Making these forums for RR's only
As discussed previously on this board, there seems to be a real interest in limiting membership to these forums to Registered Reps only. By the same token all members insist on total anonymity for a variety of fairly obvious reasons. This presents us admin types with quite the enigma.
Since we will be migrating this forum to newer, better software in the near future, now is a great time for the membership to let it’s voice be heard.
Here are some possible ways this can be achieved:
1) All registrations need to be approved by admin. This would perhaps require the input of a license or identification that allows us to verify identity and occupation. Downside is that new members would have to wait for a period of hours or days for their membership to be approved and would be unable to post during that time.
2) Special groups are created for confirmed Reps vs new unconfirmed new registrations. Therefore it would be very easy to identify those posters that are indeed RRs.
I still need some ideas on a way to confirm identity and occupation as a RR that uses non-public information (so that identities cannot be misappropriated).
Please give me your input.
What about individuals looking to learn more about a firm? I found this to be a great asset before I got an offer. It is a wealth of information at understanding what all is entailed with the position. I agree with the two designated areas. Although, one should be for those who are willing to submit some kind of verification, and another for those who are just looking to learn about the position and firms. The latter tends to be the more commonly discussed topics here. Its a thought.
Forcing us to prove that we are RR's is a bad idea. The problem is that we don't have 100% trust that this information will be kept confidential. If I had to confirm my identity in some manner, I would no longer post. There is also no reason to not allow other professionals to post...attorneys, cpas, RIAs, insurance agents.
What about an easy solution? How about if the board just states up front that only registered reps can post and read the board? If someone is obviously not an RR, just go ahead and ban them.
I personally like a hybrid model that would allow non-registered folks interested in exploring this career path a place to interact with those of us in the business (if we choose to do so). However, like most here, I’d like the rest of the forum to be off limits to the general public and would be willing, if necessary, to supply evidence that I am in this industry to a forum admin for posting privileges. Frankly, there’s plenty of evidence for several regular posters to waive proof of industry experience. By now, I think we can all agree that posters like Stokwiz and Bond Guy are in the industry and should not be required to provide further proof to post and read in industry restricted zones. Surely, posters such as those can have the proof of industry involvement waived when the evidence through past posts is compelling.
As far as a way to confirm identity and occupation, how about the registration number from my RRMag subscription? I assume that this number is on the address label and surely provides some compelling evidence that I'm in the industry?[quote=anonymous]
Forcing us to prove that we are RR’s is a bad idea. The problem is that we don’t have 100% trust that this information will be kept confidential. If I had to confirm my identity in some manner, I would no longer post. There is also no reason to not allow other professionals to post…attorneys, cpas, RIAs, insurance agents.
What about an easy solution? How about if the board just states up front that only registered reps can post and read the board? If someone is obviously not an RR, just go ahead and ban them.
[/quote]I agree with the concept that we want to keep our identity private but as along as RREPS provide us with a privacy statement stating our information is secure and they will not provide it to anyone outside of RR then I am okay with the ID confirm… I would hope that once we provide information stating who we are that we would have the option to change our e-mail address back to some ultra private unknown address. This will allow our business e-mail to stay private just incase RREPS has the same reoccurring error message that allows others to see the e-mail address listed for our account.
I also see merit in having a ‘wing’ on RREPS for NEWBIE’S wanting to get in the industry to be able to ask some questions but it could be set up like the ghetto at ************************** and we the actual Registered Reps could go there and answer their questions.
By the way- Thanks for seeking our input.
Miss J
[quote=admin] [quote=anonymous]
There is also no reason to not allow other professionals to post...attorneys, cpas, RIAs, insurance agents.
[/quote]I too believe these professionals are vital members to this community.[/quote] +1. Obviously Bill Singer et al are welcome here and given the fact that members of that profession don't have the compelling need to remain anonymous, it should be easy to get evidence that they are in the profession they claim.
Here’s a solution: delete my membership. If newbies want to ask questions, don’t allow these people to discourage them.
