Bondguysdog

I hear ya. There are about 4 people whose posts I actually read now. I used to cruise over to this site a couple times a day to check things out.  Now its a quick read over the morning coffee and maybe for a couple minutes during lunch but thats it...

There are a bunch of clowns running around this place now... A pack of jacka$$es that announce their ways like a chimp pounds on their chest...

 Why so angry? In fact, I admire you, the parody is not personal, rather, about the apparent ego that screen names aquire over time.

Your tagline about your dog is humorous. I guess anything other than between you and your dog is inappropriate. I don't mean to insult you or your dog.

Meaningful content is good, so is a little humor. There is plenty of negative stuff here, and Bond Guy's Dog is a good dog, not a mean or bad dog.

Anyway, 23 year olds can be smart, and on and off topic, and sassy and all, in short, credible, 23 in dog years is about 161 human years. Can you imagine how wise we might be at that age?

 It is funny that you got so mad. Sorry, it really is.

Noboby wants to lose you - so you either have to lighten up, or this dog dies.

I thought my posts were thoughtful.

Frankly, this dog's ego is very small - only a few posts. So you just say the word, and I'll kill the dog.

Anyone else care to comment about the dog, or maybe a slightly bigger perspective on the issue of appropriateness here?

Bond Guy, you say the word, and right here and now, I will terminate the dog in a humane fashion. But not without a little growl.

 I do think you are one of the smartest people here.

I see, it's ok for the Rutger's Womens BBall team to just toughen up and not be so sensitive for being called names by Don Imus (after all Al Sharpton has done so much worse, not to mention Snoop Dogg) but let someone make fun of Bond Guy and it's off to the land of snit for him!

Jesus Bond guy, man up wouldja?

Yes, there are distracting elements in here. How has it ever been different? When I was here back in '03 there were a lot of the same type of guys here doing a lot of the same type of things. Personally. I judge the post by the post, if it says something I can learn from, I learn from it. If it doesn't I learn from that too.

"I justify that as a part of giving back to a business that has given my family and I so much."

First of all it's "me" not "I", a business that has given me...

Secondly, what do you want? A medal or a chest to pin it on?

Do you really think that somebody is going to be so dazzled by your brilliance that they are going to change their life based on something they read on an anonymous internet chat board? That's delusional! Not to mention condescending and pedantic!

I happen to look forward to posts with your handle (generally) mostly in the General tab. I don't come here to teach or preach or even to argue, I come here because people in this industry are generally some of the smarter people in sales (a curve that I must admit is weighted back by the low hiring standards of "certain firms").

But if you want to leave, don't let the door hit you in the azz on the way out. I've seen much better leave much classier joints than this one. OTOH if you're going to stay, drop the drama queen routine, the popularity vote spiel. There is no ownership on the web, so stop trying to carve out a piece of real estate for yourself.

As I said, I like ya, but I do not agree with this hissy fit.

Well said.

So there is no ownership on the web, which kind of turns the idea of carving a piece on of it on the web seem a little silly.

But it would be terrible if bond guy left, and only bond guy's dog remained, and a lot of people, especially Bond Guy, ended up hating the dog for eternity.

We need some others to weigh in here, does the dog live or die?

I'm happy to stand up for what I believe, but if enough folks complain, the dog gets it.

I just want to be bond guys dog.

[quote=bondguysdog]

 Why so angry? In fact, I admire you, the parody is not personal, rather, about the apparent ego that screen names aquire over time.

Your tagline about your dog is humorous. I guess anything other than between you and your dog is inappropriate. I don't mean to insult you or your dog.

Meaningful content is good, so is a little humor. There is plenty of negative stuff here, and Bond Guy's Dog is a good dog, not a mean or bad dog.

Anyway, 23 year olds can be smart, and on and off topic, and sassy and all, in short, credible, 23 in dog years is about 161 human years. Can you imagine how wise we might be at that age?

 It is funny that you got so mad. Sorry, it really is.

Noboby wants to lose you - so you either have to lighten up, or this dog dies.

I thought my posts were thoughtful.

Frankly, this dog's ego is very small - only a few posts. So you just say the word, and I'll kill the dog.

Anyone else care to comment about the dog, or maybe a slightly bigger perspective on the issue of appropriateness here?

Bond Guy, you say the word, and right here and now, I will terminate the dog in a humane fashion. But not without a little growl.

 I do think you are one of the smartest people here.

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Yeah: I see bondsguy's point.  He would immediately think you were going to spoof him or his posts.  It might have been better to ask his permission to use the tagline first.  Or to let him know your intentions of how you will use the name.  Better to be original in your screen name. 

I would "dog gone it" after reading his comments if I were you.

So, does bond guy’s dog die?

Hmmm, I suggest you write BondGuy a pm UNLESS his mail box is FULL! …and let him know that you plan to “retire” the dog – he doesn’t have to die and then resume your other posting name…

You might think I am holding the dog hostage, but it's a catch 22, 'cause I don't want cave into political correctness now.

I enjoyed reading some of bond guys old posts, and he seems smart and likeable, that's why I chose him.

But you are saying, I should just tell him here that the bondguysdog  retreats into the woods, and that should save him face, without weighing in on the meaning of his protest. Kind of like just paying the Stamp Tax and not having a Tea Party.

We should just let him make a speech and go back to England.

One vote for staying.

One vote for dog suicide.

Let's not use he word, kill or suicide.  Retire is much nicer.

You've made it clear you have good intentions and chose your name to COMPLIMENT bondguy as you have made it also clear you are an admirer of his.  You have done this right off the bat. Therefore, since he knows you had good intentions and didn't want to parady or spoof him then it seems unless he is very sensitive that he shouldn't mind.

Try keeping bondsguy dog screenname, give it some time, and see if he (bondsguy) continues to post here; otherwise, guess you have your answer. Otherwise, as I suggested, drop him a note.  It's between you and bondguy to work it out; if he doesn't throw you a bone, come to your own conclusion.   

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[quote=blarmston]

There are a bunch of clowns running around this

place now… A pack of jacka$$es that announce their ways like a chimp

pounds on their chest…

[quote=blarmston]

I hear ya. There are about 4 people whose posts I
actually read now. I used to cruise over to this site a couple times a
day to check things out.  Now its a quick read over the morning
coffee and maybe for a couple minutes during lunch but thats it…

There are a bunch of clowns running around this place now... A pack of jacka$$es that announce their ways like a chimp pounds on their chest...

[quote=BondGuy]

Very clever! Another effing asshole to deal with.

Maybe it's me but it seems that this forum has degraded in quality over the past few months. We're now at the Jr. high school level.

For my part I've come here to try to do some good. Help out the noobs and the rookies.  And doing so takes time away from business. Yet, I justify that as a part of giving back to a business that has given my family and I so much.

Coming to this forum is about learning or giving. What I can't figure out is why someone would take the time to come here for any other reason. Lately though, there is a group that comes here just to bust balls. They add little to the collective knowledge of the group and do much to detract from the intended nature of this board. Are they advisors? If they are it too neatly explains the high failure rate among us. More likely 23 year old idiots with nothing but time on their hands and a lot of growing up to do. Their posts certainly make them look as such.

 BondGuysdog, if you want to parody me have at it but, I have to tell you, there has got to be a better way for you to spend your time. I know there are better ways for me to spend my time so here's the deal, I'm done helping out here until Bondguysdog is gone. If these are the kind of people the group wants here that's Ok, good luck with that. Personally, I no longer have time for it.

Bond Guy signing off

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You'll be back. You can't help yourself.

 That's why they call it PUBLIC. 

Maybe the elites here will want to go private. Unfettered competition ( I did not see any debasing remarks in re-reading) can be healthy. Anyway, I think you get the point.

So serious!

So, the dog " retires ?"

Who are you wanting an answer from?

bondguy already told you he didn't like it.  Retire the damn dog!!  bowwow arf arf..

Change your signature line to "bondguy wannabe" ...otherwise, find a new hero who doesn't mind the flattery.  How about joedabrkrII. Joe doesn't mind the compliments.  Or Mr. A the Second. Or Billy Hull the Third, Fourth (and drink a fifth).

This seems more and more like the Imus conversation.  Now you're going to have to apologize and get fired from your job, you know.

[quote=Bobby Hull][quote=BondGuy]

Very clever! Another effing asshole to deal with.

Maybe it's me but it seems that this forum has degraded in quality over the past few months. We're now at the Jr. high school level.

For my part I've come here to try to do some good. Help out the noobs and the rookies.  And doing so takes time away from business. Yet, I justify that as a part of giving back to a business that has given my family and I so much.

Coming to this forum is about learning or giving. What I can't figure out is why someone would take the time to come here for any other reason. Lately though, there is a group that comes here just to bust balls. They add little to the collective knowledge of the group and do much to detract from the intended nature of this board. Are they advisors? If they are it too neatly explains the high failure rate among us. More likely 23 year old idiots with nothing but time on their hands and a lot of growing up to do. Their posts certainly make them look as such.

 BondGuysdog, if you want to parody me have at it but, I have to tell you, there has got to be a better way for you to spend your time. I know there are better ways for me to spend my time so here's the deal, I'm done helping out here until Bondguysdog is gone. If these are the kind of people the group wants here that's Ok, good luck with that. Personally, I no longer have time for it.

Bond Guy signing off

[/quote]

You'll be back. You can't help yourself.

[quote=joedabrkr] [quote=Bobby Hull][quote=BondGuy]

Very clever! Another effing asshole to deal with.

Maybe it's me but it seems that this forum has degraded in quality over the past few months. We're now at the Jr. high school level.

For my part I've come here to try to do some good. Help out the noobs and the rookies.  And doing so takes time away from business. Yet, I justify that as a part of giving back to a business that has given my family and I so much.

