Obama win Nobel Prize
Just have to say...Really!? The international community has got to be setting him up for a big fall.
Just unbelievable. I still have no clue what this guy has ever done. Not just as president, but even before that. Can someone give me a list ?
My wife just asked me what for. My guess is that he’s not a hawk. And his speech in Egypt. No real, definitive reason.
He graduated from undergrad at Columbia and law school at Harvard where he was president of the Harvard Law Review. 3 terms in the Illinois Senate and 1 term in the US Senate. You are a bank teller. Have a little respect for the office if not for the man......Just unbelievable. I still have no clue what this guy has ever done. Not just as president, but even before that. Can someone give me a list ?
[quote=Ron 14]Just unbelievable. I still have no clue what this guy has ever done. Not just as president, but even before that. Can someone give me a list ?
He graduated from undergrad at Columbia and law school at Harvard where he was president of the Harvard Law Review. 3 terms in the Illinois Senate and 1 term in the US Senate.
You are a bank teller.
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Doesn’t exactly apply to the whole “Peace” part of the Nobel prize.
Not even hasn't he done anything in his months as President so far, he actually won the award on a vote held back in February!!! He definitely hadn't accomplished anything in 2 weeks. This guy is a joke, and Nobel Prize still means absolutely nothing!!!
I agree with the guy Windy wants to be. Alfred Nobel would be pissed.
He graduated from undergrad at Columbia and law school at Harvard where he was president of the Harvard Law Review. 3 terms in the Illinois Senate and 1 term in the US Senate. You are a bank teller. Have a little respect for the office if not for the man......[/quote] Noggin - blow me. He was getting crushed in the Illinois polls for Senate by Jack Ryan and would have lost if it wasn't for the Jack's wife Jeri exposing the fact that Jack liked to have sex with her, his own wife, at peep shows.[quote=Ron 14]Just unbelievable. I still have no clue what this guy has ever done. Not just as president, but even before that. Can someone give me a list ?
He graduated from undergrad at Columbia and law school at Harvard where he was president of the Harvard Law Review. 3 terms in the Illinois Senate and 1 term in the US Senate. You are a bank teller. Have a little respect for the office if not for the man......[/quote] Noggin - blow me. He was getting crushed in the Illinois polls for Senate by Jack Ryan and would have lost if it wasn't for the Jack's wife Jeri exposing the fact that Jack liked to have sex with her, his own wife, at peep shows. [/quote] You are a symptom of this disease that goes throughout our culture.....respect, common courtesy and etiquette....these are things that you have none of..... When you are called out on your foolishly written statement your only comeback is to make 2 sexually based derisive remarks. Sad....[quote=noggin][quote=Ron 14]Just unbelievable. I still have no clue what this guy has ever done. Not just as president, but even before that. Can someone give me a list ?
the award was given for what he said he wants to do. Not what he’s done. Somehow that doesn’t line up with what an award is supposed to be. Hell, Bush wanted peace in the Middle East. He even tried to get people to go with him to Iraq.
Simply put, President Obama won the award because of rhetoric. Also, consider this: What if he hadn’t won?