There problem resolved. I'd suggest anyone wanting to learn about the career field not admit you are not in the career field. Delete my membership. I'm done here. I've done my job to fight cyberbullying. Too bad joedabrkr had to delete his membership and it was because of the antics of you so called 'professionals. Sad. Thanks admin for doing a great job here and being fair to all. Please delete my membership now. Thanks!Anonymity is very important not only for industry rules but just to avoid being harassed off of the forum, IRL. I agree with Miss Jones and Indy in this respect.
However, I do think it is important that people that are interested in getting information about the industry with the idea that they may become RReps or otherwise make a career should be able to interact with the RRep posters. Many who have been inquiring have really gone on to take their exams etc. I enjoy giving information from my experiences that might be able to help someone else just starting in the industry.
In addition, most of us in the Indy world have limited interactions with others in our field, basically due to the nature of running a sole proprietor practice or a small Indy office. The ability to discuss and learn from each other without the general public being involved is important for candid and worthwhile discussions. Our aruguments and disagreements about product (VA EIAs), process, and investment strategies are best kept in the “secluded” area.
Perhaps having us input our registration number from RRep Mag as an identifier for the more professional sections of the forum (this could also increase your circulation ) and an open area for everyone else would be workable.
There still would be no way to eliminate the annoying trolls or the enquiries by innocent web surfers who don’t understand the nature of this board and think of it as a chat room. Our best way to deal with those is ignore/shun the trolls and nicely explain the restrictions on giving information over the internet to those who are sincerely seeking financial information.
There is also no reason to not allow other professionals to post…attorneys, cpas, RIAs, insurance agents
Absolutely. I have learned many valuable things through posters like Anonymous and discussions about insurance and tax (CPA) type issues. RRep is just part of what we do and we need to have input from other professionals in related fields.
Going backwards in another thread, I see Tarheels had the same idea about using the rrmag account # to join here. I think it’s a great idea, but wanted to tip my hat to Tarheels for thinking of it first. I still think there should be exemptions for some long-time posters who in my mind have certainly proven their industry bona fides whether or not they subscribe to RRMag.
Also, in light of CB's post above, and the fact that many here want CB to go, you should honor her request and delete her profile. I will say this, she didn't do half the damage that Bobby Hull and his various personalities did here. Feel free to disagree, but I'm calling that one as I see it. That kind of behavior has no place here as it resulted in the loss of more than one quality poster.I don’t see anything good from having to give our names, firms, CRD #'s, etc…
But I agree that the general public shouldn't have access to this stuff. Ferris, Indy and Babs bring up some good points. Why can't the admins just be willing to boot people that are obviously not reps? It's not like there are a ton of them, and it's pretty obvious when we all know which ones they are.[quote=Ferris Bueller][quote=charlie_broker]Here’s a solution: delete my membership. If newbies want to ask questions, don’t allow these people to discourage them.
There problem resolved. I'd suggest anyone wanting to learn about the career field not admit you are not in the career field. Delete my membership. I'm done here. I've done my job to fight cyberbullying. Too bad joedabrkr had to delete his membership and it was because of the antics of you so called 'professionals. Sad. Thanks admin for doing a great job here and being fair to all. Please delete my membership now. Thanks! [/quote] Deleting your membership is a start and we all know you'd never create a new one. We need safeguards to keep people like you and Macca from creating new accounts and coming back. Thanks, but let the adults continue the conversation.[/quote] Does your feeling apply to your buddy also Ferris?[quote=Ferris Bueller][quote=Primo][quote=Ferris Bueller][quote=charlie_broker]Here’s a solution: delete my membership. If newbies want to ask questions, don’t allow these people to discourage them.
There problem resolved. I'd suggest anyone wanting to learn about the career field not admit you are not in the career field. Delete my membership. I'm done here. I've done my job to fight cyberbullying. Too bad joedabrkr had to delete his membership and it was because of the antics of you so called 'professionals. Sad. Thanks admin for doing a great job here and being fair to all. Please delete my membership now. Thanks! [/quote] Deleting your membership is a start and we all know you'd never create a new one. We need safeguards to keep people like you and Macca from creating new accounts and coming back. Thanks, but let the adults continue the conversation.[/quote] Does your feeling apply to your buddy also Ferris?[/quote] I'm addressing the issue of non-industry people being here. As for my 'buddy', he is he and I am me.[/quote] So as long as they are in the industry, you approve of users being disruptive for the purpose of being disruptive? I realize you were speaking to non-industry people, I was asking your opinion of your buddy and his antics.Where is the answer key, I want to know how I did.
