This site sucks!

Jun 15, 2005 7:45 am

I’ve visited this site a few times looking for Series 7/66 advice, and
for every one informative post, there are 10 “my dick is bigger than
yours” posts.



There’s got to be a more helpful site out there… Anyone?

Jun 15, 2005 9:14 am

Its not the forum. Its Put Trader.

Jun 15, 2005 12:32 pm

[quote=GreenShoe]Its not the forum. Its Put Trader.[/quote]



What a perfect time it would have been for this jerk to contribute something meaningful.



But as always Greenshoe is unable to add anything–just another slacker
loser destined or the used car lot by the time he’s forty.



And to think there are those who believe that there is little hope for
the future of the country when the slackers are all that’s left.

Jun 15, 2005 12:34 pm

Put, you just confirmed what Spudman complained about.

Jun 15, 2005 1:31 pm

Yeah, well Spudman, my dick is bigger than yours!

Jun 15, 2005 7:43 pm

Put Trader is a phony and sham and you can see that more than one person feels this way.

Please post your questions or IM me.  I have just passed the 7 and 66 and I would be happy to help you in anyway I can.

 . . . And all you have to do is pass, contrary to what others may tell you.  That is what my Dearborn instructor told us and he has a successful practice in addition to being an instructor.  I would take his advice over people like Put Trader whose goal seems to PUT people down instead of helping them.

Jun 15, 2005 7:49 pm

[quote=maybeeeeeeee]

Put Trader is a phony and sham and you can see that more than one person feels this way.

Please post your questions or IM me.  I have just passed the 7 and 66 and I would be happy to help you in anyway I can.

 . . . And all you have to do is pass, contrary to what others may tell you.  That is what my Dearborn instructor told us and he has a successful practice in addition to being an instructor.  I would take his advice over people like Put Trader whose goal seems to PUT people down instead of helping them.

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Tell me again, girly, how does somebody who is accustomed to achieving set aside their self-esteem and end up like you--doing as little as possible to get by?
Jun 15, 2005 8:31 pm

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Tell me again, girly, how does somebody who is accustomed to achieving set aside their self-esteem and end up like you--doing as little as possible to get by?
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Passing the 7 is definitely not 'doing as little as possible to get by'.  Why are you so hung up on test scores? Just b/c someone doesn't kill themselves to get the highest score doesn't mean they won't make an excellent advisor/broker.  Real hands-on experience is where advisors make it or fail...not on a computerized test.  Sometimes you have to focus your energy on what's important in the long run.

Jun 15, 2005 8:48 pm

[quote=maybeeeeeeee]

Put Trader is a phony and sham and you can see that more than one person feels this way.

Please post your questions or IM me.  I have just passed the 7 and 66 and I would be happy to help you in anyway I can.

 . . . And all you have to do is pass, contrary to what others may tell you.  That is what my Dearborn instructor told us and he has a successful practice in addition to being an instructor.  I would take his advice over people like Put Trader whose goal seems to PUT people down instead of helping them.

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I am taken by the arrogance of this girl.  She just passed her Series 7--no doubt on the second attempt--and now she's an expert.  What a joke.

As for the comment about a Dearborn instructor.  Here's the reality of the cram schools.

STC and Dearborn are both large organizations that have employee instructors.  The instructors are chosen because they're willing to accept between $35 and $40k per year.  They teach about 150 days a year--often out-of-town.

Since there is no need for them to be around unless they're teaching they're encouraged to take a lot of time off.  This is ideal if you're unambitious.

There are also a handful of individiuals who teach classes on their own.  If you're in a class with thirty people, and it's not a Dearborn or STC class, there's a pretty good chance that the guy or gal who is teaching the class got all the money that was paid by that crowd.

Suppose you were an instructor at Dearborn--earning $45,000.   Each class you teach probably involves between $10 and $15,000 in gross revenue......if you left Dearborn and did them on your own you'd only have to do three or four a year to match your income.

Another reality is that the instructors all invent biographies that include experience with NASD member firms--I actually sat in the back of an STC classroom one day and heard the instructor tell the group that she had been with our firm.  I went back to the office and checked--it's never good to lie to people who can check it out.

In any case, if you're sitting in a cram course and some 30 year old kid tells you about a "career" sit there and listen while sucking on a huge grain of salt--the odds are 99.9% that they got the job because they answered a "Trainer Wanted" ad in the newspaper.

They are judged by their passing ratio, so they do everything they can to encourage you to pass, including suggesting that a 70 is as good as 100.  The realiity is it isn't.

A few weeks ago I said that if your career ambitions include things beyond entry level brokering there is a better than even chance that decision makers will set your file aside if they see that you did not get at least an 85 on the Series 7.

Such policies are often informal, meaning that they are not in writing--but when it comes time to deciding who will be a good leader of a branch why in the world would the decision maker choose somebody who could not bother to try hard enough on the Series 7 to get at least an 85?

Where is the pride in doing just enough to get by?


Jun 16, 2005 2:18 am

[quote=Spudman]I've visited this site a few times looking for Series 7/66 advice, and for every one informative post, there are 10 "my dick is bigger than yours" posts.