Coming to this forum is about learning or giving. What I can't figure out is why someone would take the time to come here for any other reason. Lately though, there is a group that comes here just to bust balls. They add little to the collective knowledge of the group and do much to detract from the intended nature of this board. Are they advisors? If they are it too neatly explains the high failure rate among us. More likely 23 year old idiots with nothing but time on their hands and a lot of growing up to do. Their posts certainly make them look as such.

 BondGuysdog, if you want to parody me have at it but, I have to tell you, there has got to be a better way for you to spend your time. I know there are better ways for me to spend my time so here's the deal, I'm done helping out here until Bondguysdog is gone. If these are the kind of people the group wants here that's Ok, good luck with that. Personally, I no longer have time for it.

Bond Guy signing off

[/quote]

You'll be back. You can't help yourself.

[/quote]

As Mike Butler is known to say in these instances...

"Pot....Kettle....Black"

I for one am also a little tired of the trolls, the spoofing, and the multiple personalities, not to mention the spam and the folks posting on here who aren't even in the business but have to waste our time.
[/quote]

Amen to that.

[quote=goforbroke]

Let’s not use he word, kill or suicide.  Retire is much nicer.

You've made it clear you have good intentions and chose your name to COMPLIMENT bondguy as you have made it also clear you are an admirer of his.  You have done this right off the bat. Therefore, since he knows you had good intentions and didn't want to parady or spoof him then it seems unless he is very sensitive that he shouldn't mind.

Try keeping bondsguy dog screenname, give it some time, and see if he (bondsguy) continues to post here; otherwise, guess you have your answer. Otherwise, as I suggested, drop him a note.  It's between you and bondguy to work it out; if he doesn't throw you a bone, come to your own conclusion.   

[quote=bondguysdog]

 Why so angry? In fact, I admire you, the parody is not personal, rather, about the apparent ego that screen names aquire over time.

Meaningful content is good, so is a little humor. There is plenty of negative stuff here, and Bond Guy's Dog is a good dog, not a mean or bad dog.

This is neither humorous nor good content, so you lose on both counts.  It's just lame....and if you are surprised that he's annoyed, then you're a good candidate for a daily ride on the hockey helmet short bus.

 It is funny that you got so mad. Sorry, it really is.

Sorry you have such a farked up sense of humor.  It wasn't funny.

Noboby wants to lose you - so you either have to lighten up, or this dog dies.

I thought my posts were thoughtful.

So you thought.  Apparently none of us agree with you.

Frankly, this dog's ego is very small - only a few posts. So you just say the word, and I'll kill the dog.

Anyone else care to comment about the dog, or maybe a slightly bigger perspective on the issue of appropriateness here?

The above makes it pretty obvious to me(or at least highly likely) that this is just the latest incarnation of planrcoach/silouette, now using a hijacked persona to pontificate about his ideas on what is and is not appropriate forum behavior.  Ironic, really, since you're using some pretty obnoxious behavior to make the point.

Bond Guy, you say the word, and right here and now, I will terminate the dog in a humane fashion. But not without a little growl.

 I do think you are one of the smartest people here.

This is the only statement you've made with which I agree.  I'd hate to think that a loser like you would be the last straw and we lose a valuable long-time forum participant.

This board needs a moderator.  End of story.  I really can’t believe there isn’t already a mod here.  

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Bond Guy signing offBondGuysdog, if you want to parody

me have at it but, I have to tell you, there has got to be a better way for

you to spend your time. I know there are better ways for me to spend my

time so here’s the deal, I’m done helping out here until Bondguysdog is

gone. If these are the kind of people the group wants here that’s Ok,

good luck with that. Personally, I no longer have time for it.



Bond Guy signing off











Now a real rookie is loosing a good resource.



I detest the people who come to this forum and verbally masturbate.

Whoever these trolls are should seriously contemplate suicide!!!

responses to the drivel:

Pot calling the kettle black.

Such violent, hostile attitudes:  now where is the splenda I ask. 

bondsguy:  why couldn't you handle the compliment? now you started an uproar and joedabrkr (lacking in splenda) wants visitors to get fired. 

The people running the site don't have time for you children:  it would be a FULL time job since there's such nastiness.

I responded to topics about fair hiring practices, imus, movies, sales practices: these are off topics: sorry to rain on your parade Joedabrkr but you don't have to be in the business to post here.   So now you've joined Bobby in trying to BULLY other posters off the site.

[quote=goforbroke]

responses to the drivel:

Pot calling the kettle black.

Such violent, hostile attitudes:  now where is the splenda I ask. 

bondsguy:  why couldn't you handle the compliment? now you started an uproar and joedabrkr (lacking in splenda) wants visitors to get fired. 

The people running the site don't have time for you children:  it would be a FULL time job since there's such nastiness.

I responded to topics about fair hiring practices, imus, movies, sales practices: these are off topics: sorry to rain on your parade Joedabrkr but you don't have to be in the business to post here.   So now you've joined Bobby in trying to BULLY other posters off the site.

 [/quote]

Bullying?  You want bullying?

I see, it's ok for the Rutger's Womens BBall team to just toughen up and not be so sensitive for being called names by Don Imus (after all Al Sharpton has done so much worse, not to mention Snoop Dogg) but let someone make fun of Bond Guy and it's off to the land of snit for him!

 Unbelievable scenario! Will Bond Guy ever return unscathed, or has his reputation been shattered forever? Stay tuned, folks !

[quote=bondguysdog]

I see, it's ok for the Rutger's Womens BBall team to just toughen up and not be so sensitive for being called names by Don Imus (after all Al Sharpton has done so much worse, not to mention Snoop Dogg) but let someone make fun of Bond Guy and it's off to the land of snit for him!

 Unbelievable scenario! Will Bond Guy ever return unscathed, or has his reputation been shattered forever? Stay tuned, folks !

[/quote]

He'll be back. He just wanted some attention and to see how many people would beg him not to leave.

Good for Bondguy, bad for all of us rookies.  I, like Bondguy, come to this site to get/give advice and toss around ideas about this industry.  This really is an amazing resource, it's not like you could walk into your office and ask some of these questions and get straight answers like you do here.  Unfortunately for guys like Bondguy and myself this has become a place for degenerates and guys who have been in the biz forever and need to vent their frustrations on some newbie.  I come on here and ask very simple questions, yes newbie questions, but I don't asked to be told I will fail and need to get out of the business.  That honestly helps no one, criticism isn't always bad but there is a time and place for everything.  Don't waste this valuable resource.

Disclaimer:  I am not directly comparing myself to Bondguy, he is a very wise tenured advisor while I am just a newbie.  I am only comparing us in our desires to have the give and take exchange of advice. 

[quote=bondguysdog]

I see, it’s ok for the Rutger’s Womens BBall team to just toughen up and not be so sensitive for being called names by Don Imus (after all Al Sharpton has done so much worse, not to mention Snoop Dogg) but let someone make fun of Bond Guy and it’s off to the land of snit for him!

 Unbelievable scenario! Will Bond Guy ever return unscathed, or has his reputation been shattered forever? Stay tuned, folks !

[quote=ChrisB]This board needs a moderator.  End of story.  I really can't believe there isn't already a mod here.   [/quote]

I hate to say it, but I agree with you. We need a moderator to get rid of the trolls...you know who you are!!

[quote=babbling looney]

[quote=ChrisB]This board needs a moderator.  End of story.  I really can't believe there isn't already a mod here.   [/quote]

I hate to say it, but I agree with you. We need a moderator to get rid of the trolls...you know who you are!!

[/quote]

Babs, do you have any naked pictures of yourself? You wanna buy some?

Joe,

Not for nothing, but, you know what? YOU are IMHO one of the worst offenders.

You jump in on every fight and add your snark. You perpetuate the bickering at almost every opportunity.

Don't anyone get me wrong, I don't disagree with Bondguy's assessment that there is a lot of air that could/should be let out of this forum. There are lots of threads that I (personally) don't even bother with. The Rookies and Trainees and the What's up at Firms folders are vast wastelands of Edward D Jones bashing and bickering.

Prospecting isn't a float my boat folder in that I prospect in my own way and for my own purposes (which I've described before).  It seems to have become the unofficial "Annuities: Yes or No?" folder. Once you've said your piece, what's the point?

If the powers that be won't do anything about the travesty that those folders have become how can anyone expect any of the rest of the folders to be any better?

There is another internet corralary(?) that applies in this case: The more dramatic the exit, the more likely it is that the poster will be back. It's sorta like the arsonist that can't help but be there when the fire trucks arrive.

Bondguy, we already have one of these guys  http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/royals.htm

and one is more than enough AND you don't pass the "Holy Grail" test of King... "Must be a king!" "How do you know?" "He don't got sh@ all over him!"

 Great discussion. Interesting that some owners of name equity here would argue to squelch this type of free debate.

[quote=Whomitmayconcer]

Joe,

Not for nothing, but, you know what? YOU are IMHO one of the worst offenders.

You jump in on every fight and add your snark. You perpetuate the bickering at almost every opportunity.

[quote=bondguysdog]

 Great discussion. Interesting that some owners of name equity here would argue to squelch this type of free debate.

It still amazes me how pathetic some people lives must be... To have nothing to do all day but to disrupt an internet forum... To place thought into ways to waste time and bring a semblance of joy to their useless lives by inciting other people needlessly...

Pathetic.

If you have faith in the power of ideas, you can believe that Bond Guy is being held hostage by his dog.

"Then again whomit, I have never gone down in a big flame war with a fellow poster and ended up being banned.   "

This is a lie. I'm sorry that I didn't take the time to address it as such when you first floated it,, but I wanted to move the discussion off of me and so I let the lie lay.

