
tell you what . . . You give me some good prospects I can talk to,
maybe your parents or whoever where I can manage their assets (1
million, 300K, heck even 50K), then we can talk about mentoring.  And
something worthwhile too.  Not your buddy who wants to open a Roth at
50/month.  If you can do that, more people would be willing to help
out.

Sep 5, 2009 7:15 pm

[quote=LockEDJ]Show people respect, and you might gain that “something for nothing”.



You have reaped as you have sown, sir. And insofar as growing up lucky … don’t assume for a minute that we had our educations paid for, or that perchance our lives might have been worse than yours.



On the other hand, you want something for nothing. I’ve read Carnegie and Hill; I’m pretty sure neither one ever indicated you should expect something for nothing. Perhaps you can prove me wrong. Either way, I won’t lose a minutes sleep over someone as petulant as yourself.



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let me clarify on that “something for nothing” ex. giving a homeless guy on the street a set of cloths, one shower, and some food, and he gives you nothing… However down the road you will receive something even greater.

sorry for being ignorant to the fact that you guys get paid for giving advice. someone pmed me and let me know why you all got so insulted.  forgive me ill never come around again.

Sep 5, 2009 8:43 pm

I’ll do it. You can start out doing what I did. Making cold calls & lots of them. Your first project is to make as many appointments for me as you can by talking to at least 40 people per day. I ruined the last two interns that said they wanted to learn the business.

  You game?
Sep 5, 2009 9:54 pm

[quote=Gaddock]I’ll do it. You can start out doing what I did. Making cold calls & lots of them. Your first project is to make as many appointments for me as you can by talking to at least 40 people per day. I ruined the last two interns that said they wanted to learn the business.

  You game?[/quote]   Lemme guess - they were aspiring "Private Wealth Managers" who thought all they needed to do was go to the local Chamber events and they'd be solid. 
Sep 5, 2009 9:58 pm

iceco1d


andrew carnagie… sorry i left the i out i have a wireless keyboard and i type fast so there tends to be problems.  and this isnt an english class you tool and i am not trying to impress you, so ill go ahead and type however i want you grammar nazi.  is it safe to assume that you are actually a low life english teacher who thinks hes some big time stock broker?

you must hate your life if you have nothing better to do then to talk sh*t on a forum, on top of that you really must hate your life if you feel the need to act as an english teacher on a forum.

do not think that i have never had to go through what you guys have went through.  i made 1000’s of cold calls, ive spoken to 1000’s of people to obtain business, went to numerous seminars, walked door to door. ive pulled out a phone book and went down the whole entire list of names and numbers while cold calling… have you ever done that?

and when people have asked me for help, i sure as hell never punched them in the face and said “im a professional, you want my help then you must pay me.”  i helped them out the best i could.

you are one pissed off and cruel person i think you should get some help, or you’ll never find happiness in life. 

Sep 5, 2009 10:15 pm

You’re still here?

Sep 5, 2009 10:52 pm

“do not think that i have never had to go through what you guys have went through.”

  There's actually a crucial difference.     It's not about calling people or having seminars or going door to door or pulling out a phone book all the while not having English or spelling skills, but having a positive attitude.  It's about turning people into clients and having a profitable business.  That is where we have succeeded and you are a tool who has failed.
Sep 5, 2009 11:05 pm

[quote=deekay][quote=Gaddock]I’ll do it. You can start out doing what I did. Making cold calls & lots of them. Your first project is to make as many appointments for me as you can by talking to at least 40 people per day. I ruined the last two interns that said they wanted to learn the business.

  You game?[/quote]   Lemme guess - they were aspiring "Private Wealth Managers" who thought all they needed to do was go to the local Chamber events and they'd be solid. [/quote]   Most would shuffle paper and stuff envelopes. When they asked if they could work with me I would ask if they really wanted to know how to start off in this business. They would happily say yes yes. So I started them cold calling. None lasted. I think a lot of people think you get your series 7 and the phone just starts ringing. Younger people seem to think they simply deserve it. IMHO
Sep 6, 2009 12:48 am

ha ha … There are some self-righteous mother fckrs posting on this thread. “Time is money” get the hell out of here. There are 100 pages of crap dedicated to outing Windy. Professional my ass!