And it did come to pass, as they sat and pondered that which must be pondered, and debated that which must be debated, and held forth on that which must be held forth upon, that one stood up among their midst, and cried out with a loud voice:
"Verily, it must be clear to all who sit amongst us that there is only One who is worthy of our adulation, whose shoes do tread upon paths of glory and greatness, whose lips have spake only words of unimaginable wisdom, whose buttocks have deposited only gleaming nuggets of wonder upon which we all do gaze in amazement, whose mighty prowess on gleaming courts of hardwood raises him to heights at which his knees do lodge within the nostrils of even King LeBron. Yea, only One stands to this description, and He must be the One." There was silence, and then nodding and quiet grunts of acquiescence as they looked to each other to see if there would rise up from their midst another who would speak upon their task at hand. Slowly, one did gather his scholarly garb about himself and take to his feet, and spake quickly these words: "Uh, not to be Debbie Downer here, but we already gave it to Yasser Arafat, and besides, he's dead now, so although we all agree that he deserves it every year, and that he could take LeBron to school, we've got to come up with someone else." They were crestfallen, and didst pout and whine and stamp their little feet and ball up their pasty, white hands in fists of sullen rage at this news. Why must Yasser Arafat still be dead? Can nothing ever go the way it should on this crazy, mixed up orb? Who, who, who can stretch up high enough to even braid the hairs upon the toes of Yasser Arafat, much less to hold an honor equal to that which this body doth bestow upon Shining Pillars of Mankind's Light and Glory? Could there ever be another? Could there??? Quietly, from a corner of the mighty hall there came a squeak as a chair moved back, and a rustle as Garbs of Wisdom were gathered about limbs and torso, and one of the Illuminati moved forward into the light. He raised a hand and extended a finger, as if to silence his brethren, or to perhaps dislodge a rolled up sphere of mucus, they weren't quite sure, and then he didst speak: "There is Another. One who has come from the same fold as our Wonderous Beloved Sower of the Seeds of Peace and Prosperity, Master Arafat, and the time has come that we shout forth for the whole world to hear that He has our undivided endorsement as Omniscient Oracle of Omnipotence. You all know of Whom I speak. It must be Him. So let it be written, so let it be done...." Dateline: Oslo, Norway - In a surprising announcement today, it was revealed that the Nobel Peace Prize has been awarded to Michael Moore for his untiring and relentless service to mankind. In lieu of the usual cash award, the Committee has decided to provide Mr. Moore with a combination of Jenny Craig gift certificates and 100,000 copies of Al Gore's latest narrative entitled, "The Heat Within My Own Urine Can Power This Planet For 1000 Years." Mr. Moore was unavailable for comment.He graduated from undergrad at Columbia and law school at Harvard where he was president of the Harvard Law Review. 3 terms in the Illinois Senate and 1 term in the US Senate. You are a bank teller. Have a little respect for the office if not for the man......[/quote] Noggin - blow me. He was getting crushed in the Illinois polls for Senate by Jack Ryan and would have lost if it wasn't for the Jack's wife Jeri exposing the fact that Jack liked to have sex with her, his own wife, at peep shows. [/quote] You are a symptom of this disease that goes throughout our culture.....respect, common courtesy and etiquette....these are things that you have none of..... When you are called out on your foolishly written statement your only comeback is to make 2 sexually based derisive remarks. Sad....[/quote] Where is your respect and common courtesy referring to me as a bank teller ? Are you above being a teller ? You are too smart to do that job ? That seems a tad arrogant on your part, also a problem with this culture. Asking what he has done is foolishly written ? That Jack Ryan situation is true, look it up. You probably don't know anything about it because you are one of the many who follow President Barry around just because the media likes him.[quote=Ron 14][quote=noggin][quote=Ron 14]Just unbelievable. I still have no clue what this guy has ever done. Not just as president, but even before that. Can someone give me a list ?
He graduated from undergrad at Columbia and law school at Harvard where he was president of the Harvard Law Review. 3 terms in the Illinois Senate and 1 term in the US Senate. You are a bank teller. Have a little respect for the office if not for the man......[/quote] Noggin - blow me. He was getting crushed in the Illinois polls for Senate by Jack Ryan and would have lost if it wasn't for the Jack's wife Jeri exposing the fact that Jack liked to have sex with her, his own wife, at peep shows. [/quote] You are a symptom of this disease that goes throughout our culture.....respect, common courtesy and etiquette....these are things that you have none of..... When you are called out on your foolishly written statement your only comeback is to make 2 sexually based derisive remarks. Sad....[/quote] Where is your respect and common courtesy referring to me as a bank teller ? Are you above being a teller ? You are too smart to do that job ? That seems a tad arrogant on your part, also a problem with this culture. Asking what he has done is foolishly written ? That Jack Ryan situation is true, look it up. You probably don't know anything about it because you are one of the many who follow President Barry around just because the media likes him. [/quote] You misjudge me. My point was the office not the man. Your catch phrase is that you are a series 7 licensed bank teller, is that not true? I believe that leaders once voted in are our leaders whether I voted for them or not and therefore I pray for them to have wisdom to represent us well. We used to have a more civil society than we have now. Our generation wants everything now rather than working for a lifetime to achieve it as our parents did. That is the tone I detected in your comments. I answered your question as you asked what he had done prior to being president....for that you make some comment about me being one of those that likes someone just because the media does....[quote=noggin][quote=Ron 14][quote=noggin][quote=Ron 14]Just unbelievable. I still have no clue what this guy has ever done. Not just as president, but even before that. Can someone give me a list ?