I was never banned for a flame war. I got banned because I was making remarks to a poster that had the name "Sexylady" and my remarkes were deemed to be too sexually flirtatious in nature. The poster named SexyLady was tossed, and I got tossed as collateral damage.

Meanwhile, my only intent was to diffuse a flame war wherein you (among others) couldn't seem to just let it go. There are plenty topics that go unanswered here. Lots of people get ignored, but you and your friends (of which I'm willing to remember BondGuy was one, but I could well be mistaken) kept going at SL again and again. If she were ignored/ and or treated with a tad of courtesy, she would have left long ago. 

That's why I say that it is (IMHO most) often you and "the usual gang of idiots" (As the writers of Mad Magazine have always referred to themselves) who create the circus atmosphere, and then you complain when the place stinks like elephant dung! 

[quote=Bobby Hull][quote=babbling looney]

[quote=ChrisB]This board needs a moderator.  End of story.  I really can't believe there isn't already a mod here.   [/quote]

I hate to say it, but I agree with you. We need a moderator to get rid of the trolls...you know who you are!!

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Babs, do you have any naked pictures of yourself? You wanna buy some?

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Why, yes I do. Thanks for asking.  My husband however has the market cornered, so to speak, in that area.

Just doing my part to elevate the tone of discussion here

Whomit I think “lie” is a somewhat inflammatory term but I appreciate hearing your side of the story.  I would also argue that some of your prior posts were pretty over the top.  No offense intended.

You have a point.  It is  illogical and counterproductive to spend my time flaming trolls when others with legitimate concerns/questions/issues are ignored.  A waste of my time, as well.

When I think back on some of SL’s inane, provocative posts, I am not sure that I agree that she was deserving of a “tad of courtesy”, at least not beyond that minimum level of civility that any human(or board visitor) should expect.  Regardless, it would have probably been far more effective to ignore her posts after an initial attempt to politely reply.  After all, what trolls crave is attention.

Thanks again for your thoughts.

One of the most wide open forums on the net use to be bikeforums.net. You think the Lance Armstrong wannabes are obnoxious on the road? Try going on a forum with them! Finally, after years of having new members driven away by bad behavior the moderators looked at their wallets and realized it had to stop. They needed new member money. The moderators stepped in and started booting people. The money thing finally outweighed the entertainment value of watching Noobs get their heads handed to them for asking which comfort bike to buy. Thus bikeforums transformed from a forum masquerading as a an informational site, to the what is now the Go-to site on the web for bicycle information. The same thing just happened on P-net. There's a message there that the moderators here haven't gotten yet.

Fact is this forum is what we make it. It can be the Go-to informational site on the web or it can continue to be what it is.

Now on to some specific responses:

BGsdog- You are an articulate person. That tells me something good about you. You probably have much positive to contribute. I'd appreciate it if you would do so under a different screen name.

Whomit - I had a hard time following your posts under your previous ID. My reading comprehension is still challenged under your new ID. I'm still trying to figure out where I said the Rutgers BB team had to toughen up? That's because I never said or implied it, not that it matters. Maybe my posts challenge your reading comprehension as well? I guess that makes us even.

BH - You are another guy who seems somewhat misdirected. Your posts are mix of good content and inappropriate content. Sometimes on the same thread.

Goforbroke - You can hang out anywhere on the web. If you're not an advisor or candidate to become one, why here?

I too have been on this forum for a long time. I changed my screen name last year to preserve my anonymity. I've taken plenty of punches here and coming of age in a tough big city board room did plenty to toughen my skin. So this isn't about my ability to take what's being thrown out here. I can dish back with the best of them. And Put was the best. This is about the senseless moronic behavior that drives the good contributors away. There's nothing wrong with a spirited debate, a difference of opinion, or even some good natured ribbing. Not to mention not to mention putting the smack down to obvious trolls like the Suze lady. But thread after thread goes down the tubes with same senseless BS. If the moderators, who apparently don't pay much attention, won't stop it, it's up to us.

What I'm saying here is I've had enough. I'm tired of it. I don't need to come here to have someone call me a liar over $154,000 of production. I don't need to come here to have someone disingenuously tell me that they parodied my screen name out of respect.

You don't have to like me. You don't have to believe me, just don't call me a liar. And don't make a joke out of the good I try to do here. It's that simple.

All of you are smart people. We could use brain power to make this a great place.

One final note, it's tax time. Everyone here make all the money they wanted to make this past year? If not, you all work in a 100% commission business, why are you wasting time here?

"Imus - Wrong for what he said. However, that what he said is spoken and accepted on the streets in every city in the country by ordinary people speaks to the societal issues facing not only blacks but our entire society as a whole. It's become cool to "Go Ghetto" , the word "Ho", demeaning to black women, has entered the general vernacular and that's a problem." Bondguy<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

Yeah, they say it everyday, so even though Imus was wrong, it's just the way that it is.

"Lyrics like "Piss on a Ho" are OK, no Sharpton, no outrage. Yet Imus is racially insensative[sic]. If that's not a double standard nothing is." Bondguy

What are they getting so upset about anyway? They got no right to be upset and Sharpton has no right to speak out for them because.. because... because....

You did nothing but add fuel to a fire. Even if it was not your INTENT to say they ought to just have toughened up it was the net result of your contribution. By distracting the focus away from what was said and insisting that the issue was about who was complaining about what was said you net subtracted from the progress that could have been made.

Ya know? Imus didn't think he was doing anything wrong at the time either. But now we know better. Don't we?

Further, try to be less literal. The point was that you were all animated on the Imus issue and then you went all aslather when someone poked a little fun your way. Talk about making yourself a victim! Someone calls BS on your first year production numbers and you act like he called your wife a nappy headed ho. He was wrong (far as we know). You have to admit, it's a very rare number for a first year broker (especially these days) and you know it or you wouldn't have mentioned it in the first place (and you'd have rounded it to 150 or 155)! You feel the need to wave it (the bloodied dressings from your insult injury) around like it's some red badge of courage from a flame war ambush? Grow up!

It is these juvenile temper tantrums that tend to poison the well. It’s when some tries to hoist themselves into a leadership position that they often wind up ahoist their own petard. Lead by example not by “spokesmanship!”

Your posts don't challenge my reading comprehension, and generally, if they would, I would give you the courtesy of asking you what you meant to say. (I would not do so over in the Imas[sic] thread because I didn't want to perpetuate that inanity.) Instead you let your solipsistic attitude tell you that it's not worth the loss of internet luster to engage someone in discussion, if you're not telling the world "what it is" then "it" must not be very important anyway! 

For those looking for a place to have at it, here http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/forum/viewforum.php?f=4&amp ;sid=7ed7cdd2354b5b6b21e6d5200edbad7d is a forum by the guy who did the cataloging of the typical “Netizens” and Flame Warriors.  Looks like a fun spot that is welcoming of  just that sort of shenaniganery.

I just noticed that Who... has almost 300 posts.  WTF?  If someone who isn't a rep but just wants to give us her unwanted 2 cents 300 times no wonder some of the genuinely experienced and helpful people are leaving the board.

Nothing personal Who...., but really, haven't you had enough fun being a nusiance here?  Isn't there someone else you could annoy? 

I don't care for the way Bobby does business, or Put's condecending middle management attitude, but at least they had some experience to contribute.

Thanks.

[quote=Whomitmayconcer]

Joe,

Not for nothing, but, you know what? YOU are IMHO one of the worst offenders.

You jump in on every fight and add your snark. You perpetuate the bickering at almost every opportunity.

Don't anyone get me wrong, I don't disagree with Bondguy's assessment that there is a lot of air that could/should be let out of this forum. There are lots of threads that I (personally) don't even bother with. The Rookies and Trainees and the What's up at Firms folders are vast wastelands of Edward D Jones bashing and bickering.

Prospecting isn't a float my boat folder in that I prospect in my own way and for my own purposes (which I've described before).  It seems to have become the unofficial "Annuities: Yes or No?" folder. Once you've said your piece, what's the point?

If the powers that be won't do anything about the travesty that those folders have become how can anyone expect any of the rest of the folders to be any better?

There is another internet corralary(?) that applies in this case: The more dramatic the exit, the more likely it is that the poster will be back. It's sorta like the arsonist that can't help but be there when the fire trucks arrive.

Bondguy, we already have one of these guys  http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/royals.htm

and one is more than enough AND you don't pass the "Holy Grail" test of King... "Must be a king!" "How do you know?" "He don't got sh@ all over him!"

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Here's why I'm here:  I like to read whomit's posts (he's my favorite) and maybe ocassionally post here.  I do not troll or interfere with topics that I feel I can't participate in. I did like to read former planrcoach's posts, bondguy and jodabrker...and hey, I'm convinced that bh isn't joe... and I even like to ready bh's posts, too when he's not purposely being a basher or smart ass.  It's too bad that bondguy and joeydabrkr want a rep only site:  have the moderators make it one!...until then, I'll post here. and I'll logon here if i so choose.  Thak u very much.  And sorry you feel that way joe.  I'm sorry that I offended you and sorry that you want to impede my rights.  I"ll go away where you are concerned.  Please don't respond to my posts and I won't respond to yours.  Deal. 

[quote=BondGuy]

One of the most wide open forums on the net use to be bikeforums.net. You think the Lance Armstrong wannabes are obnoxious on the road? Try going on a forum with them! Finally, after years of having new members driven away by bad behavior the moderators looked at their wallets and realized it had to stop. They needed new member money. The moderators stepped in and started booting people. The money thing finally outweighed the entertainment value of watching Noobs get their heads handed to them for asking which comfort bike to buy. Thus bikeforums transformed from a forum masquerading as a an informational site, to the what is now the Go-to site on the web for bicycle information. The same thing just happened on P-net. There's a message there that the moderators here haven't gotten yet.