Bash the guy, whatever, but don’t act like he is wasting your time posting in the “rookie” forum so a bunch of vets can ride him for “wasting their time”. Ya’ll are classic!



Bro … You are not wasting my time. Post away asking for stupid advice!

Sep 7, 2009 4:04 pm

He’s not wasting my time… he’s wasting his.



And if you want to associate with an idiot who thinks he is “good at trading stocks”, go for it volt. The guy is a moron. My first response was to tell him he was in the wrong place. He then proceeded to be stupid.

Sep 7, 2009 6:49 pm

j.wehman,

I offered and you never answered. Not very dedicated to this notion are you.
Sep 7, 2009 6:58 pm

[quote=Moraen]He’s not wasting my time… he’s wasting his.



And if you want to associate with an idiot who thinks he is “good at trading stocks”, go for it volt. The guy is a moron. My first response was to tell him he was in the wrong place. He then proceeded to be stupid.[/quote]

I’m not sticking up the guy, he’s a non-issue for me.  It’s some of the responses that amuse me.

Sep 8, 2009 1:25 pm
j.wehman:

iceco1d

andrew carnagie… sorry i left the i out i have a wireless keyboard and i type fast so there tends to be problems.  and this isnt an english class you tool and i am not trying to impress you, so ill go ahead and type however i want you grammar nazi.  is it safe to assume that you are actually a low life english teacher who thinks hes some big time stock broker?

you must hate your life if you have nothing better to do then to talk sh*t on a forum, on top of that you really must hate your life if you feel the need to act as an english teacher on a forum.

do not think that i have never had to go through what you guys have went through.  i made 1000’s of cold calls, ive spoken to 1000’s of people to obtain business, went to numerous seminars, walked door to door. ive pulled out a phone book and went down the whole entire list of names and numbers while cold calling… have you ever done that?

and when people have asked me for help, i sure as hell never punched them in the face and said “im a professional, you want my help then you must pay me.”  i helped them out the best i could.

you are one pissed off and cruel person i think you should get some help, or you’ll never find happiness in life. 

  While not an English class, English just happens to be the primary language of most of our clients, so we try to speak it.   And...professionals get paid to do their work. That's the definition of "professional". You want advice? Go hire a professional or stop being a piker and do the work to become one.   I would take Gaddock's offer, that's the closest you're going to get to "something for nothing".
Sep 8, 2009 3:13 pm

Three things:
1. j.wehman clearly doesn’t know what he is doing yet.
2. I can’t think of a better place for him to ask his stupid questions.
3. Andrew Carnegie hired goons to shoot people who wanted raises…good role model.

Sep 8, 2009 3:32 pm
Still@jones:

Three things:
1. j.wehman clearly doesn’t know what he is doing yet.
2. I can’t think of a better place for him to ask his stupid questions.
3. Andrew Carnegie hired goons to shoot people who wanted raises…good role model.

  Some people want their kids to look at Obama as a role-model.   How many people have died in his wars so far this year?
Sep 8, 2009 3:45 pm

[quote=BerkshireBull]

  Some people want their kids to look at Obama as a role-model.   How many people have died in his wars so far this year?[/quote]   I'm not sure, the media is not reporting it and there is not an anti-war protester to be found these days.
Sep 8, 2009 7:39 pm

[quote=Still@jones]Three things:

2. I can't think of a better place for him to ask his stupid questions.
...
[/quote]   Now, as I recall, you aren't exactly working in this field right now ... correct? So, yeah, I guess if he asked you these questions, there really wouldn't be a better place to ask the stupid questions.   Signed, Self-righteous mfker (with thanks to Volt)
Sep 8, 2009 11:39 pm

lol … dude, you are wasting my time

Sep 9, 2009 12:01 pm

waisssted dayz an waissted ny-ha-hats …

  :-)
Sep 10, 2009 1:03 am
BerkshireBull:

[quote=Still@jones]Three things:
1. j.wehman clearly doesn’t know what he is doing yet.
2. I can’t think of a better place for him to ask his stupid questions.
3. Andrew Carnegie hired goons to shoot people who wanted raises…good role model.