[quote=Ron 14][quote=noggin][quote=Ron 14][quote=noggin][quote=Ron 14]Just unbelievable. I still have no clue what this guy has ever done. Not just as president, but even before that. Can someone give me a list ?
He graduated from undergrad at Columbia and law school at Harvard where he was president of the Harvard Law Review. 3 terms in the Illinois Senate and 1 term in the US Senate.
You are a bank teller.
Have a little respect for the office if not for the man…[/quote]
Noggin - blow me. He was getting crushed in the Illinois polls for Senate by Jack Ryan and would have lost if it wasn’t for the Jack’s wife Jeri exposing the fact that Jack liked to have sex with her, his own wife, at peep shows. [/quote]
You are a symptom of this disease that goes throughout our culture…respect, common courtesy and etiquette…these are things that you have none of…
When you are called out on your foolishly written statement your only comeback is to make 2 sexually based derisive remarks.
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Where is your respect and common courtesy referring to me as a bank teller ? Are you above being a teller ? You are too smart to do that job ? That seems a tad arrogant on your part, also a problem with this culture.
Asking what he has done is foolishly written ? That Jack Ryan situation is true, look it up. You probably don’t know anything about it because you are one of the many who follow President Barry around just because the media likes him. [/quote]
You misjudge me. My point was the office not the man. Your catch phrase is that you are a series 7 licensed bank teller, is that not true? I believe that leaders once voted in are our leaders whether I voted for them or not and therefore I pray for them to have wisdom to represent us well. We used to have a more civil society than we have now. Our generation wants everything now rather than working for a lifetime to achieve it as our parents did. That is the tone I detected in your comments. I answered your question as you asked what he had done prior to being president…for that you make some comment about me being one of those that likes someone just because the media does…
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Noggin - I agree with you about respecting the office and even the man.
But the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize now is following a disturbing trend since they gave it to Al Gore in '07. It’s a blatantly political award now.
Prior to Al Gore, who has won the Nobel Peace Prize and what for? Nelson Mandela - who spent nearly 30 years in prison before leading the people of South Africa to the end of apartheid. Jimmy Carter, who while people may not like him and think he was a horrible President, has spent 20 years building homes for the poor, promoting peace across the world. He won, AFTER he had done those things. Martin Luther King Jr., who I don’t think I even need to explain why he won it. Mother Theresa - need I say more?
Going to Columbia and becoming president of the Harvard Law Review are great personal accomplishments. But the Noble Peace Prize is about transcending self and dedicating your life to something greater.
Well I wasn’t talking about the office, I was talking about the man.
I am a bank teller. My point is that because you stand for "common courtesy and respect" you should be supportive of all professions no matter how irrelevant they may seem to you. Thanks for supporting my point. Yes, this generation wants everything now rather than working a lifetime to achieve it and THAT IS EXACTLY WHY OBAMA has become a savior when he hasn't done anything that anyone can recall.I am with you now since I got it in my noggin what you were saying…
Have a nice college football weekend....Not to run myself into the buzzsaw…
However, to be fair Obama hasn’t gotten a lot done because he has faced heavy partisan resistance. I believe he is a good man trying to accomplish a lot with good intentions.
It doesn’t matter what side you are on, there has been little substantive discussion, just a lot of scorched earth politics. For me, I would be elated if I could just have someone give me straight, objective information.
I agree, a Nobel Prize for Obama is a bit silly…especially this early in his term. But I think it also represents how much the international community did not like George Bush. That’s why they gave it to Gore too. They just thought Bush was a douche.
I am obviously in the minority, but I just don’t know what makes Obama so great and Bush so bad.
If Obama gives the million dollar prize to fight Aids in Africa or something, the present value of the money he might have earned from the prize for actually doing something in the future might equal the absurdity of rewarding his potential for making decisions that engender reasonable outcomes.