Fact is this forum is what we make it. It can be the Go-to informational site on the web or it can continue to be what it is.

Now on to some specific responses:

BGsdog- You are an articulate person. That tells me something good about you. You probably have much positive to contribute. I'd appreciate it if you would do so under a different screen name.

Whomit - I had a hard time following your posts under your previous ID. My reading comprehension is still challenged under your new ID. I'm still trying to figure out where I said the Rutgers BB team had to toughen up? That's because I never said or implied it, not that it matters. Maybe my posts challenge your reading comprehension as well? I guess that makes us even.

BH - You are another guy who seems somewhat misdirected. Your posts are mix of good content and inappropriate content. Sometimes on the same thread.

Goforbroke - You can hang out anywhere on the web. If you're not an advisor or candidate to become one, why here?

I too have been on this forum for a long time. I changed my screen name last year to preserve my anonymity. I've taken plenty of punches here and coming of age in a tough big city board room did plenty to toughen my skin. So this isn't about my ability to take what's being thrown out here. I can dish back with the best of them. And Put was the best. This is about the senseless moronic behavior that drives the good contributors away. There's nothing wrong with a spirited debate, a difference of opinion, or even some good natured ribbing. Not to mention not to mention putting the smack down to obvious trolls like the Suze lady. But thread after thread goes down the tubes with same senseless BS. If the moderators, who apparently don't pay much attention, won't stop it, it's up to us.

What I'm saying here is I've had enough. I'm tired of it. I don't need to come here to have someone call me a liar over $154,000 of production. I don't need to come here to have someone disingenuously tell me that they parodied my screen name out of respect.

You don't have to like me. You don't have to believe me, just don't call me a liar. And don't make a joke out of the good I try to do here. It's that simple.

All of you are smart people. We could use brain power to make this a great place.

One final note, it's tax time. Everyone here make all the money they wanted to make this past year? If not, you all work in a 100% commission business, why are you wasting time here?

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I told you guys he'd be back.

Isn’t he cute.  Of course he isn’t joedabrkr.

[quote=EDJ4now]

I just noticed that Who... has almost 300 posts.  WTF?  If someone who isn't a rep but just wants to give us her unwanted 2 cents 300 times no wonder some of the genuinely experienced and helpful people are leaving the board.

Nothing personal Who...., but really, haven't you had enough fun being a nusiance here?  Isn't there someone else you could annoy? 

I don't care for the way Bobby does business, or Put's condecending middle management attitude, but at least they had some experience to contribute.

Thanks.

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Excuse you EDJ4Now, I have over twenty years of investment management experience and 30+ years of sales experience.

I've forgotten more than you'll ever know about trading stocks and bonds.

You want some advice? Here's some advice! The best way to avoid making mistakes is experience. The only way to get experience is to have made mistakes.

You now have made the mistake of thinking I was someone else. Hopefully this experience will  come to mind as you learn to connect brains before engaging tongue!

 I like to read whomit's posts (he's my favorite)

Of course you do.  One sock puppet talking to the other.

oh is that why?  I really didn’t know: I just thought it was because he writes well, he’s articulate, kool vocab and he seems to win just about every single debate including the one with mike buttler.  He’s not overly brutal to others either: live and let live attitude from what I can tell. 

[quote=goforbroke][quote=Whomitmayconcer]

Joe,

Not for nothing, but, you know what? YOU are IMHO one of the worst offenders.

You jump in on every fight and add your snark. You perpetuate the bickering at almost every opportunity.

Don't anyone get me wrong, I don't disagree with Bondguy's assessment that there is a lot of air that could/should be let out of this forum. There are lots of threads that I (personally) don't even bother with. The Rookies and Trainees and the What's up at Firms folders are vast wastelands of Edward D Jones bashing and bickering.

Prospecting isn't a float my boat folder in that I prospect in my own way and for my own purposes (which I've described before).  It seems to have become the unofficial "Annuities: Yes or No?" folder. Once you've said your piece, what's the point?

If the powers that be won't do anything about the travesty that those folders have become how can anyone expect any of the rest of the folders to be any better?

There is another internet corralary(?) that applies in this case: The more dramatic the exit, the more likely it is that the poster will be back. It's sorta like the arsonist that can't help but be there when the fire trucks arrive.

Bondguy, we already have one of these guys  http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/royals.htm

and one is more than enough AND you don't pass the "Holy Grail" test of King... "Must be a king!" "How do you know?" "He don't got sh@ all over him!"

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Here's why I'm here:  I like to read whomit's posts (he's my favorite) and maybe ocassionally post here.  I do not troll or interfere with topics that I feel I can't participate in. I did like to read former planrcoach's posts, bondguy and jodabrker...and hey, I'm convinced that bh isn't joe... and I even like to ready bh's posts, too when he's not purposely being a basher or smart ass.  It's too bad that bondguy and joeydabrkr want a rep only site:  have the moderators make it one!...until then, I'll post here. and I'll logon here if i so choose.  Thak u very much.  And sorry you feel that way joe.  I'm sorry that I offended you and sorry that you want to impede my rights.  I"ll go away where you are concerned.  Please don't respond to my posts and I won't respond to yours.  Deal. 

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It's extremely arrogant and self-centered of you to continue to post on a site called "registered rep. broker forums", if you are not a registered rep. We can't get rid of you, but we can think of you as a selfish POS.

on second thought, you're not very cute. 

Write to your local moderator and ask them to close the forum and more than likely they will band you because of your bashing ways, too.  Right back at you: takes one to know one.

[quote=goforbroke]

on second thought, you're not very cute. 

Write to your local moderator and ask them to close the forum and more than likely they will band you because of your bashing ways, too.  Right back at you: takes one to know one.

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Your presence here has no impact on my life, other than the fact that when I see you post I say to myself, "what a POS." That's really about it.

oh, I'm so hurt, you bad man, you.

It must be doing more than that if you're taking time to respond.

Bully Bobby Hull

[quote=Whomitmayconcer]

"Imus - Wrong for what he said. However, that what he said is spoken and accepted on the streets in every city in the country by ordinary people speaks to the societal issues facing not only blacks but our entire society as a whole. It's become cool to "Go Ghetto" , the word "Ho", demeaning to black women, has entered the general vernacular and that's a problem." Bondguy<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

Yeah, they say it everyday, so even though Imus was wrong, it's just the way that it is.

You do have a reading comprehension problem. Reread what I wrote until this message is clear: That Imus thought this was Ok to say was because the word Ho is accepted on the street. He believed that the general acceptance of the word gave him license to use it. Clearly, not so. Yet the tragedy for the black community as a whole is that it is accepted on the street and in rapp music and that's a PROBLEM! It is so accepted in the ghetto that it has become accepted throughout society and that's a PROBLEM!

"Lyrics like "Piss on a Ho" are OK, no Sharpton, no outrage. Yet Imus is racially insensative[sic]. If that's not a double standard nothing is." Bondguy

What are they getting so upset about anyway? They got no right to be upset and Sharpton has no right to speak out for them because.. because... because....

Out of context, nicely done. Only speaking to the double standard here. CBS fires Imus but continues to play far more demeaning music on its radio stations. They (who ever They are) have every right to be upset. But be upset at the bigger problem. Clear?

And that Sharpton shouldn't speak.

You did nothing but add fuel to a fire. Even if it was not your INTENT to say they ought to just have toughened up it was the net result of your contribution. By distracting the focus away from what was said and insisting that the issue was about who was complaining about what was said you net subtracted from the progress that could have been made.

And what progress would that be? Again with the comprehension issues. My point is and was noone should be saying these things about black woman or any woman for that matter. That Sharpton and Jackson jumped on Imus was clearly opportunist race baiting. Which is their usual calling card..

Ya know? Imus didn't think he was doing anything wrong at the time either. But now we know better. Don't we?

Already hit this one. Are the black hip hop artist wrong too? Of course they are. That was my point, which somehow you missed.

Further, try to be less literal. The point was that you were all animated on the Imus issue and then you went all aslather when someone poked a little fun your way. Talk about making yourself a victim! Someone calls BS on your first year production numbers and you act like he called your wife a nappy headed ho. He was wrong (far as we know). You have to admit, it's a very rare number for a first year broker (especially these days) and you know it or you wouldn't have mentioned it in the first place (and you'd have rounded it to 150 or 155)!

Yeah, I could have rounded it but, the number was $154,000. Ask me what I did in year 4 and I couldn't tell you, but I remember year one.

I didn't realize that $154,000 was going to raise such a problem. Maybe, where you are from it's a big number, but for me, within my realm of experience, it's not. It was second or third quintile number at the time. Now my second year things got better. However, I'll give you this, it was different time. It was easier then IMO to get a fast start. Hard, with a high dropout rate, but maybe not as hard for large volume cold callers like myself.

When someone calls me a liar it does insult me. More so when its thrown out to discredit something I've said to try to help someone. Does not liking someone calling me a liar make me a victim? In your book yes. In my book it only makes me human.

You feel the need to wave it (the bloodied dressings from your insult injury) around like it's some red badge of courage from a flame war ambush? Grow up!

It is these juvenile temper tantrums that tend to poison the well. It’s when some tries to hoist themselves into a leadership position that they often wind up ahoist their own petard. Lead by example not by “spokesmanship!”

If you'd like we can take a poll here to see what the group thinks of that.

Your posts don't challenge my reading comprehension, and generally, if they would, I would give you the courtesy of asking you what you meant to say. (I would not do so over in the Imas[sic] thread because I didn't want to perpetuate that inanity.)