  Some people want their kids to look at Obama as a role-model.   How many people have died in his wars so far this year?[/quote]

Carnegie made his first million as a buyer for the railroads...he created a shell company in his mother's name and bought all the railroad bridges from her. He also killed a few of his employees who wanted raises...
Sep 10, 2009 1:29 am

[quote=voltmoie][quote=BerkshireBull]

  Some people want their kids to look at Obama as a role-model.   How many people have died in his wars so far this year?[/quote]   I'm not sure, the media is not reporting it and there is not an anti-war protester to be found these days.[/quote]

I'm thinking about creating a bumper-sticker that reads "Obama lied, they continue to die" and selling it
Sep 10, 2009 2:04 am

[quote=BerkshireBull]

[quote=voltmoie][quote=BerkshireBull]

  Some people want their kids to look at Obama as a role-model.   How many people have died in his wars so far this year?[/quote]   I'm not sure, the media is not reporting it and there is not an anti-war protester to be found these days.[/quote]

I'm thinking about creating a bumper-sticker that reads "Obama lied, they continue to die" and selling it
[/quote]

Because the POTUS changes, the mission and views on the war change? Afghanistan/Pakistan border region is one of the most volatile regions in the world.  Little girls can't even go to school without worry of being killed and we should leave immediately? Iraq, on the other hand, I don't know what we're still doing there.  The Iraq that I was in is completely different that what it is now. 
Sep 10, 2009 12:47 pm

Army - not to bust your chops, but of course the views on the war change. The loud minorities (extreme liberals and conservatives) are what drive debate in this country.



I will say that in our little rural region of Iraq, we had the same problem as you are talking about in Afghanistan. We built girl-only schools, but people were still trying to target them. To be honest, I take a more isolationist attitude and think we shouldn’t be in either country. But that’s how you get bombed.



As for “Obama lied, they continue to die”. I’ll say the same thing I said when G.W.B. was in office. Less Americans have died in Iraq and Afghanistan combined than in the municipality down the street from me. One soldier dying is too many, but that is what we signed up to do. Make no mistake, it is a dangerous job. But that’s why we are the greatest military on the face of the earth, we train for it.



Personally I think G.W. is a good man and had a difficult job after 9/11. I also think that Obama is a good man, with a tough road ahead of him. I would never want to be POTUS. And I find it difficult to criticize anyone who attempts the job.

Sep 10, 2009 12:58 pm

[quote=Moraen]Army - not to bust your chops, but of course the views on the war change. The loud minorities (extreme liberals and conservatives) are what drive debate in this country.



I will say that in our little rural region of Iraq, we had the same problem as you are talking about in Afghanistan. We built girl-only schools, but people were still trying to target them. To be honest, I take a more isolationist attitude and think we shouldn’t be in either country. But that’s how you get bombed.



As for “Obama lied, they continue to die”. I’ll say the same thing I said when G.W.B. was in office. Less Americans have died in Iraq and Afghanistan combined than in the municipality down the street from me. One soldier dying is too many, but that is what we signed up to do. Make no mistake, it is a dangerous job. But that’s why we are the greatest military on the face of the earth, we train for it.



Personally I think G.W. is a good man and had a difficult job after 9/11. I also think that Obama is a good man, with a tough road ahead of him. I would never want to be POTUS. And I find it difficult to criticize anyone who attempts the job.[/quote]

That and we spend more on our military than UK, China, France, Japan, and the next ten largest countries combined. 