Most RIAs/Life Agents/RegReps should pass pretty easily
So can anybody who knows how to Google It's a quandry and I have sympathy for the Admins who are trying to solve this and yet keep everyone happy. My personal solution is to ignore the trolls (unless I'm really bored and then it's kind of fun), read posts and threads from posters who I have gotten valuable information from and DON"T GIVE INVESTMENT ADVICE. Discussing hypothetical situations in general without making product recommendations or soliciting business is not against industry rules. I would hate to see the forum become too namby pamby. There is a middle ground between hostile flaming and being boring milktoasts because we don't want to offend anyone.Difficult task to find that " middle ground " and still be able to provide thoughts , comments and experiences that can be shared with Members. Much like Babs , my personal answer to the trolls is to ignore ( well almost ignore ) and on the lighter side, on those days…a couple of Trolls have been actually quite amusing. NO I WON"T NAME NAMES.
Subscription List may be a PARTIAL answer to the problem? Ice mentioned he just recently subscribed to the Magazine , I also fall in to that category. For Members in Canada and the U.K. the question then becomes will their magazine subscription be processed and sent to the above countries?
iceco1d,
Can we get CE credit for that quiz?I like the subscription # idea. I am not too keen on releasing my CRD.
Ferris - the subscription idea put forth by Ice does have merit. In my humble opinion , I can not see the troll types subscribing to every Forum that they wish to join to be able to play havoc with the sites?
I have to ask just to clarify: What is it you specifically do not want the public reading off of your posts?
I am mixed on this. I think all of this filtering RR's is a waste. Hell it's hard building a book period so what % of people do you honestly believe want to go to a message board on their spare time and read what broker's have to say? I am lost. All of this because of a Bobby Hull and Charlie Broker. Can we count 5 people who are not broker's on this site? I mean after all, the people asking for this filter are the same ones who hide behind anonymous usernames to reveal company information that was meant to remain confidential. The Admin needs tor esearch the legality of this situation ie. Couldn't brokerages come after this site for encouraging broker's to hide and pass on insider information? where does the line stop? I just think by controlling who comes in we have to also supervise what can be said.There should be filtering, not just b/c of the trolls, but because we, as RR’s, or other professionals have chosen a place to share information that should not necessarily be shared or that we would not want to share with the public. While everything I do is ethical and legal within my practice, I certainly don’t want to openly share my trade secrets with the general public. Sure, there are places that the general public can go to learn everything they’d like to know about wrap accts, 12-b1s, etc., but let them use google and FINRA for that.
I don't think that a lot of what is discussed here should be shared with the public. A lot of the topics of discussion are of the same ilk as those with which wholesalers share with us where topics or visuals are not "client approved" or "approved for the general public." I would like to feel confident that a place of discourse entitled "Registered Reps" was pertinent to just that: Registered Reps. So, I agree that other professionals such as attorneys, CPAs, and Insurance agents, who we, as RRs, deal with on a daily basis are indeed pertinent to the conversations and topics we discuss. The regular Joe, however, such as charlie, fighnancy, or whomever, certainly does not need to be privy to our discussions. One option, if the general public is so interested in our discussion, would be to have a more restricted access for those people. In these non-RR forums they could comment on what they would like to see from their FAs so that we had something to build on, as well as a recruits sections for those considering the crazy idea of taking the leap into the business. As for unlicensed individuals perusing our discussions on estate planning, etc., I don't think they need to receive that free advice from us. This forum is a tool for us RRs to improve our businesses, not to provide free solutions for Do-it-yourselfers.[quote=iceco1d]
You might as well be a Bengals fan while you're at it as well![/quote] I wouldn't wish that upon anyone.I’d wish it on you. FACE!