Yet you've clubbed me over the head with your complete misreading of my Imus posts, their content as well as intent. Is that the courtesy you speak of?

 Instead you let your solipsistic attitude tell you that it's not worth the loss of internet luster to engage someone in discussion, if you're not telling the world "what it is" then "it" must not be very important anyway! 

Good job, you lost me here. I am politely asking you to restate this using only one and two syllable words written at a sixth grade level so I can understand it. Note the courtesy.

For those looking for a place to have at it, here http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/forum/viewforum.php?f=4&amp ; ;sid=7ed7cdd2354b5b6b21e6d5200edbad7d is a forum by the guy who did the cataloging of the typical “Netizens” and Flame Warriors.  Looks like a fun spot that is welcoming of  just that sort of shenaniganery.

"Reread what I wrote until this message is clear:"

No need. I don't know how you grew up but, one thing I learned when I was a lad was that condensed milk didn't taste all that much like milk, but that doesn't mean it's not. I condensed the essence of what your speaking said. It doesn't taste like it did when you uttered it but it's basically what it boiled down to.

I'm not going to get into your twisted game of comparative, situational ethical "standards" (yes, you ought to recognize that those are mutually exclusive terms and that is exactly why they were placed together so you can see the fault of your "logic" when you apply them. Yes I know you are saying that you are arguing against situational ethics, but you are applying them in your own argument.) I'm not interested in having a discussion about Imus, Sharpton Jackson or Rutgers. The point was made for illustrative purposes, it was a valid point but focusing on it only serves to take the spotlight off the bigger point which is that you are overreacting.

Does not liking someone calling me a liar make me a victim?

No, but whining about it three weeks later certainly makes you appear as someone claiming victim status. And claiming that status in the very thread where one of the subtexts is victims, victimization and the victim class, and another subtext is hypocrisy and then you not seeing the hypocrisy of your own victimification is more ironic than a truckload of Geritol!

"I didn't realize that $154,000 was going to raise such a problem. Maybe, where you are from it's a big number, but for me, within my realm of experience, it's not."

If you might remember, I was right there saying that it was a very doable number. It's impressive, but I had no doubt that you could have done it.

The issue is not the number, the issue is you wrapping yourself in the swaddling cloth of your own righteous indignation that someone could actually doubt you. That you are so personally involved with electrons flashing on a screen that you can let someone's ungracious speech mean so much... Maybe a few weeks off is a good idea, for you.

As to your altruism...

The guy asked, "I am wondering what average production for an advisor in their first year is. Any idea?"

And you said: "That's a great question. Hopefully some recent trainees will step forward with their first year numbers. My first year was 23 years ago, or was it 24? My first year production was $154,000. Second year was $300,000+. I started with a small firm with only 101 trainees in the training program. By the end of year two I was the number two trainee in the firm. So my numbers were higher than average.

I can't relate my numbers to today's business, however I can tell you this:..."

That helped the guy how? It didn't answer his question, it just gave you an opportunity to whip it out and say "Ain't that a peach?" He asked what the average guy was doing today, not what you did 23 years ago.

"If you'd like we can take a poll here to see what the group thinks of that."

Go ahead Bette Davis take a poll!

"Yet you've clubbed me over the head with your complete misreading of my Imus posts, their content as well as intent. Is that the courtesy you speak of? "

Ahh, poor baby seal! I didn't misread it and if you're going to take a pole I think you know which one I'd suggest you start with!

"Good job, you lost me here. I am politely asking you to restate this using only one and two syllable words written at a sixth grade level so I can understand it. Note the courtesy."

The base of Solipsistic is Soli, solo, sole, one, soul, I. Solipsistic is essentially egocentrism (centered on one's own ego). You stated that you don't understand what I write, and yet, you don't ask me to explain. I've read many of your posts and they all seem to have one common denominator, they all start and end with YOU. They don't probe and they don't absorb, they lecture. This is why I say they are ego centric. You are not here for dialog, you are here to profess. You are here to declare that this is "what it is" if "it" isn't something that you said, then "it" isn't important to you (not important enough for you to ask for clarification).

"Reread what I wrote until this message is clear:..."

No, you reread what I wrote and what you wrote until YOU see that that your actions speak louder than your words.

kool comeback: whomit never disappoints.

Sillohette:

See, you should have gotten the screen name "whomit'sdog" -- he wouldn't have minded (much).    (Next time, take into account the 'great'

interpersonal skills of some of the people on this site.  Where else would someone give a compliment to the moderators and then get bashed?)

"You did nothing but add fuel to a fire. Even if it was not your INTENT to say they ought to just have toughened up it was the net result of your contribution. By distracting the focus away from what was said and insisting that the issue was about who was complaining about what was said you net subtracted from the progress that could have been made."Whom

"And what progress would that be? Again with the comprehension issues. My point is and was noone should be saying these things about black woman or any woman for that matter. That Sharpton and Jackson jumped on Imus was clearly opportunist race baiting. Which is their usual calling card.. " Bond, Guy Bond

<?:NAMESPACE PREFIX = O />This is the same thing as these forums. You are only able to control one thing, and that's you.

You cannot control Al Sharpton, just like he could not control the guy who ran into Freddies. You can only control how much attention YOU heap upon the guy. Stop biting the race bait and the race bait will go away.

You cannot control who posts here, you can only control how you interact with all posters. How much attention are you going to heap on guys that really don't control anything about you?

Maybe, if posters see more give and take and spirited interaction between adult professionals, they'll act like adult professionals too.

Certainly, these forums have taken on a air of absolutism (and not the good Absolut, either) because that's all there is here "This firm is best" "That firm is worst." "Only thieves sell this product." "Only fees are honest" everything has come down to a quasi religious fervency, Indy v. Wire v. RIA.!

I've identified it as "If 'A' is not equal to 'B' then 'B' equals 'NotA' logic!"

In my humble opinion, absolutism ought to be shunned. Absolutism is for Rookies and trainees only. They NEED to have faith until they have knowledge, then they should only have a faith that is honed by the search for truth. But that's years down the pike for them. Otherwise, if your business paradigm and your corporate mythology fits your ethos then, that's what's right for you. I don't care what firm it is.

I don't care if you're in a bolier room or if you're sitting on suede and pitching pension funds and endowments. If you as a client of your firm are reflective of your firm's personality (as we say, eventually, your book reflects your personality) then you're in the right place for you. Good for you!

If I were looking to sit down and hammer out a code of behavior for these forums, that's where I'd start, Absolutists who aren't rookies should be shunned (but positively).

i.e. absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[quote=goforbroke]

on second thought, you’re not very cute. 

Write to your local moderator and ask them to close the forum and more than likely they will band you because of your bashing ways, too.  Right back at you: takes one to know one.

[quote=Whomitmayconcer]

Joe,

Not for nothing, but, you know what? YOU are IMHO one of the worst offenders.

You jump in on every fight and add your snark. You perpetuate the bickering at almost every opportunity.

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how true.

All you have to do is prove what I said is wrong.

I'm encouraging females to enter the career field: they can be successful.  What do they have to lose especially if they already have a lower level job. Maybe their math score isn't as good as males but their other skills more than compensate. 

IF you notice me giving out WRONG advice, all you have to do is correct me and if I disagree, I'll say so.  You really want this to be a closed site, don't you?  you're begging and pleading with the mods to band me and make it a closed site.   move on. 

You have a bad case of Suze envy and you really need to get some help for this.

I don't plan on posting that much. I just like reading some poster's posts.  He's a kool dude.    

now go away and quit working yourself up like this.  CALM down and take a chilll pill. 

that's where I'd start, Absolutists who aren't rookies should be shunned (but positively).

I absolutly agree with you.   On the other hand, isn't this somewhat of an absolutist position you are taking?  Hmmm. 

Yeah,,, welll ermmm uhh noooo uuhhhh kinda.

There's enough wiggle room there in that "Shunning" is sort of a "Non binding resolutionary" sort of an action.

There are things I'm absolutely for and absolutely against at the same time... I'm absolutely for smelling nice around the office and absolutely against smelling out loud.

I'm absolutely for arguing your case, and absolutely against being absolutely convinced that you're right (no matter what!).

I'm absolutely for people seing that I'm brilliant and absolutely against anyone taking my word instead of thinking for theirself (as if!).

I'm absolutely against Absolut! What they did to Michel Roux(?) was the crime of two centuries! That's why I never buy Absolut and would instead buy Stoli's... except that there are lots of new brands that don't taste either and cost less (true story, the other day I bought Poland Spring lite Vodka! The reason it was so cheap was that they watered down the vodka with Poland Spring brand water.)

[quote=Whomitmayconcer]

"Reread what I wrote until this message is clear:"

No need. I don't know how you grew up but, one thing I learned when I was a lad was that condensed milk didn't taste all that much like milk, but that doesn't mean it's not. I condensed the essence of what your speaking said. It doesn't taste like it did when you uttered it but it's basically what it boiled down to.

I'm not going to get into your twisted game of comparative, situational ethical "standards" (yes, you ought to recognize that those are mutually exclusive terms and that is exactly why they were placed together so you can see the fault of your "logic" when you apply them. Yes I know you are saying that you are arguing against situational ethics, but you are applying them in your own argument.) I'm not interested in having a discussion about Imus, Sharpton Jackson or Rutgers. The point was made for illustrative purposes, it was a valid point but focusing on it only serves to take the spotlight off the bigger point which is that you are overreacting.

Does not liking someone calling me a liar make me a victim?

No, but whining about it three weeks later certainly makes you appear as someone claiming victim status. And claiming that status in the very thread where one of the subtexts is victims, victimization and the victim class, and another subtext is hypocrisy and then you not seeing the hypocrisy of your own victimification is more ironic than a truckload of Geritol!