I realize China under reports but my point is still the same. 

Sep 10, 2009 2:41 pm
Moraen:

Army - not to bust your chops, but of course the views on the war change. The loud minorities (extreme liberals and conservatives) are what drive debate in this country.

I will say that in our little rural region of Iraq, we had the same problem as you are talking about in Afghanistan. We built girl-only schools, but people were still trying to target them. To be honest, I take a more isolationist attitude and think we shouldn’t be in either country. But that’s how you get bombed.

As for “Obama lied, they continue to die”. I’ll say the same thing I said when G.W.B. was in office. Less Americans have died in Iraq and Afghanistan combined than in the municipality down the street from me. One soldier dying is too many, but that is what we signed up to do. Make no mistake, it is a dangerous job. But that’s why we are the greatest military on the face of the earth, we train for it.

Personally I think G.W. is a good man and had a difficult job after 9/11. I also think that Obama is a good man, with a tough road ahead of him. I would never want to be POTUS. And I find it difficult to criticize anyone who attempts the job.

  I couldn't agree with you more brother.  I'm an Independent that slants toward the Libertarian Party and agree with taking care of our own house as well but if we just up and leave from both countries right now, complete chaos would ensue.  You are absolutely right, that it's a tough situation for anyone to be in.  I definitely don't envy the man with the decisions he has to make.    What really irks me is that our fellow brothers and sisters in arms are dying over there while these freaking civilians here are worried about Jon & Kate!!! I can't watch any regular news channel without seeing their ugly mugs plastered everywhere.  That drives me insane!!
Sep 10, 2009 3:07 pm

George Bush is a classic example of why honest men should never go to Washington.  He does so and gets dumped on and drug through the mud for 8 years.

  Meanwhile a murderer named Ted Kennedy is held up as an American Hero in Washington.   Go figure...
Sep 10, 2009 3:13 pm
 Army, there are two types of wars civilizations fight.  Ones that threaten their existence and ones that politicians start for their own reasons.  I forget the academic names but the premise is simple enough.  A population will never back a war long term in which it's existence is not threatened.  Compair War War II to Korea - exact same population base. Blame the politicians ... not the people at home.   In my humble opinion, if we have not declared war we should not be engaged in the conflict. If the threat does not threaten our sovereignty we should not declare war.  Of course, I think the constitution says that also?   Time to doorknock.... damn!
Sep 10, 2009 3:22 pm

[quote=BerkshireBull]George Bush is a classic example of why honest men should never go to Washington.  He does so and gets dumped on and drug through the mud for 8 years.

  Meanwhile a murderer named Ted Kennedy is held up as an American Hero in Washington.   Go figure...[/quote]   Trust me, I'm not fan of Ted Kennedy but murderer? That's a little harsh man.  What he did is beyond comprehension to me but I wouldn't say murderer.  Laura Bush killed someone when she ran a stop sign, would she count as a murderer?
Sep 10, 2009 3:31 pm

[quote=army13A][quote=BerkshireBull]George Bush is a classic example of why honest men should never go to Washington.  He does so and gets dumped on and drug through the mud for 8 years.

  Meanwhile a murderer named Ted Kennedy is held up as an American Hero in Washington.   Go figure...[/quote]   Trust me, I'm not fan of Ted Kennedy but murderer? That's a little harsh man.  What he did is beyond comprehension to me but I wouldn't say murderer.  Laura Bush killed someone when she ran a stop sign, would she count as a murderer? [/quote]   Only if you're a Democrat.
Sep 10, 2009 3:40 pm
j.wehman:


However I have been doing most of the right things and saving my paychecks and investing into the stock market with it.  I only got lucky with aig as i bought in back in March when it was around 3 dollars and selling half my shares at 45 dollars.  Other than that my portfolio is all over the place.