[quote=anabuhabkuss] I have to ask just to clarify: What is it you specifically do not want the public reading off of your posts?
I am mixed on this. I think all of this filtering RR’s is a waste. Hell it’s hard building a book period so what % of people do you honestly believe want to go to a message board on their spare time and read what broker’s have to say? I am lost. All of this because of a Bobby Hull and Charlie Broker. Can we count 5 people who are not broker’s on this site?
I mean after all, the people asking for this filter are the same ones who hide behind anonymous usernames to reveal company information that was meant to remain confidential. The Admin needs tor esearch the legality of this situation ie. Couldn’t brokerages come after this site for encouraging broker’s to hide and pass on insider information? where does the line stop? I just think by controlling who comes in we have to also supervise what can be said.[/quote]
One key to this process that many have not thought about is this: You will only be able to have one username. If you have to qualify each user manually then we will obviously not be able to approve several usernames. This is another win-win with providing proof.
MissJ
There is really no easy way to have our cake and eat it too. If we want restrictions on non industry folks, we need to be willing to be identified somehow. If i stumbled on this forum and tried to join and was asked for my CRD #, i would be hesitant, even without knowing about all the lunatics that have graced us with their presence over the last few months.
It seems to me that the best solution to this, not perfect, but best possible solution is the idea that has been mentioned by many - a subscription number. If someone doesnt have a subscription they could be given two choices - either subscribe, which any RR can without cost, or submit their CRD. Its ok to ask for the CRD, as long as their is an alternative offered. I think it would be a good thing to make this forum somewhat exclusive, and not that easy to get into. And as Miss Jones said, it would prevent idiots from re-registering under a new name. One more thing - to the admins - you guys have really turned the corner. Kudos, i for one am excited at the prospect of having a place to come to that is pure resource again.[quote=Indyone]Going backwards in another thread, I see Tarheels had the same idea about using the rrmag account # to join here. I think it’s a great idea, but wanted to tip my hat to Tarheels for thinking of it first. I still think there should be exemptions for some long-time posters who in my mind have certainly proven their industry bona fides whether or not they subscribe to RRMag.
Also, in light of CB's post above, and the fact that many here want CB to go, you should honor her request and delete her profile. I will say this, she didn't do half the damage that Bobby Hull and his various personalities did here. Feel free to disagree, but I'm calling that one as I see it. That kind of behavior has no place here as it resulted in the loss of more than one quality poster. [/quote]Ditto. Added emphasis mine.
First - Thanks to Indyone for offering me elevated status. If admin were to go in that direction that elevated staus should extend to Indy as well as a list of regulars. It wouldn’t be hard for admin to determine who’s an FA. They all should get a pass.
Second - Personally, I'm entertained by the trolls and all the goading that goes on. Personally I miss going toe to toe with Put Trader, even though, technically, he wasn't a troll. Just a bad pony. Regardless, he is/was one smart dude and in his own way added to the knowledge of the group. He also added to the honesty factor in that there was no way BS was going to get past him. Banning him was a double edged sword. Good to get rid of the avarice, bad in that gone with him is his extensive industry experience. Third - Disclosing inside information under the gise of a pseudonym? Hmm? Noone here is a corporate officer privy to inside information. This forum is a place for reps to tell it like it is. Stifling that discussion defeats the purpose of the forum.This is a good, healthy discussion. Admin, you should be pleased with the quality feedback you are receiving. Hopefully, much of it gets incorporated into the final product. The CRD# idea. which most have backed away from, is not in my way of thinking a valid screen as it can easily be misappropriated. Anyone who can go to the FINRA site and use broker check, can easily misappropriate someone else’s CRD#. The RRMag subscription number is a much better form of verification as (1) it’s relatively private, (2) it will greatly reduce the use of multiple personalities, at least in the restricted zone, and (3) as others have stated, it has the potential to increase RRMag subscribership.