"I didn't realize that $154,000 was going to raise such a problem. Maybe, where you are from it's a big number, but for me, within my realm of experience, it's not."

If you might remember, I was right there saying that it was a very doable number. It's impressive, but I had no doubt that you could have done it.

The issue is not the number, the issue is you wrapping yourself in the swaddling cloth of your own righteous indignation that someone could actually doubt you. That you are so personally involved with electrons flashing on a screen that you can let someone's ungracious speech mean so much... Maybe a few weeks off is a good idea, for you.

As to your altruism...

The guy asked, "I am wondering what average production for an advisor in their first year is. Any idea?"

And you said: "That's a great question. Hopefully some recent trainees will step forward with their first year numbers. My first year was 23 years ago, or was it 24? My first year production was $154,000. Second year was $300,000+. I started with a small firm with only 101 trainees in the training program. By the end of year two I was the number two trainee in the firm. So my numbers were higher than average.

I can't relate my numbers to today's business, however I can tell you this:..."

That helped the guy how? It didn't answer his question, it just gave you an opportunity to whip it out and say "Ain't that a peach?" He asked what the average guy was doing today, not what you did 23 years ago.

"If you'd like we can take a poll here to see what the group thinks of that."

Go ahead Bette Davis take a poll!

"Yet you've clubbed me over the head with your complete misreading of my Imus posts, their content as well as intent. Is that the courtesy you speak of? "

Ahh, poor baby seal! I didn't misread it and if you're going to take a pole I think you know which one I'd suggest you start with!

"Good job, you lost me here. I am politely asking you to restate this using only one and two syllable words written at a sixth grade level so I can understand it. Note the courtesy."

The base of Solipsistic is Soli, solo, sole, one, soul, I. Solipsistic is essentially egocentrism (centered on one's own ego). You stated that you don't understand what I write, and yet, you don't ask me to explain. I've read many of your posts and they all seem to have one common denominator, they all start and end with YOU. They don't probe and they don't absorb, they lecture. This is why I say they are ego centric. You are not here for dialog, you are here to profess. You are here to declare that this is "what it is" if "it" isn't something that you said, then "it" isn't important to you (not important enough for you to ask for clarification).

"Reread what I wrote until this message is clear:..."

No, you reread what I wrote and what you wrote until YOU see that that your actions speak louder than your words.

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WOW! I'm impressed! That you would go to such time and trouble to respond tells me that you really care or that I got under your skin and you can't practice what you preach.

I want to thank you for you definition of the solipsistic. As entertaining as it was to read, more entertaining to me is your assumption that I didn't know what it meant. Even your use of it as an adjective rather than the more common use as a noun didn't throw me. It was the convoluted sentence that came after that I was having trouble wrapping my mind around. However, I was puzzled that you capitalized solipsistic. I'm far from being the grammer police, being a drop out of the "Just Spell No" 12 step program, but I don't think that's right. Assuming that the word solipsistic was what I meant when I said you lost me, again the reading comprehension thing. Perhaps that you immediately assumed your vocabulary was better than mine points to your own solipsistic tendancies?

Whomit, I wish I could come back with example after example of your posts to  impune your good name as you've attempted to do with my post. The truth is, I don't read most of your stuff. You're just not on the list of people I seek out on this forum. The talking in circles and constant metaphors. I just don't have time. So usually I pass on your posts.

I leave you the last word.

I am politely asking you to restate this using only one and two syllable words written at a sixth grade level so I can understand it.

I think you have a writing comprehension issue. Forget reading comprehension!

"That you would go to such time and trouble to respond tells me that you really care or that I got under your skin and you can't practice what you preach."

I do care and I do practice what I preach. What I preach is adult interaction, communication. I DO think that you are an asset to this community. But that doesn't mean I shouldn't call you out when you're throwing a temper tantrum. 

As to passing by my posts, well then just keep in mind that I know alot more about you than you know about me. Your loss, my gain.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/solipsistic

BTW, solipsistic? Adjective. Sorry.

Perhaps they didn't go over suffixes until seventh grade?

" I wish I could come back with example after example of your posts to  impune your good name as you've attempted to do with my post."

Victim, victim, victim. What a drama queen!

[quote=Whomitmayconcer]

I am politely asking you to restate this using only one and two syllable words written at a sixth grade level so I can understand it.

I think you have a writing comprehension issue. Forget reading comprehension!

"That you would go to such time and trouble to respond tells me that you really care or that I got under your skin and you can't practice what you preach."

I do care and I do practice what I preach. What I preach is adult interaction, communication. I DO think that you are an asset to this community. But that doesn't mean I shouldn't call you out when you're throwing a temper tantrum. 

As to passing by my posts, well then just keep in mind that I know alot more about you than you know about me. Your loss, my gain.

Joe,

I can dig that...But.. what I don't quite understand is why you chose this particular post to highlight the issue.

The Bond guy tripped over his own foot in that he was the one who said "use only one and two syllable words" and then acted the vic by saying that I had just jumped to some pedantic, elitist conclusion by explaining what the mulitsyllabic word meant (which I normally assumed he would have understood in the first place or else I wouldn't have used it. That he whined that I must have thought he was vocabularally challenged when I defined it for him, shows again that he waves the victim flag in that he could just as easily have assumed that I assumed he was literate enough to understand the words.) 

Do I try too hard? Sometimes. I like to challenge myself. I don't know about you but I've been having these same conversations for nearly a decade now. I've known guys that can just spit out the same words in the same order a thousand times. Me, I hate saying the same thing twice (even though I do enjoy quoting myself, but I've gotten over that.)

I never know exactly where it's going to go, like the "Condensed milk" analogy, I didn't know at the begining that "uttered" was going to be there, nor did I realize that "what it boils down to" was coming. That's the fun of writing, if you don't have fun, what's the point?

"I'm all for elevating the level of our discourse, but if people can't understand what you're trying to say it doesn't matter how profound the thought may be."

That's the art of conversation, making a statment that allows others to make comment and or ask for clarification. That's how the level of discourse gets raised, by intelligent, interesting and interested people trading related commentary; it's the difference between conversing and pontificating.

Key words:  "allow others to make comment".  It's called FREEDOM of speech ...and you don't control this board. 

I'm also glad whomit isn't joedatroublemakr. 

I understood and comprehended this perfectly:

Joe,

Not for nothing, but, you know what? YOU are IMHO one of the worst offenders.

You jump in on every fight and add your snark. You perpetuate the bickering at almost every opportunity.

what I don't quite understand is why you chose this particular post to highlight the issue

If it weren't this post/thread it would have to be another since you post in almost every thread.

That's the art of conversation, making a statment that allows others to make comment and or ask for clarification. That's how the level of discourse gets raised, by intelligent, interesting and interested people trading related commentary; it's the difference between conversing and pontificating.

You understand this on one level. I would like to see you practice it.  It seems that you post to show how much smarter you are than the rest of us schlubs. You would rather lecture than converse (at least that's how I see it)  Pontificating to inflate your own ego and refusing to address in a respectful manner the thoughts and opinions of those who disagree with you is not conversation or elevating the "discourse".  It is just so much hot air.

That's how the level of discourse gets raised, by intelligent, interesting and interested people trading related commentary; it's the difference between conversing and pontificating.

It is all about raising the level of conversation, which is a continuous process, not unlike the financial planning process itself. More recently, to quote from earlier in this thread:

the parody is not personal, rather, about the apparent ego that screen names aquire over time.

So, Bond Guy, maybe you irritate but mostly you are respectable, but it was never about your individual ego, rather, you are an important player who can help lead the ascent.

Don’t hate him 'cause he’s smarter than the rest of you.  At least he does bother to post here and he doesn’t attack someone just because they posted (don’t have to have his approval to post here whether you be a brokr or not); he might attack because of WHAT they post.

But if he does attack, it's just to elicit some intelligent, adult dialog as he did with mike butler and now with bond guy.

He flirts rather nice, too... but me thinks he is just an exhibitionist (a public "showoff"), if you will. 

[quote=goforbroke]

But if he does attack, it's just to elicit some intelligent, adult dialog as he did with mike butler and now with bond guy.

He flirts rather nice, too... but me thinks he is just an exhibitionist (a public "showoff"), if you will. 

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Of course you do. I'm not surprised since I strongly suspect you are both sharing the same sock puppets.

Wow: I can see why you feel intimidated by whomit being so smart/clever: you seem to have space and measurement challenges like two full sized adults can fit into a "sock"... that's a good one.  The man could be 300 pounds and balding, wear supersized socks, live 5 states away but on a computer screen...I find him rather smart and yeah, sexy.  Got a problem with that babs. 

Cuse me, I need to run off to the gym, my sock is just a little too tight these days.

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I find him rather smart and yeah, sexy.  Got a problem with that babs

Actually, yes. You make me want to puke.  Seriously, (if you can be serious) how warped, desperate and socially handicapped does one have to be to find their own alter ego a sexual attraction.  If you aren't the same person with multiple personalities crapping all over this forum, then I strongly suggest you get out more and get some therapy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_sock_puppet

That's it.  Done with lunch. Gonna go make some money.

"If it weren't this post/thread it would have to be another since you post in almost every thread"

That's not true. I generally don't comment in many of the Rookies and Trainees forums, Nor do I spend a lot of time in What's up at firms (mostly because both of those folders are preoccupied with ED Jones topics). Not to say I never post there, but I'm relatively rare there.

I post in the election thread when I have something to say. I made an observation or two over in Imas[sic] and I'm certainly here, but that doesn't constitute almost every thread by any stretch of the imagination.

"You understand this on one level. I would like to see you practice it."

Which is what I just finished saying is what I do. I write in a style that allows for multiple observations.