This is all just the politics of personal interest (like, big corporation jobs, big unions, big influence). Nowhere, the reason this all seems like scorched earth politics is because, the bill for what Obama has been doing has not come due yet. There's no way we can enjoy peace and save the earth when you just keep going into debt. Obama's peace will be a legacy of retrenchment: having done the easy easy things, and not the hard things. The irony of the prize for Obama, which is for leadership, is that it comes off like more of an inducement to keep going down the road of building a secular socialist America. If you don't believe this, look at how small business is being destroyed. If you're not working for the government, you are increasingly being screwed. That's not good for the wealth of humanity, or the condition of the earth. If you're looking for solutions, look to an economy that relies more on small business and less taxes. Everyone here should understand what I'm talking about. The facts of debt and guaranteeing benefits for certain workers speak for themselves, and there's nothing peaceful about servitude to debt, a corporation, a government, or fearfulness about world security.Ron, Obama is great and Bush is bad because of things like Twitter and 100 TV channels and attention deficit disorder. Oh, yeah, people don’t believe in God any more, just their own logic.
Reagan was bad because he busted the air traffic controllers, not great because he busted the Berlin Wall. Since we don't believe in anything anymore, it's all just art. You get points for being clever and making, not for having courage and doing the hard thing. Here's proof: Obama's sucking up to corporations and unions. Do you see how the corporations that Obama sucked up to initially to get support for health care, are now saying, wait a minute, the new bill is not our "deal"? What do you think is going to happen to Detroit? UAW workers don't pay one dime for their health care - I sure many of us here are paying over $10,000 per year for family health care (unless you're not self employed). If Obama does not take a cue from Clinton and move to the center - quickly - the Peace Prize itself may look foolish. Bush is a hero, but I do wonder about any Republican who starts a war. Big difference between starting a war and say, going after the terrorists wherever they may be hiding. Going forward, history will increasingly favor Bush and expose Obama. And don't forget what "average" IQ means. Look at what the democracy cat dragged in from the oak tree. http://www.milyunair.com/Going forward, history will increasingly favor Bush and expose Obama.
With a nation of terds who believe in nothing and stand for nothing, how the hell are we supposed to give long term financial advice ?Care to elaborate the heavy partisan resistance line? He came into office with a great deal of support and a country looking for change from the Bush years. His party has control of the house and the senante. The opposing party was/is in disarray with absolutely no leadership. This doesn't seem to qualify as heavy partisan resistance.Not to run myself into the buzzsaw…
However, to be fair Obama hasn’t gotten a lot done because he has faced heavy partisan resistance. I believe he is a good man trying to accomplish a lot with good intentions.
It doesn’t matter what side you are on, there has been little substantive discussion, just a lot of scorched earth politics. For me, I would be elated if I could just have someone give me straight, objective information.
Stepping into the fray, I’ll start by telling those of you that don’t already know, I did not vote for Obama. Of the top ten candidates in the last election cycle, I honestly can’t think of one that was less qualified to hold the office. Experience was and is a concern of mine when we elect a man whose resume is thinner than the paper it is written on.
I'll go further and opine that the Nobel Peace Prize award is...well...premature, to put it mildly. I seriously doubt the people of Pakistan and Afghanistan would agree that Obama is worthy. This award has essentially turned the awarding of the Peace Prize into a speech contest and has cheapened what I used to view as a very high honor. No wonder several of the folks at the announcement actually booed the decision. Yes, I'll support my president and I certainly won't cheer his failure, but I don't know that I'll ever shake the suspicion that I could do a better job myself. That frankly scares me.Well he did graduate from Columbia and Harvard law so you can’t rip on him, or so says noggin
I definitely don’t think he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize, especially when the voting was complete in February, a month after he took office. Columbia and Harvard is pretty amazing but PEACE prize? Definitely not earned.
I’m not a big fan of some of his policies, especially when he bashes Wall Street and says people should be scientists and not investment bankers. However, to be fair, I do think he is a good man who does believe he is doing what he believes is right. Also, he’s getting criticism from the far left and the right; he’s trying to govern from the center as much as he can and whenever you do that, either side will always be unhappy. Last, I don’t think he’s getting the same respect from Americans as the POTUS as others before him have. Never did W get heckled by Dems like how he has. I think it also has to do that the Repubs have more balls than the Dems but disrespect is disrespect and is not cool.