If you hear use our suggestion of creating public and restricted zones, I'm curious as to how you will handle all the posts and threads already here and would solicit the opinions of other members on whether some, all or none of it should go into the restricted zone. I have my opinion, but am more interested in hearing the opinions of others first.Why not just allow posters to enter their RR subscription# in their profile if they want to and, if they do, have “RR Subscriber” appear under their ID…like you have “Senior Member” or “Newbie” now. Let the users choose between extra anonymity or extra credibility.
Iceco1d, although newer to the business, may make a pretty good moderator candidate. You're going to be hard pressed to find moderators who do not express their opinions here. At best, you'll find moderators who are willing to hear all sides, despite natural biases, can get along with all but the most unreasonable members here, and are fairly active. Some of the worst transgressions here happen after hours and have unfortunately gone unchecked for far too long. A small, but diverse group of moderators from all channels, sharing power, would eliminate a lot of the garbage that we've dealt with in the past, and frankly, almost ruined this forum at one point. Why not let the users nominate and vote for moderator choices? You can still eliminate candidates that are problematic for you, but given some of the fine suggestions I've seen in this thread, I think you can trust us to give you some good, if not completely unbiased, candidates.By the way, iceco1d, good ideaabout the quiz. Very innovative!
[quote=BondGuy]
Third - Disclosing inside information under the gise of a pseudonym? Hmm? Noone here is a corporate officer privy to inside information. This forum is a place for reps to tell it like it is. Stifling that discussion defeats the purpose of the forum.[/quote] Exxxactly. Which is why this filtering idea is pointless. Honestly, admin, just put in a button that let's users flag irresponsible users for moderation. I still see no valid point why to filter people out altogether. If you do not want someting disclosed to the public, spend your time making a sales call. This whole discussion baffles me and is a first, that I know of, for message boards. Once again, no one has been able to count the number of trolls and non RRs on this site. Disclosing personal information at the expense of a handful of annoyances is downright silly. Nothing stopped any of you disclosing information for years on this site, why complain now? Is business that dead for you? There's no way you can stop anyone fooling a "subscription" system or, as someone else mentioned, a quiz they can't get answers to over the internet.[quote=anabuhabkuss][quote=BondGuy]
Third - Disclosing inside information under the gise of a pseudonym? Hmm? Noone here is a corporate officer privy to inside information. This forum is a place for reps to tell it like it is. Stifling that discussion defeats the purpose of the forum.[/quote] Exxxactly. Which is why this filtering idea is pointless. Honestly, admin, just put in a button that let's users flag irresponsible users for moderation. I still see no valid point why to filter people out altogether. If you do not want someting disclosed to the public, spend your time making a sales call. This whole discussion baffles me and is a first, that I know of, for message boards. Once again, no one has been able to count the number of trolls and non RRs on this site. Disclosing personal information at the expense of a handful of annoyances is downright silly. Nothing stopped any of you disclosing information for years on this site, why complain now? Is business that dead for you? There's no way you can stop anyone fooling a "subscription" system or, as someone else mentioned, a quiz they can't get answers to over the internet.[/quote] I'm not sure we're speaking the same language here yet, but I would respectfully disagree that restricting access to at least a portion of this forum is pointless. As has been mentioned earlier, there are many materials labeled "not for use with the public", and correspondingly, there have been plenty of occasions here where registered reps have exchanged, or would like to exchange information that is not ready for public distribution, due to suitability, etc. Since there is no way to vet all visitors for suitability and/or know their entire financial picture, there should be an area that is off-limits to the public where such material can be discussed. In addition, if everyone here operated in a manner where we assume that everything we post can and will be read by the general public, the quality of the content would naturally be diminished. I can tell you from personal experience that there have been several instances where I would have liked to contribute something helpful, but held back because I could not limit my audience. PM's help, but the helpful information is limited to one recipient. Other members who might have gained are shut out. While trolls may not be eliminated, they would certainly be curtailed under such a system and anything is an improvement in my opinion. As to fooling a subscription system, certainly that is possible, but again, such a system would be a vast improvement over what we have now and would sharply curtail some of the foolishness we've had to put up with. Help me understand here...what you're saying is you think the forum in it's current format is the best solution?I agree with Indyone. While what annabuhabkruss (hope i got that right), said about other forums not restricitng any group from joining, dont forget that we are in an industry that is unique as far as regulation is concerned. That is to Indyones point.