This is not always a good thing, that's for sure (see, now this is one of those places where I'm interjecting a place wherefrom conversations can grow) in that it sometimes means that someone might take something that I've said and run away with it in a direction I don't want to go. This happens often especially if the "Victim" wants to deflect attention from the overarching theme. In the case of this thread, Bondguy  wanted to run with the Imus issue and never once dealt with the fact that what was being said was "You're overreacting."

Notice that he didn't answer the question of how he helped the guy by bragging about his own first year numbers. Instead he went on about capitalization.

" It seems that you post to show how much smarter you are than the rest of us schlubs.'

Do you really think that I think that you think I'm smarter than the rest of you schlubs? How stupid do you think I am?

I just treat you like intelligent adults, that's all, no more, no less. If you are intimidated, I'm sorry, it's not my intention to intimidate anybody (unless, of course, we're debating in which case, bets are off).

"You would rather lecture than converse (at least that's how I see it)"

Did you expect me to respond to your post? If you did then you expected me to converse. If you didn't then who is lecturing whom?

This is some sort of a logical trapdoor. I'm damned if I respond and damned if I don't respond. Well, I respond.  

"Pontificating to inflate your own ego and refusing to address in a respectful manner the thoughts and opinions of those who disagree with you is not conversation or elevating the 'discourse'."

You are right! Good thing I don't do that. My ego is plenty inflated enough by the wonderfullness that is me, I don't need to pump it up by pontification.

I do indeed address in a respectful manner the thoughts and opinions blah blah blah... But I reserve the right to hold fast to my opinions. I reserve the right to choose which questions I answer and which rhetorical dark alleys I stay out of. I reserve the right to call as I see it and give at least as good as I get (it's not my fault that some people just aren't as good at this as they would like to be. It's not my fault that I respond to someone's ball peen hammer with a wrecking ball, they'd hit me with a wrecking ball if they could, but the best they got is a ball peen hammer.)

You, for example made sport of my absolutism post, and I responded by making even more fun of it. So please don't say that I don't work towards conversation. It's just not true.

[quote=Whomitmayconcer]

I am politely asking you to restate this using only one and two syllable words written at a sixth grade level so I can understand it.

What it meant was keep it simple. I didn't want to have to dig out my dictionary, thesaurus, and secret decoder to read another five word answer stretched to 100 words wrapped in a metaphor orbiting an analogy. Sooner or later we've all got to do some gross.

I think you have a writing comprehension issue. Forget reading comprehension!

"That you would go to such time and trouble to respond tells me that you really care or that I got under your skin and you can't practice what you preach."

I do care and I do practice what I preach. What I preach is adult interaction, communication. I DO think that you are an asset to this community. But that doesn't mean I shouldn't call you out when you're throwing a temper tantrum. 

First, you may preach adult communication, but you fail miserably at communicating. And for a guy who preaches a "let it be brotha, it's only the internet" attitude you've gone to extradinary measures to explain and defend yourself here. You let nothing pass. You're down to name calling.

As to passing by my posts, well then just keep in mind that I know alot more about you than you know about me. Your loss, my gain.

More like lost time.

As for not answering the question why would I? You think $154K is all the production in the world. You believe I was bragging by bringing it up. Which I gotta tell ya, is pathetic. But here I'll give you an example of me bragging: I own a $400,000 motorhome. Now that's me bragging. Me making $60,000= not bragging. I own a $400,000 motorhome=me bragging. See the difference?

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I find him rather smart and yeah, sexy.  Got a problem with that babs

Actually, yes. You make me want to puke.  Seriously, (if you can be serious) how warped, desperate and socially handicapped does one have to be to find their own alter ego a sexual attraction.  If you aren't the same person with multiple personalities crapping all over this forum, then I strongly suggest you get out more and get some therapy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_sock_puppet

That's it.  Done with lunch. Gonna go make some money.

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I thought a sock puppet was something an adolescent boy made a mess in and had to hide from his mom. I'm not kidding. I didn't realize that it was what a lot of the kids do on this board.

[quote=Bobby Hull][quote=babbling looney]

I find him rather smart and yeah, sexy.  Got a problem with that babs

Actually, yes. You make me want to puke.  Seriously, (if you can be serious) how warped, desperate and socially handicapped does one have to be to find their own alter ego a sexual attraction.  If you aren't the same person with multiple personalities crapping all over this forum, then I strongly suggest you get out more and get some therapy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_sock_puppet

That's it.  Done with lunch. Gonna go make some money.

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I thought a sock puppet was something an adolescent boy made a mess in and had to hide from his mom. I'm not kidding. I didn't realize that it was what a lot of the kids do on this board.

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Me too. Thanks babs, very enlightening.

"I thought a sock puppet was something an adolescent boy made a mess in and had to hide from his mom. I'm not kidding. I didn't realize that it was what a lot of the kids do on this board."

Hey Bobby, you must go through a lot of 6-packs of socks eh? Dont really feel like wearing 'em after a pleasant night by your lonesome...

I can just imagine it... BH out on the town at some dive bar in Southside Chicago, trolling to take home some overweight divorced pig with 9 teeth missing. Buying her Pabst Blue to get her nice and in the mood... AHHH. You truly are living the High Life... (the predictable mother comment is probably gonna come along in about 3... 2... 1... seconds...)...

Again, I'm damned if I answer and I'm damned if I don't.

I answer and I'm accused of not communicating.

Ok!

For the fourth time... It's not about the production number itself (with me anyway) the question was How did your revealing it help that guy?

You are always saying "I'm here to give back.' "I'm here to help the rookies" and yet, you did not. I don't really care how much you did, but your ACTION spoke louder than your WORDS.

You said 'gee great question and maybe other rookies will step up and answer' and then you put up a number that would have scared most average rookies from sharing.

And please, stop with the false modesty, you know that you considered it to be an above average number because you said you were number two in your training class. The top 2 percentile is not the average. I'm not wowed by the number, but if I was a rookie bustin my ass and doing $80M in my frosh year I'd certainly not want to put it up against your $150M.

So what did you action do? Did it help the rookie? No.

Maybe, he looked at it and said, "Wow, you can do a lot!" and maybe he looked at it and said "Gee, here I was thinking my 100M was pretty good..."

"I didn't want to have to dig out my dictionary, thesaurus,..."

Which way do you want it Bondguy? That you understood what I assumed you would or that you needed to go to the dictionary?

You're talking in circles. 

"You're down to name calling."

"I DO think that you are an asset to this community."

Gee, I'm sorry. I didn't think that you'd be offended.

But seriously, guy. You DO claim victim status and you do play the drama queen role. I just point it out so you know that I'm not just calling you names, I'm highlighting a behavior pattern the proof is in how many times you do it.

That's the best brag you got? A $400,000 motorhome? Dude, check out my summer home.

http://www.headbeach.com/cgi-bin/viewer.cgi?cabin=AbsPlace&a mp;show=7

Here's a view from across the inlet across the street.

http://www.headbeach.com/cgi-bin/viewer.cgi?cabin=Branch4&am p;show=6

That's it over to the top left

http://www.headbeach.com/cgi-bin/viewer.cgi?cabin=HighView&a mp;show=4

I know it's not as exciting as cruisin' the nation's trailer parks.

Look, we shouldn't be fighting. I respect who you are and what you do. I'm glad you're here to give the newbies encouragement, that way I don't feel so guilty about not doing so.

You don't want to read my posts, don't. No skin off my back.

[quote=blarmston]

"I thought a sock puppet was something an adolescent boy made a mess in and had to hide from his mom. I'm not kidding. I didn't realize that it was what a lot of the kids do on this board."

Hey Bobby, you must go through a lot of 6-packs of socks eh? Dont really feel like wearing 'em after a pleasant night by your lonesome...

I can just imagine it... BH out on the town at some dive bar in Southside Chicago, trolling to take home some overweight divorced pig with 9 teeth missing. Buying her Pabst Blue to get her nice and in the mood... AHHH. You truly are living the High Life... (the predictable mother comment is probably gonna come along in about 3... 2... 1... seconds...)...

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I just stand them up in the corner when I'm done with them.

[quote=Whomitmayconcer]

Again, I'm damned if I answer and I'm damned if I don't.

I answer and I'm accused of not communicating.

Ok!

For the fourth time... It's not about the production number itself (with me anyway) the question was How did your revealing it help that guy?

You are always saying "I'm here to give back.' "I'm here to help the rookies" and yet, you did not. I don't really care how much you did, but your ACTION spoke louder than your WORDS.

You said 'gee great question and maybe other rookies will step up and answer' and then you put up a number that would have scared most average rookies from sharing.

And please, stop with the false modesty, you know that you considered it to be an above average number because you said you were number two in your training class. The top 2 percentile is not the average. I'm not wowed by the number, but if I was a rookie bustin my ass and doing $80M in my frosh year I'd certainly not want to put it up against your $150M.

So what did you action do? Did it help the rookie? No.

Maybe, he looked at it and said, "Wow, you can do a lot!" and maybe he looked at it and said "Gee, here I was thinking my 100M was pretty good..."

"I didn't want to have to dig out my dictionary, thesaurus,..."

Which way do you want it Bondguy? That you understood what I assumed you would or that you needed to go to the dictionary?

You're talking in circles. 

"You're down to name calling."

"I DO think that you are an asset to this community."

Gee, I'm sorry. I didn't think that you'd be offended.

But seriously, guy. You DO claim victim status and you do play the drama queen role. I just point it out so you know that I'm not just calling you names, I'm highlighting a behavior pattern the proof is in how many times you do it.