Care to elaborate the heavy partisan resistance line? He came into office with a great deal of support and a country looking for change from the Bush years. His party has control of the house and the senante. The opposing party was/is in disarray with absolutely no leadership. This doesn't seem to qualify as heavy partisan resistance. [/quote][quote=SometimesNowhere] Not to run myself into the buzzsaw…
However, to be fair Obama hasn’t gotten a lot done because he has faced heavy partisan resistance. I believe he is a good man trying to accomplish a lot with good intentions.
It doesn’t matter what side you are on, there has been little substantive discussion, just a lot of scorched earth politics. For me, I would be elated if I could just have someone give me straight, objective information.
Anon, seriously? Again, I'm not an Obama fan but if Obama sneezes the wrong way, the Republicans are on the pounce. A month into his office, people were already saying that he's going to be a one term president. Now, I wasn't for the original bailout plan under Bush and Paulson and definitely was not for Obama's 700 billion plan but where were the protests from the right for the original? Now, a lot of Repubs voted against Bush's plan but you did not see protests in the street from the extreme right about govt spending and "we want our country back".
Ari Fleischer, former Bush Press Secretary, said he supported Obama's idea to try to bring the Olympics to the US and he said it was the right thing to do. But how many people cheered when they found out the US lost the bid? That's not partisan? We can argue all day that Chicago is probably not the best place for the Olympics but Atlanta still has good effects from having it there.
Also up fo’ consideration wuz Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Hugo Chávez, an’ Kim Jong Il
This world is mad stupid.
Care to elaborate the heavy partisan resistance line? He came into office with a great deal of support and a country looking for change from the Bush years. His party has control of the house and the senante. The opposing party was/is in disarray with absolutely no leadership. This doesn't seem to qualify as heavy partisan resistance. [/quote][quote=SometimesNowhere] Not to run myself into the buzzsaw…
However, to be fair Obama hasn’t gotten a lot done because he has faced heavy partisan resistance. I believe he is a good man trying to accomplish a lot with good intentions.
It doesn’t matter what side you are on, there has been little substantive discussion, just a lot of scorched earth politics. For me, I would be elated if I could just have someone give me straight, objective information.
Sure...
It appears to me (I am not a politician or a pundit, so I have to rely on what I see on the news for my information) that many Republicans are simply towing the party line by resisting anything that is presented as a solution by someone with a 'D' after their name. With that, I believe that Obama would genuinely like to garner popular support for any large shift in policy instead of just using his majority control. So he would like Republicans to contribute to these changes in policy (and some have). But for every one that has, there are three that come out on a talk show resisting a proposal, many of whom do not seem to be doing so in good faith with real objections.
As for Obama and the Democrats trying to to make the U.S. a more socialist nation, I have always found that to be (no offense meant by this) an inflammatory and nonsensical statement. I believe that all people are creatures of motivation. With that, what would be the motivation for some well-meaning Democrats (I want to distinguish, because I have a hard time hiding my contempt for Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, and Charlie Rangel) to create a "socialist" nation? I think it is hard to deny the statistical fact that the wealth gap between the richest and poorest in this nation is steadily growing. And that, frankly, is bad for our economy and even our (those that post here) livelihoods.
I voted Republican all my young life, and believe in many fiscally conservative tenets. However, I am disgusted that with our country in dire need of leadership and solutions, many Republicans would rather try to sink a president that doesn't have an R after his name rather than try to make real, long term changes. I, for one, will never vote for this Republican party again.
Sorry about the dissertation. You may commence in handing me my @$$ now...
On the bright side, we’ve only got 39 more months until we have a real President again.
Obama winning the award is a joke and disgrace. I no longer have respect for the award. Obama is destroying the american dream. America is suppose to be the place where dreams can happen for those who have a vision and work ethic to get somewhere. His vision is to spread to wealth to the lazy and underserving. How will this motivate those to strive for anything but a low paying government job if he will tax the difference. I wish I could have spent the prime of my career during the 80’s when hard working people had a voice in Washington. Mid term elections are coming soon, get out and vote for freedom and liberty.