    So you bought at 3.00 a share and sold at 2.25?   If this is "lucky," I would really like to know what your other investments have done.   Next time you lie about the investments you make, you may want to check for splits and reverse splits first.  
Sep 10, 2009 3:53 pm

[quote=SometimesNowhere][quote=army13A][quote=BerkshireBull]George Bush is a classic example of why honest men should never go to Washington.  He does so and gets dumped on and drug through the mud for 8 years.

  Meanwhile a murderer named Ted Kennedy is held up as an American Hero in Washington.   Go figure...[/quote]   Trust me, I'm not fan of Ted Kennedy but murderer? That's a little harsh man.  What he did is beyond comprehension to me but I wouldn't say murderer.  Laura Bush killed someone when she ran a stop sign, would she count as a murderer? [/quote]   Only if you're a Democrat.[/quote]   LOL, it's funny to me as an independent (I despise both parties and  I don't think either represent the American people fairly) how each side go at each other.  I have friends on the extreme right and left who swear they are not crazy when I tell them they're wacko; they think they're normal.      The only thing I can find remotely close to my views are the Libertarian party: REALLY low taxes; no govt intrusion into anything that is personal to me or any one else (two dudes want to file a joint tax return, I couldn't care less or whether two consensual adults want to have sex for money, who gives a rat's a**); flex our military power when it's needed and if it's not needed, take care of our own home first; promote good values and morals.    This thread is getting way off topic, lol
Sep 10, 2009 4:24 pm
army13A:

[quote=Moraen]Army - not to bust your chops, but of course the views on the war change. The loud minorities (extreme liberals and conservatives) are what drive debate in this country.

I will say that in our little rural region of Iraq, we had the same problem as you are talking about in Afghanistan. We built girl-only schools, but people were still trying to target them. To be honest, I take a more isolationist attitude and think we shouldn’t be in either country. But that’s how you get bombed.

As for “Obama lied, they continue to die”. I’ll say the same thing I said when G.W.B. was in office. Less Americans have died in Iraq and Afghanistan combined than in the municipality down the street from me. One soldier dying is too many, but that is what we signed up to do. Make no mistake, it is a dangerous job. But that’s why we are the greatest military on the face of the earth, we train for it.

Personally I think G.W. is a good man and had a difficult job after 9/11. I also think that Obama is a good man, with a tough road ahead of him. I would never want to be POTUS. And I find it difficult to criticize anyone who attempts the job.

  I couldn't agree with you more brother.  I'm an Independent that slants toward the Libertarian Party and agree with taking care of our own house as well but if we just up and leave from both countries right now, complete chaos would ensue.  You are absolutely right, that it's a tough situation for anyone to be in.  I definitely don't envy the man with the decisions he has to make.    What really irks me is that our fellow brothers and sisters in arms are dying over there while these freaking civilians here are worried about Jon & Kate!!! I can't watch any regular news channel without seeing their ugly mugs plastered everywhere.  That drives me insane!! [/quote]   Actually Army, and I don't have to tell you this....our fellow brothers and sisters in arms are dying over there SO the civilians here can worry about Jon & Kate!  And speaking for myself, I appreciate it wholeheartedly!  I think that is what makes our Armed Forces and our Country so great!  Our brave men & woman risk their lives so that American Citizens can go on living theirs!  Thank you for your service (Moraen too!)
Sep 10, 2009 8:33 pm

Since this thread is so far off topic, check out the guy in the video.  I love this guy!  Capitalism, entrepreneurial spirit and patriotism all in one.  I think I’m going to follow his lead and give one away for every $100k I get from a new client.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNmi-bBhWG8


Sep 10, 2009 8:56 pm
KensLoveChild:

Since this thread is so far off topic, check out the guy in the video.  I love this guy!  Capitalism, entrepreneurial spirit and patriotism all in one.  I think I’m going to follow his lead and give one away for every $100k I get from a new client.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNmi-bBhWG8