That's the best brag you got? A $400,000 motorhome? Dude, check out my summer home.

http://www.headbeach.com/cgi-bin/viewer.cgi?cabin=AbsPlace&a mp;a mp;show=7

Here's a view from across the inlet across the street.

http://www.headbeach.com/cgi-bin/viewer.cgi?cabin=Branch4&am p;am p;show=6

That's it over to the top left

http://www.headbeach.com/cgi-bin/viewer.cgi?cabin=HighView&a mp;a mp;show=4

I know it's not as exciting as cruisin' the nation's trailer parks.

Look, we shouldn't be fighting. I respect who you are and what you do. I'm glad you're here to give the newbies encouragement, that way I don't feel so guilty about not doing so.

You don't want to read my posts, don't. No skin off my back.

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I could be real happy having your place to hang out at.

[quote=Bobby Hull][quote=babbling looney]

I find him rather smart and yeah, sexy.  Got a problem with that babs

Actually, yes. You make me want to puke.  Seriously, (if you can be serious) how warped, desperate and socially handicapped does one have to be to find their own alter ego a sexual attraction.  If you aren't the same person with multiple personalities crapping all over this forum, then I strongly suggest you get out more and get some therapy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_sock_puppet

That's it.  Done with lunch. Gonna go make some money.

[/quote]

I thought a sock puppet was something an adolescent boy made a mess in and had to hide from his mom. I'm not kidding. I didn't realize that it was what a lot of the kids do on this board.

[/quote]

LOL... I guess it can be that too. 

[quote=Whomitmayconcer]

Again, I'm damned if I answer and I'm damned if I don't.

I answer and I'm accused of not communicating.

Ok!

For the fourth time... It's not about the production number itself (with me anyway) the question was How did your revealing it help that guy?

I framed my answer as I did to give it historical context, ie your results may vary. However that said, a buck fifty isn't the stratosphere for rookies these days. A few years back one of the rookies in my office did a hair over 300K in his first year. Currently we have a rookie in her third year moving nicely through the mid two's. My wife, who started ten years ago did about 175k her first year. (note the rounding). As I said I was above average from my second year on. First year, not so hot relative to my peer group. My peer group is a group of friends I've had since the beginning. Every one of these people out produces me and I produce a lot. My freinds have taught me to be humble. There was no ego in my answer. In my group I'm the piker. So, from my POV, in answering the kid's question, I was helping, nothing more should have been read into it. My POV is that 150 first year is very very doable.

And as far as ego goes, this is a tough biz. Maybe the group should allow some chest thumping. Everyone of us could have taken the safe weekly check route. Yet, we didn't. There should be nothing wrong with sharing success stories.

You are always saying "I'm here to give back.' "I'm here to help the rookies" and yet, you did not. I don't really care how much you did, but your ACTION spoke louder than your WORDS.

You said 'gee great question and maybe other rookies will step up and answer' and then you put up a number that would have scared most average rookies from sharing.

And please, stop with the false modesty, you know that you considered it to be an above average number because you said you were number two in your training class. The top 2 percentile is not the average. I'm not wowed by the number, but if I was a rookie bustin my ass and doing $80M in my frosh year I'd certainly not want to put it up against your $150M.

If you only do 80k your first year find something else to do or really step it up in year two. Again 150 not impossible. Just my opinion based on what i see from trainees over recent years, as well as my own experience coming up.

So what did you action do? Did it help the rookie? No.

Not for either of us to say. Only the rookie can answer that question. With sales, we both know that success breeds success. Here's an interesting tidbit. A few months ago my wife wrote a million dollar annuity. It was the first million dollar annuity this office had seen in years. She got a big atta boy at the next sales meeting. Since then the office has done about a half dozen of these big ticket annuities. Sometimes you only need show that it can be done. Same goes for my answer to the rookie. 150 and much more can be done in the first year, but first you gotta believe it can be done. Or to put it another way, if I can do it, so can you.

Maybe, he looked at it and said, "Wow, you can do a lot!" and maybe he looked at it and said "Gee, here I was thinking my 100M was pretty good..."

"I didn't want to have to dig out my dictionary, thesaurus,..."

Which way do you want it Bondguy? That you understood what I assumed you would or that you needed to go to the dictionary?

You're talking in circles. 

"You're down to name calling."

"I DO think that you are an asset to this community."

Gee, I'm sorry. I didn't think that you'd be offended.

But seriously, guy. You DO claim victim status and you do play the drama queen role. I just point it out so you know that I'm not just calling you names, I'm highlighting a behavior pattern the proof is in how many times you do it.

Last thing I am is a victim. We both know that.

That's the best brag you got? A $400,000 motorhome? Dude, check out my summer home.

Actually, far from it. However, Homer the motorhome is already a known to long time readers of this forum. I figured I'd get a pass on it or at least the benefit of a doubt from the success police on the overt show of wealth by using it( a known) to make my point. As for my best brag: Skippy the Scooter, a 2003 Honda Reflex scooter. Good fun in the city.

I'm 55, does dude apply. My kids call me old guy. I can still kick their butts on a bicycle though. old guy dosn't bother me. Facts are facts. I'd rather be over the hill than buried beneath it.

http://www.headbeach.com/cgi-bin/viewer.cgi?cabin=AbsPlace&a mp;a mp;show=7

Here's a view from across the inlet across the street.

http://www.headbeach.com/cgi-bin/viewer.cgi?cabin=Branch4&am p;am p;show=6

That's it over to the top left

http://www.headbeach.com/cgi-bin/viewer.cgi?cabin=HighView&a mp;a mp;show=4

I know it's not as exciting as cruisin' the nation's trailer parks.

Look, we shouldn't be fighting. I respect who you are and what you do. I'm glad you're here to give the newbies encouragement, that way I don't feel so guilty about not doing so.

You don't want to read my posts, don't. No skin off my back.

You take a cheap shot and then try to make nice?

Ok, if you're extending the olive branch lets call it a flame war over and done..

Wow…I’ve been gone a few hours and everything gets nuts!

I’m not sure I can even figure out who the houses belong to, but nice pictures either way.  I think they are BG’s.

When exactly did the motorhome become part of the conversation?

Wow: talk about a joke of the missing sock!  I pity his mother:

(You put one pair of socks in the dryer...but only one comes out.) In her case...hope you only had one sock to put in the dryer!  yuck!
Hopefully he had the decency to just throw the sock away.  And judging by probablity of lack of a girlfriend due to the indication he also had such a lackluster personality then--probably thought he could get a date by insulting a gal...I'm sure he messed up a few socks.  Yuck!

Back to the duel at hand (how this topic changed from Imus is beyond me).

I couldn't bring up the pics on my laptop; however, seems that whom is also bragging..about his summer home and surely he wouldn't want to give this much info on an anonymous site...no doubt found a good real estate site (oneupmanship on the motor home).  Topic got way off course and turned into a "my d*k is bigger than yours"...of course, I'm sure both of yours are bigger than mine.

Bondguy:  When it comes down to it, your dog is still proud of you: so that’s all that matters.

Speaking of dogs, Bond Guy is back, the ending is happy. Bobby said he would be back, so I guess Bobby knows the future. A lone cowboy rides into the sunset, knowing God is in heaven, the creatures are content, the future of our industry secured for another day…

lovely handle: hope it's not related to brokebackmountain.

I like BigRockCandyMountain.

"creatures are content????  ... will the sheep be safe?

“Oh hon-look over there.  The trolls and the sock puppets are playing so nicely together.  Isn’t it cuuuuuuute?”

sorry...you had a bad day...you were in a hurry this am and wore your "stickee" stocks today.  Talk about smelly, spermy feet! 

Hmmm, maybe that's how those guys invented the yellow 'stickees'.  (stickee sock...stickey paper...hmmm, can't write a note on my socks...paper would work...yeah, and thus, the idea for yellow stickees was born.

I had no idea that guys were so close to their 'socks'. 

Hon...I'm packing for my trip.... where's my socks!

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Back to the duel at hand (how this topic changed from Imus is beyond me).

I couldn't bring up the pics on my laptop; however, seems that whom is also bragging..about his summer home and surely he wouldn't want to give this much info on an anonymous site...no doubt found a good real estate site (oneupmanship on the motor home).  Topic got way off course and turned into a "my d*k is bigger than yours"...of course, I'm sure both of yours are bigger than mine.

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His house is modest and comfortable with beautiful scenery. It doesn't appear to be much of a financial burden to him, making it that much more enjoyable.

[quote=joedabrkr]When exactly did the motorhome become part of the conversation? [/quote]

Joe, I'll save you some reading time. I brought up the motorhome to make a point. The thread has taken a predictable turn since. As I said to whomit in another rely I felt bringing up the motrhome was safe in that I've mentioned it(not it's cost) on the this forum before. Also, most non motorhome owners don't know one of these things from another and generally look down on them thus giving me a sense of security in posting. But I did break the golden rule, I mentioned its cost. Thus whomit posted the pixs of the house to one up me.

 Agree, that it looks like a nice place.

Being that we are in a money business maybe some show of success and wealth wouldn't be such a bad thing. Show that all the hard work is worth the effort. That anyone starting today can someday buy the house in the picture, or a 40 foot motorhome, fast cars, airplanes, or peace of mind. Whatever floats your boat. And you have the money to float that boat if that's what you want. We all work hard for the green.

"I just stand them up in the corner when I'm done with them."

That's awesome. You just got a lot cooler in my book.

Why is that–must be master of his own domain, too?  Did he give you some ideas on how to organize your sock?  

Sorry for using this particular thread but

Hey, Bondguy! Now there's a way to find out how you are doing in you dog's eyes! http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/24/science/24wag.html

Hmmmm…Measuring the angle of a dog’s tail relative to the plane of it’s

ass.



And you thought your job sucked…

 LOL!

Good one!