There's got to be a more helpful site out there... Anyone?
[/quote]

What would you expect from a board of "Boiler Room" wannabes?

Even the hucksters in "Glengarry Glen Ross" have more professionalism and class.

Jun 16, 2005 2:20 am

And, by the way, the Series 7 ain't $#!+ to pass for anyone with three or more working brain cells.

If you can't pass the 7 on the first attempt, remove yourself from the gene pool immediately so as to preserve life as we know it.

Jun 16, 2005 2:39 am

Spudman- If you can’t come up with a better name than that then don’t sling crap. I personally wouldn’t start throwing haymakers until I at least passed the Series 7. You’ll probably end up as a primerica agent anyway with your lousy attitude…

Jun 16, 2005 6:29 pm

Put Trader a bigot, a big mouth and a pig.

Girly?  You have now identified yourself as being lower than I thought.  Is this how you address other professional women?

I passed the first time thru and in 10 weeks for both the 7 and the 66.  Now I am building my business.  Everyone has to start somewhere.  I have a happy husband and happy children.  Bet you sleep alone everynight with your five fingered friend.

Jun 16, 2005 10:09 pm

[quote=noggin]Spudman- If you can’t come up with a better name than
that then don’t sling crap. I personally wouldn’t start throwing
haymakers until I at least passed the Series 7. You’ll probably end up
as a primerica agent anyway with your lousy attitude…[/quote]



Yeah, I guess my nickname isn’t quite as cool as yours.  I mean,
what is better than naming yourself after a kid’s television
channel? 



I’m not slinging crap.  Are you saying that you disagree with my
original post?  Look at all the responses to this thread. 
How many have actually given me the information I asked for?  Case
closed.



By the way, I’ve already passed my Series 7, so I guess I’m entitled to throw a few haymakers.


Jun 17, 2005 1:22 am

Are there any better websites?

Jun 17, 2005 1:48 am

[quote=preti9cboi]Are there any better websites?
[/quote]



It is my understanding that there are several hundred websites–no doubt four or five of them would be better.



Technology is always changing.

Jun 17, 2005 2:29 am

If you do find another website PM everyone except Put and let us know. 

Mar 14, 2007 5:40 am

[quote=Spudman][quote=noggin]Spudman- If you can't come up with a better name than that then don't sling crap. I personally wouldn't start throwing haymakers until I at least passed the Series 7. You'll probably end up as a primerica agent anyway with your lousy attitude....[/quote]

Yeah, I guess my nickname isn't quite as cool as yours.  I mean, what is better than naming yourself after a kid's television channel? 

I'm not slinging crap.  Are you saying that you disagree with my original post?  Look at all the responses to this thread.  How many have actually given me the information I asked for?  Case closed.

By the way, I've already passed my Series 7, so I guess I'm entitled to throw a few haymakers.

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I totally agree...this website does suck, I just registered to introduce myself and say hello because I was just sponsored to take my S6 exam, as to all my other forums...and then I get all these crappy comments along with someone accusing me of being a troll...wtf is that? some people are awful.

Mar 14, 2007 9:23 am

[quote=PantsGoBrown]

What would you expect from a board of "Boiler Room" wannabes?

Even the hucksters in "Glengarry Glen Ross" have more professionalism and class.

[/quote]

Exactly. At first, I too was annoyed by what complete and total ***holes a lot of the people on this board are. Another example is how everytime anybody asks just about any question, they are told in a smart alec way to "use the search function, moron." People new to the board don't know about the search function, moron. Then I came to the realization this is a board full of white collar sales people. What else should I have expected other than huge egos and complete and total self-absorbtion?

Mar 14, 2007 1:31 pm

[quote=Nole32303][quote=PantsGoBrown]

What would you expect from a board of "Boiler Room" wannabes?

Even the hucksters in "Glengarry Glen Ross" have more professionalism and class.

[/quote]

Exactly. At first, I too was annoyed by what complete and total ***holes a lot of the people on this board are. Another example is how everytime anybody asks just about any question, they are told in a smart alec way to "use the search function, moron." People new to the board don't know about the search function, moron. Then I came to the realization this is a board full of white collar sales people. What else should I have expected other than huge egos and complete and total self-absorbtion?

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Ok so exactly what is your point?

Mar 14, 2007 1:53 pm

[quote=Nole32303][quote=PantsGoBrown]

What would you expect from a board of "Boiler Room" wannabes?

Even the hucksters in "Glengarry Glen Ross" have more professionalism and class.

[/quote]

Exactly. At first, I too was annoyed by what complete and total ***holes a lot of the people on this board are. Another example is how everytime anybody asks just about any question, they are told in a smart alec way to "use the search function, moron." People new to the board don't know about the search function, moron. Then I came to the realization this is a board full of white collar sales people. What else should I have expected other than huge egos and complete and total self-absorbtion?

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Hey Rookie if you're going to succeed in this business you are going to need to be less sensitive, learn to handle it better when you hear answers that aren't exactly what you wanted, and constantly be open to new strategies for success(like learning to use a "search" button).