  That video was awesome.  If there was a way that ALL GUNS were taken off the streets except for military and law enforcement, I'd have no problem with not being able to carry and bear arms.  But since that is impossible, I keep my trigger squeeze and shot group tight.     
Sep 10, 2009 9:31 pm

Army, there is no way you have a Libertarian bone in your body with that statement.  I don’t need guns to protect myself from fellow citizens … it’s the military and law enforment I’m worried about.    aka: government

  Long live the king
Sep 10, 2009 9:49 pm

Completely off topic but i did not know where to post so here goes… i work in oil and gas and the new company i work for requires series 22 and 63. I am on probation , will that affect my ability to get liscensed? Thanks for any help

Sep 10, 2009 11:05 pm

[quote=TXoilandgas]Completely off topic but i did not know where to post so here goes… i work in oil and gas and the new company i work for requires series 22 and 63. I am on probation , will that affect my ability to get liscensed? Thanks for any help[/quote]




buzz kill

Sep 10, 2009 11:19 pm

any explanation or a site where i could reference this would be appreciated

Sep 10, 2009 11:47 pm

[quote=Moraen]…Less Americans have died in Iraq and Afghanistan combined than in the municipality down the street from me. [/quote]

Where the f**k do you live??? Sudan??? That’s almost 1,000 people per year!!! 

Sep 11, 2009 3:15 am

[quote=voltmoie]Army, there is no way you have a Libertarian bone in your body with that statement.  I don’t need guns to protect myself from fellow citizens … it’s the military and law enforment I’m worried about.    aka: government

  Long live the king[/quote]

I don't trust certain government entities: IRS, Federal Reserve.  It's not the military and law enforcement that are stacking up American prisons.  It's low lives who have no respect for human life and personal property and who don't deserve to breathe the same air we do.  We should put all felons on one freaking island, drop weapons with them and let them sort each other out. 
Sep 11, 2009 1:44 pm

I think its funny that prison over-crowding is such an issue.  What does a new prison cost? $100mm, max?  We spend that in court costs to get peoples sentences reduced every day.  I say we bite the bullet, build 50 new prisons and call it a day.

Sep 14, 2009 12:13 pm
UNDERMINDED:

I think its funny that prison over-crowding is such an issue. What does a new prison cost? $100mm, max? We spend that in court costs to get peoples sentences reduced every day. I say we bite the bullet, build 50 new prisons and call it a day.



The English had the right idea. Find a continent a half a world away. Populate it with the people you don't want. Sounds like Antarctica to me.

Sep 14, 2009 12:19 pm
LockEDJ:

[quote=UNDERMINDED] I think its funny that prison over-crowding is such an issue. What does a new prison cost? $100mm, max? We spend that in court costs to get peoples sentences reduced every day. I say we bite the bullet, build 50 new prisons and call it a day.



The English had the right idea. Find a continent a half a world away. Populate it with the people you don't want. Sounds like Antarctica to me.

[/quote]

ACLU would be all over it in a heartbeat. No way you could get away with that in the 21st century. Although the convicts turned out a useful country.

Austrailians are some refreshing people. No hangups about political correctness.
Sep 14, 2009 1:10 pm

aahhh, now Morean … I always counted on you to have a sense of humor.

Sep 14, 2009 1:13 pm

I know. I just don’t think it’s funny. I would LOVE to ship convicts to Antarctica. Or at least politicians.



Here is my solution to government problems. All of Congress has to STAY in Antarctica until they can come up with a way to reduce the money we are spending and balance the budget. How quickly do you think we’d have that one done?

Sep 14, 2009 3:05 pm
Moraen:

…Here is my solution to government problems. All of Congress has to STAY in Antarctica until they can come up with a way to reduce the money we are spending and balance the budget. How quickly do you think we’d have that one done?

  I've got some concerns about hot air, the polar cap and global warming on that one.