I agree that Republicans are bashing everything that Obama does and trying to bring him down, but it is no different than what the Democrats did to Bush when things didn’t work immediately. The Bush bashing was much much worse because of the liberal sided media. The entire country, from sports radio to politics to hollywood is BASH EVERYTHING and STAND FOR NOTHING.
[quote=SometimesNowhere]It appears to me (I am not a politician or a pundit, so I have to rely on what I see on the news for my information) that many Republicans are simply towing the party line by resisting anything that is presented as a solution by someone with a ‘D’ after their name. With that, I believe that Obama would genuinely like to garner popular support for any large shift in policy instead of just using his majority control. So he would like Republicans to contribute to these changes in policy (and some have). But for every one that has, there are three that come out on a talk show resisting a proposal, many of whom do not seem to be doing so in good faith with real objections.
As for Obama and the Democrats trying to to make the U.S. a more socialist nation, I have always found that to be (no offense meant by this) an inflammatory and nonsensical statement. I believe that all people are creatures of motivation. With that, what would be the motivation for some well-meaning Democrats (I want to distinguish, because I have a hard time hiding my contempt for Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, and Charlie Rangel) to create a “socialist” nation? I think it is hard to deny the statistical fact that the wealth gap between the richest and poorest in this nation is steadily growing. And that, frankly, is bad for our economy and even our (those that post here) livelihoods.
I voted Republican all my young life, and believe in many fiscally conservative tenets. However, I am disgusted that with our country in dire need of leadership and solutions, many Republicans would rather try to sink a president that doesn’t have an R after his name rather than try to make real, long term changes. I, for one, will never vote for this Republican party again.
Sorry about the dissertation. You may commence in handing me my @$$ now…
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The Republican party today keeps shooting themselves in the foot. They’ve had their a$$es handed to them the past three elections, yet they continue to employ the same tactics. It just doesn’t make sense. Sure, they are energizing their “base”; but most people (especially undecided voters) don’t like it when a party puts politics before country.
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[quote=SometimesNowhere]It appears to me (I am not a politician or a pundit, so I have to rely on what I see on the news for my information) that many Republicans are simply towing the party line by resisting anything that is presented as a solution by someone with a ‘D’ after their name. With that, I believe that Obama would genuinely like to garner popular support for any large shift in policy instead of just using his majority control. So he would like Republicans to contribute to these changes in policy (and some have). But for every one that has, there are three that come out on a talk show resisting a proposal, many of whom do not seem to be doing so in good faith with real objections.
As for Obama and the Democrats trying to to make the U.S. a more socialist nation, I have always found that to be (no offense meant by this) an inflammatory and nonsensical statement. I believe that all people are creatures of motivation. With that, what would be the motivation for some well-meaning Democrats (I want to distinguish, because I have a hard time hiding my contempt for Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, and Charlie Rangel) to create a “socialist” nation? I think it is hard to deny the statistical fact that the wealth gap between the richest and poorest in this nation is steadily growing. And that, frankly, is bad for our economy and even our (those that post here) livelihoods.
I voted Republican all my young life, and believe in many fiscally conservative tenets. However, I am disgusted that with our country in dire need of leadership and solutions, many Republicans would rather try to sink a president that doesn’t have an R after his name rather than try to make real, long term changes. I, for one, will never vote for this Republican party again.
Sorry about the dissertation. You may commence in handing me my @$$ now…
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The Republican party today keeps shooting themselves in the foot. They’ve had their a$$es handed to them the past three elections, yet they continue to employ the same tactics. It just doesn’t make sense. Sure, they are energizing their “base”; but most people (especially undecided voters) don’t like it when a party puts politics before country.
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This is exactly what I’m saying. One Republican admitted that no matter what health care plan comes across the desk to sign, they will not go along with it. Another one said if they stop him on this, it will be his “Waterloo”. To say Obama isn’t trying to reach across the lines is nonsense. He put more opposition party members in his Cabinet than any other President. I don’t belong to either party so I actually try to listen to both sides and make up my mind about what makes sense. Too many people get stuck on party ideology and already make up their minds before the discussion even begins and it gets annoying.
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BREAKING NEWS: This just in!!! Obama wins the Heisman Trophy after watching a college football game!!![/quote]He also got a star on the hollywood walk of fame for the movies he will probably do someday!!! He's bigger than the juice!
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