So, if y'all don't know about the search button, and we see the same damn posts all the time with the same basic functions, what is wrong with us telling you that it is there and to use it?  Are we not being sweet enough to you when we suggest you use it?  AWWWWWWWWW  Guess what I've seen far worse treatment on other boards, including some which having nothing to do with this industry.

Grow up you whiner!
Mar 14, 2007 3:01 pm

What else should I have expected other than huge egos and complete and total self-absorbtion?

Now you've got it.  Understand this and you will be able to cope with the wirehouse environment.

Mar 14, 2007 9:31 pm

[quote=joedabrkr] [/quote]

Hey Rookie if you're going to succeed in this business you are going to need to be less sensitive, learn to handle it better when you hear answers that aren't exactly what you wanted, and constantly be open to new strategies for success(like learning to use a "search" button).

So, if y'all don't know about the search button, and we see the same damn posts all the time with the same basic functions, what is wrong with us telling you that it is there and to use it?  Are we not being sweet enough to you when we suggest you use it?  AWWWWWWWWW  Guess what I've seen far worse treatment on other boards, including some which having nothing to do with this industry.

Grow up you whiner!
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2 things:

1.) I was not whining. I was validating somebody else's points. I have gotten use to the fact that you're a jerk and realize that I should expect it.

2.) You're the biggest jerk on this site and whenever I think about people who are completely unnecessarily rude to other posters because they have their head way too far up their @$$, I think of you first.

Mar 14, 2007 9:42 pm

[quote=Nole32303]

[quote=joedabrkr] [/quote]

Hey Rookie if you're going to succeed in this business you are going to need to be less sensitive, learn to handle it better when you hear answers that aren't exactly what you wanted, and constantly be open to new strategies for success(like learning to use a "search" button).

So, if y'all don't know about the search button, and we see the same damn posts all the time with the same basic functions, what is wrong with us telling you that it is there and to use it?  Are we not being sweet enough to you when we suggest you use it?  AWWWWWWWWW  Guess what I've seen far worse treatment on other boards, including some which having nothing to do with this industry.

Grow up you whiner!
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2 things:

1.) I was not whining. I was validating somebody else's points. I have gotten use to the fact that you're a jerk and realize that I should expect it.

2.) You're the biggest jerk on this site and whenever I think about people who are completely unnecessarily rude to other posters because they have their head way too far up their @$$, I think of you first.

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Is there anything I can do to knock Joe out of the "biggest jerk" spot?

Mar 14, 2007 10:19 pm

Is there anything I can do to knock Joe out of the "biggest jerk" spot?

LOL ... I'll bet there is. 

Mar 14, 2007 10:41 pm

[quote=Bobby Hull]Is there anything I can do to knock Joe out of the "biggest jerk" spot? [/quote]

OH! OH! PICK ME! PICK ME!!!

Mar 15, 2007 2:48 am

[quote=Bobby Hull]

Is there anything I can do to knock Joe out of the “biggest jerk” spot?

[/quote]

I think you’ve got a decent shot at it!
Mar 15, 2007 2:50 am

[quote=Nole32303]

2 things:

1.) I was not whining. I was validating somebody else's points. I have gotten use to the fact that you're a jerk and realize that I should expect it.

2.) You're the biggest jerk on this site and whenever I think about people who are completely unnecessarily rude to other posters because they have their head way too far up their @$$, I think of you first.

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Yes you were whining.  You were "validating" another whiner, which by extension means you were whining.  You'll find plenty of people like that in a wirehouse office who want to waste your time bitching about the long list of EXTERNAL reasons for their failure(stupid BOM, annoying clients, tough market, the regulators, etc).  It's your choice whether to waste your time whining with them or avoid them and do what you need to do to succeed.

If being honest is what makes me a jerk in your eyes, then I guess I'm a jerk.  I don't need your approval to be happy with my circumstances.
Mar 15, 2007 4:15 am

 Another dunk from Joe the Broker!!!! 

this man knows how to play the game... 

 

Mar 15, 2007 5:36 am

Mommy, Joe is being mean again.

Mar 15, 2007 6:24 am

[quote=EDJ4now]Mommy, Joe is being mean again.[/quote]

Too muckin fuch.......you guys are a riot.

Mar 16, 2007 5:11 am

[quote=ExPropTrader]

[quote=EDJ4now]Mommy, Joe is being mean again.[/quote]

Too muckin fuch.......you guys are a riot.

[/quote]

It is actually a direct quote from my 4 year old from a few hours earler, except her big brother's name isn't Joe.  Sometimes it just writes itself.

Mar 16, 2007 5:15 am

[quote=EDJ4now][quote=ExPropTrader]

[quote=EDJ4now]Mommy, Joe is being mean again.[/quote]

Too muckin fuch.......you guys are a riot.

[/quote]

It is actually a direct quote from my 4 year old from a few hours earler, except her big brother's name isn't Joe.  Sometimes it just writes itself.

[/quote]

Dude you are a true artiste!