With all due rrespect.To some extent, I am just looking for plausible deniability.
If somehow I was ever "outed", I would like to be able to say, "Wait a second. I'm not posting in a public chatroom. This is only for registered reps. If I had any idea that the public was reading, I would have gotten my posts approved in advance." I know that it sounds stupid, but when it comes to compliance issues, we registered reps have a deck that is stacked against us. P.S. I really dislike having to remain anonymous. Like many others, I post because I want to learn from others in the industry and give back to an industry that has given me so much.I must be the only person here who doesn't like this idea. Ice, sorry to breakup the love in. Maybe it's because I couldn't answer the E&O question? Off course the reason I couldn't answer that question is because I've never purchased E&O insurance. Those of us on the wire/regional side don't have to buy it. Maybe we should but... This brings up the issue of just what questions to ask, who's asking, and what would constitute a passing grade? Already one question tripped a 25 year vet. How many of those questions could a CPA or Attorney answer? How do we not exclude those we want to include? Who is asking the questions? Admin isn't manned by FA's or financial experts. These people are journalist/writers/publishers who know about as much about investing as the average layman. If they are anything like their most of their counterparts over at Money Magazine they probably haven't made an investment beyond their 401k. They are ill equipped to craft expert screening questions. Of course they could ask questions about grammer, spelling, and sentence struture, but that would eliminate me as well. What would constitute a passing grade? What if the newbie gets only one question wrong, but it's a basic question everyone should know? Pass or fail? Personally, if I came to a forum, business or otherwise that was so exclusionary as to require a test to join, it would be straight ahead keep walking for me! Proving we're FA's to journalist/writers via testing? It as ridiculous as it sounds.By the way, iceco1d, good ideaabout the quiz. Very innovative!
…awwww, BG…we’ve already nominated you for a pass, anyway. I’ll concede your point that a quiz could be problematic. There was one question that I wasn’t sure about either…I can’t remember which one, but I do recall questioning my choice. If I fail, do I get to keep taking it until I finally get lucky and pass? Or am I barred after one attempt?
I still like the idea of using the RRMag subscription for most and giving obvious professionals a pass. While Iceco1d's idea of a quiz was clever (and I'd still nominate him for a moderator), for reasons you mentioned, it should at least not be the only method of registration if used.I hope that this site doesn’t become too exclusive… if the senior or RR want thier own forum let them have it… generally newbys (like me) dont really want that level of detail or the nuts and bolts of investing … yet. This site has been a wealth of information and I have learned so much… I am not an RR yet but will be in a few months. One thing I dont like is when a good question is put out and inevitably after three or four post it becomes side tracked and goes off course with a bunch of crap and name calling that goes on and on for pages…
You can look at www.topgunproducers.com they have some sort of entry level deal that gradually over time increases but there are some areas that the people in that forum must approve you first. I joined that site but honestly it may be good for people in the industry it really wasnt that good for newbys.... also seems to focus mainly on insurance not investing even in the FA forum.... also the guy running it is an ego maniac, hes so full of his self, I got sick after reading just a few of his post.... hope this site never subscribes to that level of snobery. Finally I think i have posted two threads here and got some great replys, some wonderful PM,s and of course some of the senior rear ends on here bashed me just like every other newby who dares post a question... as i am sure i will get bashed for this postFerris I would like to meet you!
Hate is a strong word.. and you dont even know me. Somehow hiding behind a silly name and avitar is probably a good idea for you, i dont imagine having to face someone in person using your real identity and running your mouth would be a good idea as it would probably get your ass kicked but then again probably not becasue mostly spineless pathetic small people act the way you are online because in real life your miserable and havent got the guts. You sure seem to be a miserable litttle man Thank you for making my pointmr jones, when you read top guns, what is coming off as snobbery is simply someone who is very confident in his knowledge. It doesn't matter what you personally think of the moderator, but I strongly recommend that you read every one of his posts. There may be nobody in any financial forum who has ever posted more useable information to help a newby help clients while making money for themselves.
P.S. My money is on Ferris in a back alley brawl. I'll lay 3-1 odds.
Ding … and now for the second round. The spitting and cuts are beginning to show Keep the fighting clean and no biting or hitting bellow the belt
"One thing I dont like is when a good question is put out and inevitably after three or four post it becomes side tracked and goes off course with a bunch of crap and name calling that goes on and on for pages… " (excerpt from my previous post)
Guess I am as guilty as everyone else.... BTW i dont like donuts... i'm more of a muffin guy or maybe a good hot chocolate chip cookie... you know ferris i have put on a few pounds this last year.... I guess jogging three and half miles every other day isnt enough any more... hate getting old oh on fighting, never forget one of the best lessons I ever leaned in basic training (Army) Ft. Dix New Jersey, for an alabama boy it was cold up there even in the summer.. anyway i digress... it was about 8 weeks into the 10 weeks, i walked into one of the rooms on my floor ( we had 8 men rooms AIT Baracks) anyway i was tough having just nearly completed basic, i walked into that room and there was this goofy kid with coke bottle glasses running the drill sgt down..... full of piss and vinegar i told the kid to shut up and if he didnt like it i would kick his ass.... and this is beautiful.. the kid gets up and looks at me, grins and man he hit me three times before i hit the ground... I had more lumps on my head than a sack of potatoes.... anyway i go out to formation looking like Mr. Potato head, the Drill Sgt wants to know what happens... I fell down the stairs drill Sgt... he knows it BS but lets it go... valuable lesson maybe you could learn from it too Ferris, maybe your goofy coked bottle glass guy is right around the corner, by the way I love you man.anon,
sounds like you might be the moderator,i still think your not all there..........I think you shouldn’t be HERE, let alone THERE!
And no, anonymous is NOT the moderator there. Neither am I.anon and skip…
you call us kool-aid drinkers... please this is bordering on cult...okay it is cultBut by your own admission, you’re not a member of the cult!!!
So... why are you here?to learn...........
I Know........... that really isnt what you want to hear,,, so now you will tell me not to post but to lurk,,,, in my defense,,, i havent posted in any forum other than to ask a question,,, or in the lounge (all things to all people) ,,,, but it seems that if you said the sky is blue and i said yes so brilliantly blue you would still curse me and my entire exsistance,,,,, I come here to learn, and i have learned quite a bit, that there are some great FA's out there with great experiences and lessons learned,,, and there are bitter ass holes who hate anyone who dares think they can enter this realm ,,,, in any event i find it all to be ..... well tolerable... so take your best shot, you cant imagine what i have been through and what truly your pompus, trivial meandering .... well i think you get the picture... your not on my A list By the way, who puts WWW, topgunproducers.com as thier tag line,,,,,,, your not the moderator? c'mon i could be 10 different people on here if i wanted to ...... I think you need to go back to ego maniac land and get a fix......why,do you feel,the need to,put multiple commas, in your sentences indiscriminately?
Hello Becky
[quote=Mr. Jones]
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I Know........... that really isnt what you want to hear,,, so now you will tell me not to post but to lurk,,,, in my defense,,, i havent posted in any forum other than to ask a question,,, or in the lounge (all things to all people) ,,,, but it seems that if you said the sky is blue and i said yes so brilliantly blue you would still curse me and my entire exsistance,,,,, I come here to learn, and i have learned quite a bit, that there are some great FA's out there with great experiences and lessons learned,,, and there are bitter ass holes who hate anyone who dares think they can enter this realm ,,,, in any event i find it all to be ..... well tolerable... so take your best shot, you cant imagine what i have been through and what truly your pompus, trivial meandering .... well i think you get the picture... your not on my A list By the way, who puts WWW, topgunproducers.com as thier tag line,,,,,,, your not the moderator? c'mon i could be 10 different people on here if i wanted to ...... I think you need to go back to ego maniac land and get a fix......[/quote]methinks Mr. Jones needs to lay off the alky-hol and ramblin
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